When will Micheal Richards stop apologizing?

darkcrow

i cant believe people are making such a big deal about this. it is quite laughable when people like al sharpton (it could have been jesse jackson) called for a boycotte on season 7 of seinfeld...

*waiting to be jumped*

Leatherman®

Abuskedti wrote:

That statement was not similar in my opinion

Not similar in terms of hate-filled, but racial none the less. Flip the script and have a white commentator say that line and you better believe he's fired or suspended. In our over-pursuit of PC we neglect the reverse racism that is all around us. Just think of things we have around us that are crazy, especially if it were reversed. Black colleges, Black Entertainment Television. Now I know there are many unspoken white only establishments, but could you imagine if they went so far as to name them as white only?

What Richards did was heinous and we should all learn from it, but I'm sort of tired of the one way street. If it's wrong, it's wrong.

Uncle Leo

Leatherman® wrote:

Black colleges,

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but there are not really "black colleges." Yes, I know of Grambling State and Howard, but these are "traditionally black colleges" dating back to when the powers that be were not so big on integration.

These universities have remained traditionally black because very few non-blacks ever apply. Would you want to go to one? "PC" liberal that I am, I admit that I would not have wanted to be in the minority on that campus (though I may have known what it felt like for some of the black students at "traditionally white" University of Wisconsin).

bostonlou

I heard some of the KKKramer interview with Jesse Jackson

when asked if he ever used the N word before he had like a 3 second pause before he got to NO

and the rest of it sounded like he was reading from a piece of paper or half asleep

he needs to just say he was on crack or something... enough apologizing

soulsinging

Uncle Leo wrote:

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but there are not really "black colleges." Yes, I know of Grambling State and Howard, but these are "traditionally black colleges" dating back to when the powers that be were not so big on integration.

These universities have remained traditionally black because very few non-blacks ever apply. Would you want to go to one? "PC" liberal that I am, I admit that I would not have wanted to be in the minority on that campus (though I may have known what it felt like for some of the black students at "traditionally white" University of Wisconsin).

no chance in hell would i have gone. this is the hypocrisy underlying much of this kid-glove PC nonsense. it's like in the days of bussing for integration. people were a-ok with bussing black kids out to their suburban schools, but talk about bussing their kid into the city and they suddenly shut up. mention voucher programs and they scream about how we should give inner city schools adequate funding, but talk about taking some of their tax money to even the playing field and suddenly it's a bad idea.

we're all racist to some extent. i can pretty much guarantee that any white person tearing michael richards a new one would be shitting their pants if they were down in harlem late at night.

bostonlou

Leatherman® wrote:

My question is why does this get tons of press, but a well-known x-NFL star and current broadcaster says similar racist remarks and goes virtually unnoticed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2677581

Jimmy the Greek would also like to know

Collin

soulsinging wrote:

we're all racist to some extent. i can pretty much guarantee that any white person tearing michael richards a new one would be shitting their pants if they were down in harlem late at night.

Nope, we got some dirty looks and some funny looks and a guy claiming I broke his sandwich (very very funny), but most people were cool, quite a lot of friendly people as well. Maybe we were lucky.

VictoryGin

soulsinging wrote:

we're all racist to some extent. i can pretty much guarantee that any white person tearing michael richards a new one would be shitting their pants if they were down in harlem late at night.

i don't know anyone who is scared of harlem at night. especially my friends who live there. have you been lately?

rebornFixer

soulsinging wrote:

i can pretty much guarantee that any white person tearing michael richards a new one would be shitting their pants if they were down in harlem late at night.

That's not racism... That's realism. Who is so PC that they are dumb enough to have absolutely no fear in a dangerous neighborhood?

VictoryGin

reborncareerist wrote:

That's not racism... That's realism. Who is so PC that they are dumb enough to have absolutely no fear in a dangerous neighborhood?

christ, if you think harlem is dangerous, i'd hate to see you in bed-stuy, south bronx, or east new york.

have any of you been to harlem lately?

Skitch Patterson

VictoryGin wrote:

christ, if you think harlem is dangerous, i'd hate to see you in bed-stuy, south bronx, or east new york.

have any of you been to harlem lately?

I dominate Rucker Park.

VictoryGin

Skitch Patterson wrote:

I dominate Rucker Park.

ha, i always knew you were hiding something of that caliber.

for those unlike skitch here, who haven't been in harlem lately, i'd thought i'd share this interesting tidbit:

The crime rate in Harlem in 2005 was comparable to that in wealthy neighborhoods in other American cities, such as Santa Monica, California.[41][42]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem

this was a great article too:
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0238,little,38429,1.html

Klein

It's not so much the words Michael Richards used that are shocking. I mean let's face it, we've heard every insult in the book through music, literature and film.
What IS VERY scary about his rant is the violence and anger in his voice and the way in which he was jumping around stage like a crazy animal! To have Michael Irvin slip with a joke that wasn't funny, does not even compare to the intensity that Kramer had.
I truly believed every word that came out of his mouth, and that's what is scary. I get the impression that if he had a gun in his hand in a closed room with no witnesses that he would have shot these two guys.

Maybe a bit extreme, but you get my point.
He seemed possessed.

Klein

cincybearcat

VictoryGin wrote:

ha, i always knew you were hiding something of that caliber.

for those unlike skitch here, who haven't been in harlem lately, i'd thought i'd share this interesting tidbit:

The crime rate in Harlem in 2005 was comparable to that in wealthy neighborhoods in other American cities, such as Santa Monica, California.[41][42]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem

this was a great article too:
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0238,little,38429,1.html

Interesting...I'm wondering if the types of crimes are roughly the same as well.

Vedderlution_Baby

I have a question.


For libs- If O'reilly had gone off on this tirade, would you still feel like a second chance needs to be given?


For Cons- If Moore had gone off on this tirade, would you still feel like a second chance needs to be given?


Or is Richards getting a free pass because he palyed Cosmo in Seinfeld?
If this was someone that you guys didnt watch on a regular basis, and therefore have grown to love, would you guys still feel the same way?

jlew24asu

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I have a question.


For libs- If O'reilly had gone off on this tirade, would you still feel like a second chance needs to be given?


For Cons- If Moore had gone off on this tirade, would you still feel like a second chance needs to be given?


Or is Richards getting a free pass because he palyed Cosmo in Seinfeld?
If this was someone that you guys didnt watch on a regular basis, and therefore have grown to love, would you guys still feel the same way?

doesnt matter. if oreilly, moore, or richards have asked for forgiveness and tried to reach out to the african american community then they would all deserve a chance.

I dont think richards got a free pass at all. he career is probably over.

inmytree

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I have a question.


For libs- If O'reilly had gone off on this tirade, would you still feel like a second chance needs to be given?


For Cons- If Moore had gone off on this tirade, would you still feel like a second chance needs to be given?


Or is Richards getting a free pass because he palyed Cosmo in Seinfeld?
If this was someone that you guys didnt watch on a regular basis, and therefore have grown to love, would you guys still feel the same way?

um....in your opinion, what should happen to Richards...? you seem to feel strongly about his outburst...I wonder, what should be done...?

should he go to jail, or pay out money, or be voted off the island...?

VictoryGin

cincybearcat wrote:

Interesting...I'm wondering if the types of crimes are roughly the same as well.

yes they are. i looked at the sources cited in the link and santa monica's stats on an 88,406 population are, in one year:

4 murders
21 rapes
241 robberies
285 aggravated assaults
http://santamonica.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm

this document shows harlem pop figures, but the nabe is divided up on this sheet, but just counting central harlem has 107,109 + east harlem has 117,743 (there's well over twice the pop with just those two pieces alone):
http://www.demographia.com/db-nyc-wardrank.htm

you get these figures for harlem:
9 murder
37 rape
397 robbery
340 fel assault
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/pdf/chfdept/cs032pct.pdf

it just pisses me off because it can appear that, when people don't know what they're talking about, that certain neighborhoods are more dangerous perhaps because of the race of the population. While Harlem had quite some problems in the past, this isn't 1982.

Vedderlution_Baby

inmytree wrote:

um....in your opinion, what should happen to Richards...? you seem to feel strongly about his outburst...I wonder, what should be done...?

should he go to jail, or pay out money, or be voted off the island...?

I've already discussed what I will do. Same thing I did with Gibson. I won't watch anything with him in it nor purchase anything that has him in it. What's wrong with my question?

inmytree

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I've already discussed what I will do. Same thing I did with Gibson. I won't watch anything with him in it nor purchase anything that has him in it. What's wrong with my question?

sorry, I missed that...

you are talking about what you are personally doing, which is fine, and I support that...however, do you think it's ok for others to continue to watch Senfield and Braveheart...?

as for you question about "second chances"...I think almost everyone deserves a second chance....those who don't are murders and child molestors...

Jesse Jackson has recieved a second chance or two...do you support that...?