Led Zeppelin vs Pear Jam

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  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,224
    DeetroitBaasketball wrote:
    whose songs did zeppelin have??????????????????????? dumbest shit i ever heard o are you thinking of stairway to heaven written by the backstreet boys [/quote]

    Might want to check into that actually. They ended paying a lot of money to various peoples because some songs borrowed just a bit much. Yes, even Stairway... there was a post on this a short while back.[/quote]
    here's the link to that thread:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=238989
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,224
    and while I like Led Zeppelin and appreciate everything that they've done for rock, I pick Pearl Jam
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    Oh I know, I don't think any less of them for it and they certainly did do it better than the originals as far as I've heard.

    The Rain Song and Going to California continue to be two of my favorite songs of all time.. both originals I believe.

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  • Indifference
    Indifference Posts: 2,778
    yosi wrote:
    Cool beans.

    This is the hardest thing to decide but its hard to go against Zep - they are the definition of a super group.


    You could ARGUE (its all subjective) that JP Jones was the best bass player, Page best guitarist, Bonham the best drummer, and Plant the best singer. Put it all together and - WOW.

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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    In terms of who I personally like more, well... that would have to be Pearl Jam, I guess.

    But who the better band is? Well, that's a moot point. The only thing that matters is who individual people like more.
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  • Todd76
    Todd76 Posts: 1,469
    Zeppelin suck.....sorry.

    I find them really boring AND Plants vocals make me insane. Don't even try to say that I am close minded or haven't listened to them enough - my housemates in 2nd year university were all Zeppelin fans.....i've heard it all and it dont do shit for me.
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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,003
    Todd76 wrote:
    Zeppelin suck.....sorry.

    I find them really boring AND Plants vocals make me insane. Don't even try to say that I am close minded or haven't listened to them enough - my housemates in 2nd year university were all Zeppelin fans.....i've heard it all and it dont do shit for me.

    just because it doesn't do shit for you doesn't mean it sucks. whether you like Led Zeppelin or not, you have to admit that their musicanship is far superior to that of Pearl Jam. anybody who says otherwise is insane.
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  • Todd76
    Todd76 Posts: 1,469
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    just because it doesn't do shit for you doesn't mean it sucks. whether you like Led Zeppelin or not, you have to admit that their musicanship is far superior to that of Pearl Jam. anybody who says otherwise is insane.

    I'm definitely allowed to think they suck....while you may think they are great musicians, that does not make them a great band. There are lots of bands out there that are skilled musicians, but if the music is boring and the vocals are grating and annoying - in my opinion they suck....very overrated. Most of the bands I really like arent going to win any awards for their musicianship, but I am able to connect with some aspect of the music.
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  • SLH916
    SLH916 Posts: 132
    Todd76 wrote:
    Zeppelin suck.....sorry.

    I find them really boring AND Plants vocals make me insane. Don't even try to say that I am close minded or haven't listened to them enough - my housemates in 2nd year university were all Zeppelin fans.....i've heard it all and it dont do shit for me.

    I also think that you can't compare Led Zep and PJ until after PJ are no longer around.

    Right now most people are willing to remember Led Zep for only their best work while there are countless threads on the Porch dealing with how much Riot Act sucks.

    The fact is that Plant's vocals, toward the end, are frighteningly bad live. This is also a matter of taste, but I don't think that Pearl Jam have put out a really bad studio album. Led Zeppelin have. Plant's singing in In Through the Out Door is just...excruciating. And the songwriting is best left uncommented upon.
  • laudenum
    laudenum Posts: 405
    pj is by far a better/tighter band. ed's a waaaayyy better singer.
    saw zepp live in 75? one of those things where a band is better on record than live.
    pj blows all other bands out of the water live.
    imho
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  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Pearl Jam cannot reach Led Zeppelin status until sadly they are no longer a band (hopefully a LONG time from now). Then there is no doubt that they will be with Led Zeppelin and The Beatles, who currently occupy that place together in my mind.

    i almost 100% agree. i think more people think zeppelin is better because of how long their music has been around, and everyone and their mom loves led zeppelin. i personally think all around pearl jam is better. maybe a biased opinion but then again i really feel strongly about this, not to say they are a way better band than zeppelin who was one of the greatest, i just think as far as rock n roll bands are concerned pearl jam is the best there is. i don't think they have to be no longer a band though for people to realize this. i just think it will take more time, like maybe 20 more years. look at the stones, they still do shows and they are considered by many to be the best band in the world..............although, i'm not sure who it was but i think it was usa today that called pearl jam "the greatest band rock-n-roll band of all time", anyway i know many who would not disagree with that including myself.
  • Lifted
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    Matty Boy wrote:
    Led Zeppelin and it's not even close. Pearl Jam is a great band but bands like Zeppelin, The Stones, and The Who are in another class.

    how can you say that. what is so much better about their music. and why do you think they are way better musicians? maybe i can answer that for you........because they have reached more of an icon status than pearl jam.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    I love Pearl Jam but Led Zeppelin by a landslide.

    For a poster who says Zeppelin is too much drama live, true, but that's what music was then. It would be like complaining that Pearl jam was grungey on their first couple albums.

    I'd like to see the justification for Pearl Jam being more diverse than Zeppelin. Pearl Jam has basically played straight ahead rock and roll their whole career with almost no outside influences. Zeppelin continued to bring in outside influences to rock right up through their last album, remember the samba breakdown in Fool In The Rain.

    Even if both bands were tied I'd give it to Zeppelin just on the strength of John Bonham's drumming.
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  • Lifted
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    i don't know where everyone is getting these ideas that zeppelin is a far superior band and their "musicianship" is far superior to pearl jams'. led zeppelin was great, jimmy page was a great guitar play, bonham was a nasty drummer etc....but how can you say the combination of stone gossard and mike mccready is not great as well, and whatever drummer pearl jam has had, i think matt cameron is pretty sick, you can agrue that bonham was better but come on....lets not get carried away here and forget how great pearl jam actually is. i also think eddie vedder is a way better frontman than plant was, vocally and performance wise. i love led zeppelin but have you ever been to a show or even seen a recording of a show....plant can't compete with vedder...no one connects with an audience like ed. all that being said, i'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that maybe 70% of the people saying zeppelin is "superior" is saying that because when you hear zeppelin talked about, it's all about how they revolutionized rock music and they are one of the greatest all time in their genre. pearl jam is a relatively newer band and words like that aren't thrown around as much with them YET. so i think some people need to form their own opinion on what makes a rock band great, and not just listen to what rock historians have to say, because they all talk about the past. anyway i'm sure a lot of people actually prefer zeppelin also which is fine, they are a great band, and in that case it comes down to a matter of opinion. but i'd go with pearl jam
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Tiki Barber wrote:
    no one connects with an audience like ed. all that being said, i'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that maybe 70% of the people saying zeppelin is "superior" is saying that because when you hear zeppelin talked about, it's all about how they revolutionized rock music and they are one of the greatest all time in their genre. pearl jam is a relatively newer band and words like that aren't thrown around as much with them YET. so i think some people need to form their own opinion on what makes a rock band great, and not just listen to what rock historians have to say, because they all talk about the past. anyway i'm sure a lot of people actually prefer zeppelin also which is fine, they are a great band, and in that case it comes down to a matter of opinion. but i'd go with pearl jam

    Led Zeppelin DID revolutionize rock and roll.
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Tiki Barber wrote:
    and whatever drummer pearl jam has had, i think matt cameron is pretty sick, you can agrue that bonham was better but come on....
    I think Matt C is a great drummer live but has he written a single memorable and identifiable drum pattern while with Pearl Jam. Not one I can think of. Where as Bonham has a slew of them, Rock N Roll, When The Levee Breaks, Achilles Last Stand, Fool In The Rain. And John Bonham never wrote anything as bad as Evacuation.
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  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    yosi wrote:
    Led Zeppelin DID revolutionize rock and roll.

    agreed. but you're missing the point.......i'm not gonna explain why because i just wrote up a long post, but i think some people will understand what i said.
  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    surferdude wrote:
    I think Matt C is a great drummer live but has he written a single memorable and identifiable drum pattern while with Pearl Jam. Not one I can think of. Where as Bonham has a slew of them, Rock N Roll, When The Levee Breaks, Achilles Last Stand, Fool In The Rain. And John Bonham never wrote anything as bad as Evacuation.

    i was pretty impressed with the drumming on severed hand, just to name one. but we are talking about a band here.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    whose songs did zeppelin have??????????????????????? dumbest shit i ever heard o are you thinking of stairway to heaven written by the backstreet boys
    pretty much all of Led Zeppelin's songs were plagiarised directly from old blues songs.
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