Columbus area Pearl Jam fan gone missing...

edvedder913

Wow - so sad. I hope they find him one way or another so his family and friends get closure. Scary how someone can disappear like this. I do not understand the friend not willing to answer questions. That makes no sense at all. If anything I would think it would make police more suspicious of him. Esp. since they do not have footage of him leaving the bar.

world

I was just in Columbus a few weekends ago and saw many "Missing" signs. You guys are dedicated. Good Luck. Dont give up.

Ill be praying for him.

harrisonmerwin

i just dont get the fact that he is clearly seen walking into a bar. and then does not come out. is there more doors, with no cameras? does the bar itself not have cameras? it almost frustrates me that such "doors" to answers haven't really been discussed. i only check up on this every couple weeks, but it's such a bug knowing more can be done about this.

Lost In Ohio

harrisonmerwin wrote:

i just dont get the fact that he is clearly seen walking into a bar. and then does not come out. is there more doors, with no cameras? does the bar itself not have cameras? it almost frustrates me that such "doors" to answers haven't really been discussed. i only check up on this every couple weeks, but it's such a bug knowing more can be done about this.

At the time he went missing, there were 3 exits. Two of them were available to the public, and both had cameras. The other was under heavy construction and would have been difficult for an intoxicated person to travel through. It may also have been locked at that late hour.

I assume that the video was scrutinized for things like sudden changes in images or randomly disappearing/appearing cars or other things that would indicate someone pausing the tape. (It might have had a clock display the time on the video, i'm not sure.)

nowayimfaithfull

Still no luck, that sucks.

I hope it eventually works its way out.

crittables

Lost In Ohio wrote:

At the time he went missing, there were 3 exits. Two of them were available to the public, and both had cameras. The other was under heavy construction and would have been difficult for an intoxicated person to travel through. It may also have been locked at that late hour.

I assume that the video was scrutinized for things like sudden changes in images or randomly disappearing/appearing cars or other things that would indicate someone pausing the tape. (It might have had a clock display the time on the video, i'm not sure.)

are you talking about the doors at the top of the escalators? cause they are right by where the bouncer checks ids for the bar. you'd think even if they don't have footage of him, the bouncer might remember seeing him leave that way. cause it's not common for people to not leave down the escalator. you'd think it might stick out in the bouncers mind. oh well, no matter how much i try to analyze this whole thing it's just weird.

phillyfan

first time i read about this,so sorry to hear about it. my prayers and heart go out to the family

Lost In Ohio

crittables wrote:

are you talking about the doors at the top of the escalators? cause they are right by where the bouncer checks ids for the bar. you'd think even if they don't have footage of him, the bouncer might remember seeing him leave that way. cause it's not common for people to not leave down the escalator. you'd think it might stick out in the bouncers mind. oh well, no matter how much i try to analyze this whole thing it's just weird.

Talking from my 1 visit there, and from what i've learned from the media.

When I was there, I went in the door off the sidewalk between the escalators and the faux-Irish pub. Saw the escalators right in front of me, went up them, and the Ugly Tuna was to my right. A movie theater was to my left. A bit further back, there were some doors marked "AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY" or something to that effect.

I saw some pictures of people going up and down the escalators. I assume that's the video camera that is being referenced.

You're right though, it's very confusing that there's no video of him leaving. He was with friends that night. Here's a condensed timeline from an earlier post: If you go to that post, you'll find some references to a guy in an orange sweater. He has since been questioned and did not know anything.

9:30 p.m.: Shaffer goes to Ugly Tuna Saloona, leaves after 30 minutes
1:15 a.m.: Shaffer comes up escalators with Clint and Meredith (Brian Shaffer's friends)
1:55 a.m.: Shaffer is seen standing outside to the right of the bar, at top of escalators, talking to two friends. LAST VIDEO OF SHAFFER ANYWHERE
2:09 a.m.: Clint and Meredith leave without Brian.


Unless, Brian stayed until the bar closed and somehow the cameras were turned off before he left. (Use the restroom, pay a tab, etc.) You'd think that security cameras would be on 24/7. What good is a security camera that is turned off?

sigh eternally

Lost In Ohio wrote:

Talking from my 1 visit there, and from what i've learned from the media.

When I was there, I went in the door off the sidewalk between the escalators and the faux-Irish pub. Saw the escalators right in front of me, went up them, and the Ugly Tuna was to my right. A movie theater was to my left. A bit further back, there were some doors marked "AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY" or something to that effect.

I saw some pictures of people going up and down the escalators. I assume that's the video camera that is being referenced.

You're right though, it's very confusing that there's no video of him leaving. He was with friends that night. Here's a condensed timeline from an earlier post: If you go to that post, you'll find some references to a guy in an orange sweater. He has since been questioned and did not know anything.

9:30 p.m.: Shaffer goes to Ugly Tuna Saloona, leaves after 30 minutes
1:15 a.m.: Shaffer comes up escalators with Clint and Meredith (Brian Shaffer's friends)
1:55 a.m.: Shaffer is seen standing outside to the right of the bar, at top of escalators, talking to two friends. LAST VIDEO OF SHAFFER ANYWHERE
2:09 a.m.: Clint and Meredith leave without Brian.


Unless, Brian stayed until the bar closed and somehow the cameras were turned off before he left. (Use the restroom, pay a tab, etc.) You'd think that security cameras would be on 24/7. What good is a security camera that is turned off?

that whole south campus gateway doesnt seem like a place where one would vanish off the face of the earth, does it? makes no sense.

i'm sick of seeing the flyers of Brian everywhere - still nothing. how long has it been? far too f*ing long.
so sad.

we share the same birthday and year. unnerving.

pickupyourwill

I read this thread from time to time hoping that they've found him or his body. This is such a sad story. I will keep them in my prayers. Its so horrible that these kinds of disappearances happen. I hope they find him.

~~peace and love~~

nowayimfaithfull

pickupyourwill wrote:

I read this thread from time to time hoping that they've found him or his body. This is such a sad story. I will keep them in my prayers. Its so horrible that these kinds of disappearances happen. I hope they find him.

~~peace and love~~

sounds as if he is alive

i cant wait for the recovery story

there are cases like this out there

its so sad

the hard work that you guys are doing and have done is fantastic

keep it up

pickupyourwill

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

sounds as if he is alive

i cant wait for the recovery story

there are cases like this out there

its so sad

the hard work that you guys are doing and have done is fantastic

keep it up

that's great to hear that he may be alive!

Here's another missing person case in Ohio (for 15-yr old Emily Smitley) that I just received as an e-mail this morning:

http://LinkTiles.com/profile_missing.php?i=NCMC1054856

IamMine

pickupyourwill wrote:

Here's another missing person case in Ohio (for 15-yr old Emily Smitley) that I just received as an e-mail this morning:

http://LinkTiles.com/profile_missing.php?i=NCMC1054856

I saw her picture when you posted this and I just clicked on the link again and got this message:



More Missing Children
About LinkTiles

No Longer Missing

Thank-you for inquiring about this child. According to our records, this child is no longer considered missing.

---

That is good news. When I did a search on her name, it listed her as an endangered runaway.

At least she's back home and safe.

Well....you all know what I wished at this moment.

Lost In Ohio

icarus wrote:

i've read this thread a couple of times over the last few months. its really odd nothings happened by now. i'm sorry if this has been talked about before, but what has his friends that were with him that night said about what happened? why did they arrive with him and then leave without him? did he say anything strange to them? have they talked or are they staying silent? i read somewhere one of them refused a lie detector test.

There was a discussion a couple pages back about this. Apparently the one friend doesn't want to undergo a lie detector test, but the other one did.

I also would like to know why they didn't leave with him. Here's what's weird:

9:30 p.m.: Shaffer goes to Ugly Tuna Saloona, leaves after 30 minutes
1:15 a.m.: Shaffer comes up escalators with Clint and Meredith (Brian Shaffer's friends)
1:55 a.m.: Shaffer is seen standing outside to the right of the bar, at top of escalators, talking to two friends. LAST VIDEO OF SHAFFER ANYWHERE
2:09 a.m.: Clint and Meredith leave without Brian.


It doesn't mention him leaving. Either this suggests that the cameras were turned off before he left, which is incredibly stupid on the Gateway's part (South Campus University Gateway is the area where the bar is), or he left through the third exit which was under construction.

If the cameras were turned off, and I hope they weren't, why would they EVER be turned off? Even at 5 AM, they should be on. I'm obviously hoping they weren't turned off, but when all logical explanations seem to run out...

OR there's another back way out of Ugly Tuna by which he left. NOTE - I don't know if there is or not, i'm just throwing ideas out there. Fire code also states that there must be multiple ways out of all public areas. I wonder if Ugly Tuna would have to have two ways out of the actual bar itself.

VEDDERFAN1

well here I am again. I check this post at least once a week hoping to hear good news. I have nothing to share as far as helpful hints, or any knowledge where the poor guy might be. So I just check the site once a week hoping to see some happy news.
Does anyone have a picture of the guy? I would copy it and put a few up around the little town I live in. It is in between Columbus and Cleveland. And I know alot of people that are of college age and may have heard something. Wooster has a big College here and perhaps I could put a few pictures of him around the college. My niece goes there too. It isn't much but it is something I can do and I really would like to help.:):):)
This is such a sad story. :(:(:( Something you just read about in a newspaper somewhere but this time it is so close to home.
And all the PJammers getting together trying to help.
:)God Bless this man and bring him home.:)
:cool:

Lost In Ohio

VEDDERFAN1 wrote:

Does anyone have a picture of the guy

http://www.findbrianshaffer.com/

Go there and print out the poster. Be sure you get permission to hang it up. I know some colleges are icky about what, where, and even for how long you post things.

Thanks for the help!

VEDDERFAN1

Thanks, I made about 1/2 a dozen copies and I will ask my niece to place them around the Wooster College Campus. I will be sure to ask for permission first.

Just let me say this is such a sad story and I am praying so hard for a happy ending.

:cool:

Pearl_Jam_Necklace

I dont know ...the more i read this thread.,..the more i think there's something not right....i mean ...did they ever find the guy in the bright orange sweater? i am sure i missed several pages of this,.not intentionally..but why was he up and down the escalator...so many freaking times...i think i saw or read that a psychic says he is alive but is suffering from amnesia or head injury.... i mean one of my thoughts was when the guy in the orange sweater was outside and the cameras said he appeared to be looking for someone..maybe he was letting someone know that brian would be coming out a different exit ya know like they were gonna rob him or something terrible...the guy in the orange sweater that constantly was up and down into the bar ..makes me think of a drug dealer or someone looking for someone that owed him money or pissed him off or something...who really knows? i pray that somehow the truth comes out for this families peace of mind..or that Brian is found with amnesia somewhere.and ok....i cry everytime i read this thread for Brian's family...for Brian..and i dont know why ..maybe because of the talk of what exit he took...but i always think of the song "Last Exit"...i pray that is not the case!!!!!!!!

PearlJamMan

Pearl_Jam_Necklace wrote:

I dont know ...the more i read this thread.,..the more i think there's something not right....i mean ...did they ever find the guy in the bright orange sweater? i am sure i missed several pages of this,.not intentionally..but why was he up and down the escalator...so many freaking times...i think i saw or read that a psychic says he is alive but is suffering from amnesia or head injury.... i mean one of my thoughts was when the guy in the orange sweater was outside and the cameras said he appeared to be looking for someone..maybe he was letting someone know that brian would be coming out a different exit ya know like they were gonna rob him or something terrible...the guy in the orange sweater that constantly was up and down into the bar ..makes me think of a drug dealer or someone looking for someone that owed him money or pissed him off or something...who really knows? i pray that somehow the truth comes out for this families peace of mind..or that Brian is found with amnesia somewhere.and ok....i cry everytime i read this thread for Brian's family...for Brian..and i dont know why ..maybe because of the talk of what exit he took...but i always think of the song "Last Exit"...i pray that is not the case!!!!!!!!

I have read about it and they have already talked witht he gentleman and he is off the hook, he has a sound alibi and it was nothing more then him looking for his ride home thats why he was up and down and looking around the parking lot...

If anything really gets me its the fact that his friend who was out with him refuses to take a lie detector, maybe its because he feels that its a machine and MAYBE something could go wrong with it and he might be slightly incriminated EVEN IF he really didn't have any hand in it...I really think people dont believe in lie detectors...

I cant understand this whole story of him not being caught on tape leaving the bar, I know there is another exit that leads out of the bar that DOESN'T have a camera on it but police said even a sober person would have trouble leaving that way, its hard to believe a smart guy like him would head that way UNLESS tricked or convinced to help someone and from there bad things happen...otherwise he literally disappeared off the face of the Earth! He HAS to have left out the alternate exit if he is not caught on tape leaving...They have said that it was a slightly dangerous area and if he tried to walk home someting could have happened there...

My opinion for what it is worth after readng all the stories, what police have given to the public etc...I personally believe at 2am when he was seen at the top of the escaltor and then headed back into the bar(last time ever seen) I think at this point he was either lead to believe or hoaxed into going out this OTHER exit, maybe someone acted like they were in trouble, maybe he even just went out that way to see if he could go that way and it was the case of wrong time, wrong place and ran into someone who took advantage of him drinking...You understand what I mean...

He is a smart guy and its very hard to believe that within minutes of being normal on camera talking to 2 girls to then have some mental breakdown or amnesia and never be heard from or at least caught on camera...

I pray I am wrong and my prayers go out to his family and friends but things are looking very suspicous in this case!

Pearl_Jam_Necklace

PearlJamMan wrote:

I have read about it and they have already talked witht he gentleman and he is off the hook, he has a sound alibi and it was nothing more then him looking for his ride home thats why he was up and down and looking around the parking lot...

If anything really gets me its the fact that his friend who was out with him refuses to take a lie detector, maybe its because he feels that its a machine and MAYBE something could go wrong with it and he might be slightly incriminated EVEN IF he really didn't have any hand in it...I really think people dont believe in lie detectors...

I cant understand this whole story of him not being caught on tape leaving the bar, I know there is another exit that leads out of the bar that DOESN'T have a camera on it but police said even a sober person would have trouble leaving that way, its hard to believe a smart guy like him would head that way UNLESS tricked or convinced to help someone and from there bad things happen...otherwise he literally disappeared off the face of the Earth! He HAS to have left out the alternate exit if he is not caught on tape leaving...They have said that it was a slightly dangerous area and if he tried to walk home someting could have happened there...

My opinion for what it is worth after readng all the stories, what police have given to the public etc...I personally believe at 2am when he was seen at the top of the escaltor and then headed back into the bar(last time ever seen) I think at this point he was either lead to believe or hoaxed into going out this OTHER exit, maybe someone acted like they were in trouble, maybe he even just went out that way to see if he could go that way and it was the case of wrong time, wrong place and ran into someone who took advantage of him drinking...You understand what I mean...

He is a smart guy and its very hard to believe that within minutes of being normal on camera talking to 2 girls to then have some mental breakdown or amnesia and never be heard from or at least caught on camera...

I pray I am wrong and my prayers go out to his family and friends but things are looking very suspicous in this case!

oh i didnt know the guy in the bright orange had been cleared...makes sense now he was looking for a ride...i have to agree with ya on the latter,,i mean if he was hit on the head,,then maybe he has amnesia,,i think about it all the time,,lie detector tests are not accurate..just taking one makes you upset..and that could be the case..alot of people dont believe in them..i know for a fact that they can be passed even when your lying cause my younger sister lied lied lied and passed a lie detector test...(she later bragged to me about it) this story saddens me more and more with every day that goes by....i mean since april 1st...its just horrible