Cobain, Vedder, Cornell or Staley?

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  • reditalian
    reditalian Posts: 329
    muppet wrote:
    So I know there's other notable singers from the 90s, but I'm just talking about the "Big Four" of grunge here. Based on songwriting, vocals, technical ability or whatever, who do you think is the best frontman?

    How about all 4 together in an 8 hour show. I'm going to go have a nap so I can dream of this......hahaha
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  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    vedder,cornell,staley
    no cobain, ill take weiland over him
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  • Brainofdz
    Brainofdz Posts: 1,617
    you are all losers

    Cobain was the best
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  • bee_boy
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    ecd1973 wrote:
    Hasslehoff

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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,669
    When I heard Hungerstrike always liked the Vedder vocal better than Cornell's
    so Vedder > Cornell

    Alice N Chains Right Turn like Layne's vocals better than Cornel's l so Layne>Cornell

    Kurt Is great but comes in fourth.


    Scott Weiland comes in fifth
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  • PJammer4life
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    What a great time in music..todays rock has no purpose again
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJammer4life wrote:
    What a great time in music..todays rock has no purpose again


    no one fucking writes about anything anymore in music... nobody wants to fucking decrease their market share... its like this last election. gillard and abbott just not saying anything, just so they dont scare anyone off
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  • craigb
    craigb Posts: 806
    Vedder
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  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    the answer was kurt in 1991 and its kurt in 2010. it will always be kurt. yes the history books will mention, cornell, vedder and staley, but number 1, the person mentioned as spokesman of his generation, the person given the most credit will always be kurt.
  • lephty
    lephty Posts: 770
    catefrances wrote:
    no one fucking writes about anything anymore in music... nobody wants to fucking decrease their market share... its like this last election. gillard and abbott just not saying anything, just so they dont scare anyone off
    - garth liddiard. the drones. 8-)

    i can only slightly agree with this... but bands like

    Fleet Foxes
    Grizzly Bear
    My Morning Jacket
    The National
    Arcade Fire
    Bon Iver

    are definitely my favorite scene of music since the 90's era rock!
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    I think Ed is hands down the best singer/lyricist.

    That said, I think Cornell is probably more musical ability.

    I'd go...

    Vedder, Cornell, Cobain, Staley.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    lephty wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    no one fucking writes about anything anymore in music... nobody wants to fucking decrease their market share... its like this last election. gillard and abbott just not saying anything, just so they dont scare anyone off
    - garth liddiard. the drones. 8-)

    i can only slightly agree with this... but bands like

    Fleet Foxes
    Grizzly Bear
    My Morning Jacket
    The National
    Arcade Fire
    Bon Iver

    are definitely my favorite scene of music since the 90's era rock!

    MMJ isn't really in that scene. I'd put them somewhere close to jam band territory, that and they actually play decent music.



    Cornell is/was the best technically and it's prolly not really close
    Staley and Cobain were kinda bad in a way and got by on the emotion
    Vedder is just really good all around.
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Benzor wrote:
    Vocal Ability: Cornell, Vedder/Staley, Cobain

    As far as vocal talent goes this is not close. Chris Cornell could do things that no one else could do. Listen to Slaves and Bulldozers and Jesus Christ Pose. The first time I hard these back to back I was literally speechless. Best 10 minutes of vocals in the history of music. He hits notes that I didn't even think could be hit.

    I agree that Cornell can absolutely hit notes that nobody else can, but I don't know if I would crown him the king of vocals. IMO Vedder has always been a better live singer.....and I think he also showcases his voice in several different singing styles, where Cornell seems more limited delivery wise. I agree with everyting else you wrote though.

    For me its: Vedder<
    Cornell<--Staley<
    Cobain
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    UpSideDown wrote:
    I agree that Cornell can absolutely hit notes that nobody else can, but I don't know if I would crown him the king of vocals. IMO Vedder has always been a better live singer.....and I think he also showcases his voice in several different singing styles, where Cornell seems more limited delivery wise. I agree with everyting else you wrote though.

    For me its: Vedder<
    Cornell<--Staley<
    Cobain

    I can't say I would agree with Cornell's delivery being limited, in fact I would say he's far more versatile then any of the other singers. That juxtaposition is no more evident than on the Singles OST where he goes from metal screaming with Soundgarden on Birth Ritual, to a much more bluesy voice on Seasons, where you really get to hear the depth of his lower register. Then you have stuff like Temple Of The Dog and Euphoria Morning where he goes for a much more soulful sound.

    I would agree that Vedder is more consistent live, but then he didn't set himself the stunningly high standards that Cornell did in the studio.
  • rhcpjam1029
    rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,982
    vocally, i think Cornell is the best. just listen to four walled world.
    as far as who is the best frontman, i'd say Vedder.
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  • dcfaithful
    dcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    Vedder
    Cornell (earlier in his career, Badmotorfinger I think has been his greatest recorded work.)
    Staley
    Cobain
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    dcfaithful wrote:
    Vedder
    Cornell (earlier in his career, Badmotorfinger I think has been his greatest recorded work.)
    Staley
    Cobain


    my thoughts exactly.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    If I actually have to sing along, then this is easy.

    Cobain (just play and sing off-key)
    Vedder (he avoids the high parts which helps me)
    Cornell (The Day I Tried to Live is a perfect example of his range and I can't get near the 2nd verse)
    Staley (that's unpossible)
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Jason P wrote:
    If I actually have to sing along, then this is easy.

    Cobain (just play and sing off-key)
    Vedder (he avoids the high parts which helps me)
    Cornell (The Day I Tried to Live is a perfect example of his range and I can't get near the 2nd verse)
    Staley (that's unpossible)

    You find it easier to sing Cornell than Staley? Not for me. Staley, Vedder, and Cobain are all in my comfortable range.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    If I actually have to sing along, then this is easy.

    Cobain (just play and sing off-key)
    Vedder (he avoids the high parts which helps me)
    Cornell (The Day I Tried to Live is a perfect example of his range and I can't get near the 2nd verse)
    Staley (that's unpossible)

    You find it easier to sing Cornell than Staley? Not for me. Staley, Vedder, and Cobain are all in my comfortable range.
    For Staley, I guess it depend on if is early or late stuff. He seems to be in a drug induced stupor for much of the tripod album and it is pretty easy to match. I guess Cornell is harder to match now that I think about it.
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