GEEZUS!!!! :mad: I'd be ropable if I were you guys! Have you contacted 10C about it? It's not good enough :( It'd be bad enough for an 'every day' piece of merch, but this is a Ltd collectors item!
I was so relieved when my ITW vinyl arrived in perfect condition, after hearing of a few people in Aus; receiving damaged one's.
I'm not a whinger....but no way would I be accepting such a special book in any less than pristine condition.
Glad they've finally arrived on your shores though
mine arrived yesterday YAY and, although it's okay, the slipcover has wee dings in two corners, i thought the shipping was more expensive because they'd double-boxed it or something...but no. this, however, is my ONLY complaint.
it's the most beautiful book i own...in fact, it's the most beautiful book i've ever seen. it's stunning. i'm so pleased to have it! and i was REALLY pleased to see jeff describe a poster i own (and i only have 3 ames posters) as 'the grail of pearl jam posters' - fuckin a.
Are you going to do anything about it? I didn't even think about doing anything when my ITW arrived with rips in the sleeve. I knew there was no point, but this book cost me over $300. My guess is they'd get us to send it back ($50 shipping) and then refund I suppose. I'd rather have the book less than perfect than not at all.
I'd rather have the book less than perfect than not at all.
Which poster?
exactly, and the dings in mine are tiny. it came a long way. yes, they should have packaged it better but, really, as soon as you rip that shrink wrapping off it's not 'brand new' anymore and i could easily put dings in it myself at some point. certainly hasn't affected my enjoyment of the book, it's not enough to affect the value, and i'm not about to bother firing off a shitty email to 10c because they should have sprung for another layer of cardboard. i'm just not that grumpy about it.
the no code istanbul 'mosquito' poster. great to discover he did the whole thing in rubylith, i've been staring at it for years and marvelling at how beautifully handmade it looks...and now i know how much sweat went into it - it really IS handmade. it's fab.
I hear what you're saying and I didn't mean for you send them an abusive e-mail....nothing of the sort.....I just feel that they need to know. As far as they know they're doing it all properly and everyone is getting their items in good nic. If they don't know they're doing something wrong, in this case - insufficient packaging of a very special and expensive item, they aren't going to ammend the problem in future. We all pay top postage down here, so it should be sent accordingly.
I also hear you when you say, that no doubt you'll end up putting a few dings in it yourself....that's fine and yes it is a second hand item as soon as you open it, but you didn't purchase a second hand item so it shouldn't be in second hand condition before you even open it.
nice rant:) i haven't bothered to read the related threads, but i suspect they already know that the packaging wasn't quite robust enough. i used to send out thousands of books every day as part of my job, it's tricky if you don't know what you're doing. tell ya what, next time they publish a book (pj autobiography, anyone?) i'll send them a letter offering them my services!
god, i really do love this book tho. i love it more than my benaroya vinyl.
nice rant:) i haven't bothered to read the related threads, but i suspect they already know that the packaging wasn't quite robust enough. i used to send out thousands of books every day as part of my job, it's tricky if you don't know what you're doing. tell ya what, next time they publish a book (pj autobiography, anyone?) i'll send them a letter offering them my services!
god, i really do love this book tho. i love it more than my benaroya vinyl.
the no code istanbul 'mosquito' poster. great to discover he did the whole thing in rubylith, i've been staring at it for years and marvelling at how beautifully handmade it looks...and now i know how much sweat went into it - it really IS handmade. it's fab.
Got a pic of it? Been looking on the net for one but have had no luck - I'm interested to know what it looks like...
If i had spare $$ at the moment I definitely would make u an offer or ask what your price is.....
So should I start saving or are u keen to offload quickly...:)
Not keen to offload quickly or even to offload at all! I was just curious how much you'd pay for it. I wouldn't sell it for anything less than the top dollar it's gone for on ebay, probably even more that because I like it so much and it's mine. I suppose I could always rebuy off ebay, but it wouldn't be the same because it wouldn't be the one I bought.
How much would you be willing to pay for one? Less than the ebay price?
Not keen to offload quickly or even to offload at all! I was just curious how much you'd pay for it. I wouldn't sell it for anything less than the top dollar it's gone for on ebay, probably even more that because I like it so much and it's mine. I suppose I could always rebuy off ebay, but it wouldn't be the same because it wouldn't be the one I bought.
How much would you be willing to pay for one? Less than the ebay price?
Ive seen them sell for around 500-600, but then Ive seen them sell around 400-450....
If I had the money I guess somewhere between 450-600.
But being broke at the moment If I saw one for 200 I would have to pass.......Sucks to be broke sometimes....:p
What would be the lowest u would sell it for.....pm me if u dont want to post the amount.......:)
What would your ideal price be?
Ive seen them sell for around 500-600, but then Ive seen them sell around 400-450....
If I had the money I guess somewhere between 450-600.
But being broke at the moment If I saw one for 200 I would have to pass.......Sucks to be broke sometimes....:p
What would be the lowest u would sell it for.....pm me if u dont want to post the amount.......:)
What would your ideal price be?
I just don't want to sell it, so the lowest I would sell it for would have to be at least $600, if you say you've seen it go for that. Of course, things would change if I needed the money but thankfully, as yet, it's not the case.
I just don't want to sell it, so the lowest I would sell it for would have to be at least $600, if you say you've seen it go for that. Of course, things would change if I needed the money but thankfully, as yet, it's not the case.
Yeah I can understand that....I tried buying it when it was released and my computer wouldnt let me purchase it cos of the security software and the way it was set....Had I used another computer in the house it probably wouldve been a different story...
Well Ive been having a lot of success with Lotto so if my numbers come up I might pm u...and of course payment would be more than 600
If u ever do sell, let me know first....Do u play it??
If u ever do sell, let me know first....Do u play it??
hmm, what an amusing conversation youse have been having:)
i've played mine once - i recorded it to minidisc as it was playing so i have listened to it lots - just not played it. which is not to say i never play vinyl coz i do. just not that one.
just got back from womad - neil finn - surprise act - you always wish for something like that to happen at womad, although it is always a weekend full of surprises, pity about the tides, missed out on good 'naki surf. one day ed will turn up with his uke, yeah right.
(if the link doesn't work just search the 96 euro concert chronology til you find istanbul)
funny thing is that i ordered a different poster and got this one. at the time i was running a pj email list called mosquito so it was kinda spooky when it arrived.
(if the link doesn't work just search the 96 euro concert chronology til you find istanbul)
funny thing is that i ordered a different poster and got this one. at the time i was running a pj email list called mosquito so it was kinda spooky when it arrived.
Yeah, that's a cool poster. By the sounds of things the pic doesn't do it justice. Where did you order it from? I guess it was better than the poster you actually ordered, or not? Did they sell that one when they had the big mystery poster sale at 10C? Here's a link to the expressobeans page for it, more pics there. That's an expensive poster. I really want the 95 Asia poster (since I was there but don't remember seeing posters there) and it's a similar price but even if I had the Istanbul I think I'd find it hard to trade away even for that. It's nice.
As for Benaroya, no I don't play it because I don't have a record player anymore. Will I play it? I suppose I probably will. I want to buy a really nice turntable, to do it (and others) justice
I don't get why you'd record it to minidisc? Why not listen to the CD (or copy that to MD?) Not judging, just asking
Hi guys, still looking for Benaroya here too! Got posters and a LOTL vinyl to sweeten the deal if anyone wants to part with one!
Just had an Emek Ben Harper 06 poster I got off ebay arrive today - now thats a sweet poster!
Auck - Feb 28, 98
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
Yeah, that's a cool poster. By the sounds of things the pic doesn't do it justice. Where did you order it from? I guess it was better than the poster you actually ordered, or not? Did they sell that one when they had the big mystery poster sale at 10C? Here's a link to the expressobeans page for it, more pics there. That's an expensive poster. I really want the 95 Asia poster (since I was there but don't remember seeing posters there) and it's a similar price but even if I had the Istanbul I think I'd find it hard to trade away even for that. It's nice.
As for Benaroya, no I don't play it because I don't have a record player anymore. Will I play it? I suppose I probably will. I want to buy a really nice turntable, to do it (and others) justice
I don't get why you'd record it to minidisc? Why not listen to the CD (or copy that to MD?) Not judging, just asking
believe it or not, to me the vinyl sounds better recorded to md than cd. i did the same w/ binaural. and i always do it with the xmas vinyls (of course). i have lots of vinyl on md. and i use my md player a lot, still.
i bought the istanbul poster from 10c in 1996. i ordered 3, 2 of them were not what i ordered, but i don't remember being dissappointed, i think i just figured they'd run out of the ones i wanted, i think they were, like US$12 each +postage.
As for Benaroya, no I don't play it because I don't have a record player anymore. Will I play it? I suppose I probably will. I want to buy a really nice turntable, to do it (and others) justice
I just picked up a Pro-ject Debut 3 - wicked turntable for a reasonable price
Auck - Feb 28, 98
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
Yeah, that's one of the tables I've been looking at. Did you stick with the standard setup?
Yeah I think so? You mean rather than the USB version?
Auck - Feb 28, 98
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
Yeah I think so? You mean rather than the USB version?
They make a USB version? Not a bad idea, but I don't think I'd bother making recordings of my vinyl in that way (I wonder what quality the output is? sampling rate, bit depth etc).
I really meant the standard cartridge and so on. I guess it's the way to go to start with. See if it sounds good before trying to mess with the setup too much.
They make a USB version? Not a bad idea, but I don't think I'd bother making recordings of my vinyl in that way (I wonder what quality the output is? sampling rate, bit depth etc).
I really meant the standard cartridge and so on. I guess it's the way to go to start with. See if it sounds good before trying to mess with the setup too much.
I got the standard version with the Ortofon OM 5E cartridge. Got it from Paul Money
Auck - Feb 28, 98
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
Cool. So it sounds good? No preamp on that one though, right, so did you need to get one?
No pre amp - I've got a phono input on my Yamaha Receiver which works well
Auck - Feb 28, 98
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
No pre amp - I've got a phono input on my Yamaha Receiver which works well
I went down to Eastern Hi Fi at lunch to check it out again. Looks nice, didn't have a listen today though. I gotta say, they've got the Xpression III in there and it looks really nice, but it's $899! :( How much did you get the Debut for?
Did they try to convince you to buy the separate preamp or speed box etc? I guess one can always upgrade to them later. But how to really compare your Yamaha's preamp with an external box without buying it?
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I was so relieved when my ITW vinyl arrived in perfect condition, after hearing of a few people in Aus; receiving damaged one's.
I'm not a whinger....but no way would I be accepting such a special book in any less than pristine condition.
Glad they've finally arrived on your shores though
Which poster?
exactly, and the dings in mine are tiny. it came a long way. yes, they should have packaged it better but, really, as soon as you rip that shrink wrapping off it's not 'brand new' anymore and i could easily put dings in it myself at some point. certainly hasn't affected my enjoyment of the book, it's not enough to affect the value, and i'm not about to bother firing off a shitty email to 10c because they should have sprung for another layer of cardboard. i'm just not that grumpy about it.
the no code istanbul 'mosquito' poster. great to discover he did the whole thing in rubylith, i've been staring at it for years and marvelling at how beautifully handmade it looks...and now i know how much sweat went into it - it really IS handmade. it's fab.
when my ears ring, my heart beats
I also hear you when you say, that no doubt you'll end up putting a few dings in it yourself....that's fine and yes it is a second hand item as soon as you open it, but you didn't purchase a second hand item so it shouldn't be in second hand condition before you even open it.
:eek: Oh ma gawd :eek: Rant over. Sorry bout that
hehe
nice rant:) i haven't bothered to read the related threads, but i suspect they already know that the packaging wasn't quite robust enough. i used to send out thousands of books every day as part of my job, it's tricky if you don't know what you're doing. tell ya what, next time they publish a book (pj autobiography, anyone?) i'll send them a letter offering them my services!
god, i really do love this book tho. i love it more than my benaroya vinyl.
when my ears ring, my heart beats
Wanna sell ya Benaroya Vinyl...??
y'know, i might have to, to pay for the ames book:)
when my ears ring, my heart beats
U serious?
If i had spare $$ at the moment I definitely would make u an offer or ask what your price is.....
So should I start saving or are u keen to offload quickly...:)
How much would you be willing to pay for one? Less than the ebay price?
Ive seen them sell for around 500-600, but then Ive seen them sell around 400-450....
If I had the money I guess somewhere between 450-600.
But being broke at the moment If I saw one for 200 I would have to pass.......Sucks to be broke sometimes....:p
What would be the lowest u would sell it for.....pm me if u dont want to post the amount.......:)
What would your ideal price be?
Yeah I can understand that....I tried buying it when it was released and my computer wouldnt let me purchase it cos of the security software and the way it was set....Had I used another computer in the house it probably wouldve been a different story...
Well Ive been having a lot of success with Lotto so if my numbers come up I might pm u...and of course payment would be more than 600
If u ever do sell, let me know first....Do u play it??
hmm, what an amusing conversation youse have been having:)
i've played mine once - i recorded it to minidisc as it was playing so i have listened to it lots - just not played it. which is not to say i never play vinyl coz i do. just not that one.
just got back from womad - neil finn - surprise act - you always wish for something like that to happen at womad, although it is always a weekend full of surprises, pity about the tides, missed out on good 'naki surf. one day ed will turn up with his uke, yeah right.
when my ears ring, my heart beats
http://www.fivehorizons.com/tour/mem/post-istanbul96.jpg
(if the link doesn't work just search the 96 euro concert chronology til you find istanbul)
funny thing is that i ordered a different poster and got this one. at the time i was running a pj email list called mosquito so it was kinda spooky when it arrived.
when my ears ring, my heart beats
As for Benaroya, no I don't play it because I don't have a record player anymore. Will I play it? I suppose I probably will. I want to buy a really nice turntable, to do it (and others) justice
I don't get why you'd record it to minidisc? Why not listen to the CD (or copy that to MD?) Not judging, just asking
Just had an Emek Ben Harper 06 poster I got off ebay arrive today - now thats a sweet poster!
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
i bought the istanbul poster from 10c in 1996. i ordered 3, 2 of them were not what i ordered, but i don't remember being dissappointed, i think i just figured they'd run out of the ones i wanted, i think they were, like US$12 each +postage.
when my ears ring, my heart beats
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
I really meant the standard cartridge and so on. I guess it's the way to go to start with. See if it sounds good before trying to mess with the setup too much.
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
Syd - Nov 08, 06
West Palm Beach - Jun 11, 08
Tampa - Jun 12, 08
Melb - Nov 20, 09
Syd - Nov 22, 09
Bris - Nov 25, 09
Auck - Nov 27, 09
Christchurch - Nov 29, 09
EV - Bris - Mar 10 & 12, 11
EV - New - Mar 16, 11
EV - Syd - Mar 18, 11
Did they try to convince you to buy the separate preamp or speed box etc? I guess one can always upgrade to them later. But how to really compare your Yamaha's preamp with an external box without buying it?