If I was going on vocals alone I would go with 1. Staley 2. Cornell 3. Cobain 4. Vedder
But looking at everything as a whole, I think Vedder is an amazing frontman. Sure he may not have as strong of a voice to me as the other 3 seeing as how their vocals are some of my all time favorites but Eddie just does a great job and represents the band well.
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If I was going on vocals alone I would go with 1. Staley 2. Cornell 3. Cobain 4. Vedder
But looking at everything as a whole, I think Vedder is an amazing frontman. Sure he may not have as strong of a voice to me as the other 3 seeing as how their vocals are some of my all time favorites but Eddie just does a great job and represents the band well.
you prefer cobain's vocals to vedder's??! I'm with you on Layne though. The version of Love, Hate, Love on Live Facelift is amazing. before he got too messed up, he was an incredible live singer.
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whoever said scott weiland has got to be having a laugh. any 4 of those guys farts could out do his musical talent. he's a passable singer and i love purple but as far as i know, he dont write.
For leaving lanegan off, i berate the original poster
My list:
Cornell: best technical singer and songwriter overall and level as a live performer with eddie (both good and bad respects) getting better as a lyricist, he has written some v accessible stuff as well as cryptic. (say hello to heaven and the whole totd thing, anyone?)
also, the whole, he doesnt sing like its 1992 thing is getting really old, hes lost the top end of his range thats all. and the person who said hes too into himself-he's happier these days after beating alcohol addiction and depression, going through a divorce after longest relationship in his life,etc. sorry if you wanted him not to do that. you re confusing arrogance with contentment and confidence.
vedder: I love his voice, his lyrics are better than Cornell's and he's level as performer. As songwriter and vocalist, Cornell outdoes him though. I wonder what solo efforts would be like...
Cobain: Brilliant songwriter, adequate/chilling voice, wished he d realised his potential. the michael stipe collaboration would have been excellent. Great performer too. he is different to the other 3 though-nirvana had v little in common with other seattle bands soundwise after bleach. Its possibly unfaor to compare him.
Staley: Good voice, better performer, not much of a songwriter but when he did write them, you wanted more. Gets extra points for Mad season and unplugged. that was the nuts.
If id have included lanegan the man would be #2 behind cornell. Consistantly exciting and accurate performer, written very underated songs both with trees and solo. his voice is so good he can whore it out to people like greg dulli and josh homme. lyrics are poignant and varied too. He has this cool factor that the others dont-pretty inexplicable, anyone know what i mean?
well thts my 2ps worth
Agree, especially about Cornell. I'd still put Layne above Kurt though. And if we're talking Staley/Cantrell I think they could rival Eddie.
hahaha...sort of agree, however there is one other thing you're forgetting, the order:
1. Cornell
2. Staley (and the spelling - winky winky)
3. Vedder
course, if Cantrell's in the oicture, its another matter,
And maybe i shd put layne above cobain but i think its my nirvana nostalgia taking over. if i had to choose, it would be layne, i dnt really listen to nirvana at all now.
Yeah, I tend to agree.
Although I might switch Staley with Cornell...it's a close one.
Cobain is def. at the far end of the list. A few more ">"s might be in order.
I'm sorry, but he was hugely glorified and really brought nothing to the table. I wish he was still around, but I don't think he would have done much of anything. That's just me though!
As far as vocal talent goes this is not close. Chris Cornell could do things that no one else could do. Listen to Slaves and Bulldozers and Jesus Christ Pose. The first time I hard these back to back I was literally speechless. Best 10 minutes of vocals in the history of music. He hits notes that I didn't even think could be hit.
Lyrics: Vedder, Cornell, Staley, Corbain
Vedder has written some of the greatest lyrics of all time. As a band I would put Alice In Chains close if not next to Pearl Jam lyrically but Cantrell wrote a large portion of Alice's lyrics so thats why I didn't put Staley higher.
Stage Presence: Vedder, Staley, Cornell, Cobain
Eddie Vedder is one of the great live front men ever. The way he connects with the crowd, his little modifications to songs on the fly, his great tags, and uncanny ability to make every show a unique and special experience make him my favorite singer of all time when it comes to live shows.
Personal Preference: Vedder, Cornell/Staley, Cobain
Overall Eddie Vedder is my favorite singer from the 90's. While he may not have the best singing ability (that would be Cornell or Jeff Buckley) he has a great combination of amazing lyrics and unrivaled stage presense that puts him above anyone else. As far as vocal ability alone, Cornell is one of the best singers ever. Personally the only person that can even compete with Cornell's voice is Jeff Buckley. Staley is one of the most underrated singers of the 90's. He is often remembered more for being a drug addict then a great singer. He might not have had the lyrics of Vedder or the voice of Cornell but he could evoke emotion like no other singer I have ever heard. Listen to Nutshell if you don't know what I'm talking about. As for Cobain, I'm not a Nirvana hater, in fact I like Nirvana. However, he is not even close to being on the same level as the 3 unless you count writing catchy guitar riffs that anyone with any guitar knowledge could play.
also, the whole, he doesnt sing like its 1992 thing is getting really old, hes lost the top end of his range thats all. and the person who said hes too into himself-he's happier these days after beating alcohol addiction and depression, going through a divorce after longest relationship in his life,etc. sorry if you wanted him not to do that. you re confusing arrogance with contentment and confidence.
Agreed. I'd say Cornell's performances on Badmotorfinger, TOTD, and Superunknown were pretty damn good. I also like SG the most out of all those Seattle bands, so I'd say SG/Cornell is my personal fav.
But I see a lot of people here bashing Nirvana. You only need to hear that Unplugged performance to know that he was right up there with the other 3.
Agreed. I'd say Cornell's performances on Badmotorfinger, TOTD, and Superunknown were pretty damn good. I also like SG the most out of all those Seattle bands, so I'd say SG/Cornell is my personal fav.
But I see a lot of people here bashing Nirvana. You only need to hear that Unplugged performance to know that he was right up there with the other 3.
I have heard the unplugged performance and no Cobain was not up there with the other 3.
As far as vocal talent goes this is not close. Chris Cornell could do things that no one else could do. Listen to Slaves and Bulldozers and Jesus Christ Pose. The first time I hard these back to back I was literally speechless. Best 10 minutes of vocals in the history of music. He hits notes that I didn't even think could be hit.
Lyrics: Vedder, Cornell, Staley, Corbain
Vedder has written some of the greatest lyrics of all time. As a band I would put Alice In Chains close if not next to Pearl Jam lyrically but Cantrell wrote a large portion of Alice's lyrics so thats why I didn't put Staley higher.
Stage Presence: Vedder, Staley, Cornell, Cobain
Eddie Vedder is one of the great live front men ever. The way he connects with the crowd, his little modifications to songs on the fly, his great tags, and uncanny ability to make every show a unique and special experience make him my favorite singer of all time when it comes to live shows.
Personal Preference: Vedder, Cornell/Staley, Cobain
Overall Eddie Vedder is my favorite singer from the 90's. While he may not have the best singing ability (that would be Cornell or Jeff Buckley) he has a great combination of amazing lyrics and unrivaled stage presense that puts him above anyone else. As far as vocal ability alone, Cornell is one of the best singers ever. Personally the only person that can even compete with Cornell's voice is Jeff Buckley. Staley is one of the most underrated singers of the 90's. He is often remembered more for being a drug addict then a great singer. He might not have had the lyrics of Vedder or the voice of Cornell but he could evoke emotion like no other singer I have ever heard. Listen to Nutshell if you don't know what I'm talking about. As for Cobain, I'm not a Nirvana hater, in fact I like Nirvana. However, he is not even close to being on the same level as the 3 unless you count writing catchy guitar riffs that anyone with any guitar knowledge could play.
I agree with every bit of this, except that I think Cornell is a better lyricist than Stanley and Cantrell.
I'm not a fan of Cobain or Nirvana. But it should be taken into consideration that he was only something like 27 when he died.
Vedder was still pumping gas in San Diego around that age, and Cornell only started to write good stuff when he got into his late 20s.
I personally would put Staley in the same league as Vedder & Cornell when it come to songwriting.
My opinion is that Cornell is the better singer, Vedder the better songwriter.
What Cobain had done is his short musical carrer shouldn't be taken lightly.
Although I respect Staley, he'd be in 4th place for me.
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So I know there's other notable singers from the 90s, but I'm just talking about the "Big Four" of grunge here. Based on songwriting, vocals, technical ability or whatever, who do you think is the best frontman?
How about all 4 together in an 8 hour show. I'm going to go have a nap so I can dream of this......hahaha
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I've been to alot of Pearl Jam shows;So fucking what.
When I heard Hungerstrike always liked the Vedder vocal better than Cornell's
so Vedder > Cornell
Alice N Chains Right Turn like Layne's vocals better than Cornel's l so Layne>Cornell
Kurt Is great but comes in fourth.
Scott Weiland comes in fifth
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no one fucking writes about anything anymore in music... nobody wants to fucking decrease their market share... its like this last election. gillard and abbott just not saying anything, just so they dont scare anyone off
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the answer was kurt in 1991 and its kurt in 2010. it will always be kurt. yes the history books will mention, cornell, vedder and staley, but number 1, the person mentioned as spokesman of his generation, the person given the most credit will always be kurt.
no one fucking writes about anything anymore in music... nobody wants to fucking decrease their market share... its like this last election. gillard and abbott just not saying anything, just so they dont scare anyone off
- garth liddiard. the drones.
i can only slightly agree with this... but bands like
Fleet Foxes
Grizzly Bear
My Morning Jacket
The National
Arcade Fire
Bon Iver
are definitely my favorite scene of music since the 90's era rock!
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But looking at everything as a whole, I think Vedder is an amazing frontman. Sure he may not have as strong of a voice to me as the other 3 seeing as how their vocals are some of my all time favorites but Eddie just does a great job and represents the band well.
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hahaha...sort of agree, however there is one other thing you're forgetting, the order:
1. Cornell
2. Staley (and the spelling - winky winky)
3. Vedder
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you're funny
course, if Cantrell's in the oicture, its another matter,
And maybe i shd put layne above cobain but i think its my nirvana nostalgia taking over. if i had to choose, it would be layne, i dnt really listen to nirvana at all now.
bastard question tho!
Yeah, I tend to agree.
Although I might switch Staley with Cornell...it's a close one.
Cobain is def. at the far end of the list. A few more ">"s might be in order.
I agree
Primarily due to incredible song writing.
And you call that Cobain?!?!?! :eek:
I'm sorry, but he was hugely glorified and really brought nothing to the table. I wish he was still around, but I don't think he would have done much of anything. That's just me though!
As far as vocal talent goes this is not close. Chris Cornell could do things that no one else could do. Listen to Slaves and Bulldozers and Jesus Christ Pose. The first time I hard these back to back I was literally speechless. Best 10 minutes of vocals in the history of music. He hits notes that I didn't even think could be hit.
Lyrics: Vedder, Cornell, Staley, Corbain
Vedder has written some of the greatest lyrics of all time. As a band I would put Alice In Chains close if not next to Pearl Jam lyrically but Cantrell wrote a large portion of Alice's lyrics so thats why I didn't put Staley higher.
Stage Presence: Vedder, Staley, Cornell, Cobain
Eddie Vedder is one of the great live front men ever. The way he connects with the crowd, his little modifications to songs on the fly, his great tags, and uncanny ability to make every show a unique and special experience make him my favorite singer of all time when it comes to live shows.
Personal Preference: Vedder, Cornell/Staley, Cobain
Overall Eddie Vedder is my favorite singer from the 90's. While he may not have the best singing ability (that would be Cornell or Jeff Buckley) he has a great combination of amazing lyrics and unrivaled stage presense that puts him above anyone else. As far as vocal ability alone, Cornell is one of the best singers ever. Personally the only person that can even compete with Cornell's voice is Jeff Buckley. Staley is one of the most underrated singers of the 90's. He is often remembered more for being a drug addict then a great singer. He might not have had the lyrics of Vedder or the voice of Cornell but he could evoke emotion like no other singer I have ever heard. Listen to Nutshell if you don't know what I'm talking about. As for Cobain, I'm not a Nirvana hater, in fact I like Nirvana. However, he is not even close to being on the same level as the 3 unless you count writing catchy guitar riffs that anyone with any guitar knowledge could play.
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this truly depends on my mood
they each give me something different depending on that
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Agreed. I'd say Cornell's performances on Badmotorfinger, TOTD, and Superunknown were pretty damn good. I also like SG the most out of all those Seattle bands, so I'd say SG/Cornell is my personal fav.
But I see a lot of people here bashing Nirvana. You only need to hear that Unplugged performance to know that he was right up there with the other 3.
I have heard the unplugged performance and no Cobain was not up there with the other 3.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
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"Make our day"
Vedder
Staley
Cornell
Cobain
Cornell
Staley
Cobain
Vedder was still pumping gas in San Diego around that age, and Cornell only started to write good stuff when he got into his late 20s.
I personally would put Staley in the same league as Vedder & Cornell when it come to songwriting.
My opinion is that Cornell is the better singer, Vedder the better songwriter.
What Cobain had done is his short musical carrer shouldn't be taken lightly.
Although I respect Staley, he'd be in 4th place for me.
PJ albums, at the moment!! -
1,Vs 2,Vitalogy 3,No Code 4,Yield 5,Ten 6,Backspacer, 7Pearl Jam 8,Binaural 9,Riot Act.
How about all 4 together in an 8 hour show. I'm going to go have a nap so I can dream of this......hahaha
"0035 EVENFLOW PSYCHOS
"I'm George Bush and my son's an asshole" 08/03/2000
Don't stop wen you're tired, stop when you're done
no cobain, ill take weiland over him
no more shows
Cobain was the best
When you see me on the street, yell out "FAVO!!!"
I've been to alot of Pearl Jam shows;So fucking what.
WORD.
so Vedder > Cornell
Alice N Chains Right Turn like Layne's vocals better than Cornel's l so Layne>Cornell
Kurt Is great but comes in fourth.
Scott Weiland comes in fifth
no one fucking writes about anything anymore in music... nobody wants to fucking decrease their market share... its like this last election. gillard and abbott just not saying anything, just so they dont scare anyone off
- garth liddiard. the drones.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
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i can only slightly agree with this... but bands like
Fleet Foxes
Grizzly Bear
My Morning Jacket
The National
Arcade Fire
Bon Iver
are definitely my favorite scene of music since the 90's era rock!