hey, someone also said the other day that they heard something about rumors of PJ playing the South on a Florida radio station, so we might be on to SOMETHING!!!!!!!!! :D:D
will PJ play Raleigh??? I would rather see them play the RBC instead of Alltell.
Id rather see them inside as well. I think the sound and intensity comes at a higher level. But at this point I will just be happy to see any date in the Raleigh, G-Boro, or Charlotte.
hey, someone also said the other day that they heard something about rumors of PJ playing the South on a Florida radio station, so we might be on to SOMETHING!!!!!!!!! :D:D
I hope we are in store for some good new at some point.
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You live life, but does it live for you?
Facades pop up in this world everyday.
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What?? Juli!!! Come back here and let us know if you've heard anything..oh my...Hope this is not just another bad rumor..I don't want to get my heart broken again..
Bumpity bump...Time to get rid of my extra ass humps...Off to exercising I go!
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
So here goes my first post here and it's going to wind up being a rant. If it only serves as a venue for me to vent, so be it.
I know the whole isssue of the band not touring the South has been beaten into to the ground already but I feel the need to finally chime in with my two cents or perhaps a dollar. Let me start by saying that Pearl Jam is my favorite band and the only band that I truly care about seeing in concert. I can't even begin to express how upset I am that they aren't performing in the southeast on this tour which is supporting the best CD they've released in years (which is really saying something). I'm even more disappinted in how this entire issue has been handled by a band that claims to care so much for their fans. Like many of you I watched the website, checking the tour dates waiting anxiously to find out where and when they'd be playing in the South. Announcements came..leg 1, leg 2, Europe, Mars but no mention of the South. It wasn't until I finally visited this forum that I discovered the dates for the South simply weren't coming.
I find the fact that this band chose to ignore an entire region of the country ridiculous and the way they handled it totally disrepectful and quite frankly arrogant. I've seen many posts where people mock the situation by asking if the band should list each city they aren't visiting. Obviously nobody would expect this but if you're bypassing a third of the country make it known up front so people can plan accordingly, common sense and simple courtesy come to mind.
Now for the rant...the only excuse I've seen for the band skipping the South is poor ticket sells on previous tours in the region. Sounds funny for a band that has shunned commercialism for so many years, doesn't it? If you want to sell more tickets do more to promote your product and expand radio airplay of your excellent material. Sounds like simple marketing to me, but what do I know? Another solution might be to play fewer venues. For instance in my state, North Carolina, skip Raleigh and Charlotte to play Greensboro which has a very large coliseum located between those two cities (you've been there before, I was in row 16 when you nearly blew the roof off the place). It can't be that difficult guys, it's not like you travel with 20 tractor trailers to put on your "production". My neighbor has more lights and props for Halloween than you do for a show. Not a problem mind you, I care more for the quality of the music than any theatrics, just a point.
Rant finalized...and this is for the band as if they'd read it. Guys, I "drink the kool aid" everytime you offer it. I'm a member of the tenclub strictly for the chance to get decent tickets to see you and this time around I won't even get that chance. I'm married and have 2 kids, I can't afford to jet off somewhere to see my favorite band. I've seen you in concert 9 times here in the South and each time I left amazed, knowing that I'd seen the greatest band ever pour their hearts and souls into their performance. That being said, I've also paid my dues. I've waited for 4 hours in the scorching Atlanta sun to pick up my tickets for your show. I've purchased over a dozen of your bootlegs...to hear one song live, to hear what you played on my birthday and to hear the shows that I attended. I've also purchased all of your terribly produced dvd's, ever hear of focus or professional production? (As a side note, check out the Eagles Farewell Tour dvd to see and hear how well one of your shows could be captured) These things being said, I'm still a Pearl Jam fan and I'll enjoy your music for the rest of my life. I just hope you'll understand and appreciate how hurtful your tour decision has been for many of your fans.
Thanks to those that sponsor this message forum. Whether you agree with my opinions or not is of minor importartance, I'm just glad to finally express what's been running through my head.
It's possible that they might actually lose money, if ticket sales are bad enough. Are you going to cover the costs? Yes, they've got a lot of money, but that doesn't mean they should be foolish with it just because you want to see them play.
So they don't tour near you for a year, big deal. When was the last time Salt Lake City, UT saw them?
So here goes my first post here and it's going to wind up being a rant. If it only serves as a venue for me to vent, so be it.
I know the whole isssue of the band not touring the South has been beaten into to the ground already but I feel the need to finally chime in with my two cents or perhaps a dollar. Let me start by saying that Pearl Jam is my favorite band and the only band that I truly care about seeing in concert. I can't even begin to express how upset I am that they aren't performing in the southeast on this tour which is supporting the best CD they've released in years (which is really saying something). I'm even more disappinted in how this entire issue has been handled by a band that claims to care so much for their fans. Like many of you I watched the website, checking the tour dates waiting anxiously to find out where and when they'd be playing in the South. Announcements came..leg 1, leg 2, Europe, Mars but no mention of the South. It wasn't until I finally visited this forum that I discovered the dates for the South simply weren't coming.
I find the fact that this band chose to ignore an entire region of the country ridiculous and the way they handled it totally disrepectful and quite frankly arrogant. I've seen many posts where people mock the situation by asking if the band should list each city they aren't visiting. Obviously nobody would expect this but if you're bypassing a third of the country make it known up front so people can plan accordingly, common sense and simple courtesy come to mind.
Now for the rant...the only excuse I've seen for the band skipping the South is poor ticket sells on previous tours in the region. Sounds funny for a band that has shunned commercialism for so many years, doesn't it? If you want to sell more tickets do more to promote your product and expand radio airplay of your excellent material. Sounds like simple marketing to me, but what do I know? Another solution might be to play fewer venues. For instance in my state, North Carolina, skip Raleigh and Charlotte to play Greensboro which has a very large coliseum located between those two cities (you've been there before, I was in row 16 when you nearly blew the roof off the place). It can't be that difficult guys, it's not like you travel with 20 tractor trailers to put on your "production". My neighbor has more lights and props for Halloween than you do for a show. Not a problem mind you, I care more for the quality of the music than any theatrics, just a point.
Rant finalized...and this is for the band as if they'd read it. Guys, I "drink the kool aid" everytime you offer it. I'm a member of the tenclub strictly for the chance to get decent tickets to see you and this time around I won't even get that chance. I'm married and have 2 kids, I can't afford to jet off somewhere to see my favorite band. I've seen you in concert 9 times here in the South and each time I left amazed, knowing that I'd seen the greatest band ever pour their hearts and souls into their performance. That being said, I've also paid my dues. I've waited for 4 hours in the scorching Atlanta sun to pick up my tickets for your show. I've purchased over a dozen of your bootlegs...to hear one song live, to hear what you played on my birthday and to hear the shows that I attended. I've also purchased all of your terribly produced dvd's, ever hear of focus or professional production? (As a side note, check out the Eagles Farewell Tour dvd to see and hear how well one of your shows could be captured) These things being said, I'm still a Pearl Jam fan and I'll enjoy your music for the rest of my life. I just hope you'll understand and appreciate how hurtful your tour decision has been for many of your fans.
Thanks to those that sponsor this message forum. Whether you agree with my opinions or not is of minor importartance, I'm just glad to finally express what's been running through my head.
I feel ya bro. Im in California, only two states south of Seattle and I had to wait a full 3 years to see the band because they deemed Hamilton, Ontario and Buenos Aires more important than my State. Thems the breaks. There may also be a problem selling tickets down there because of the political stuff which is unfortunate for all involved since it should be just about the music. Have patience. They will arrive in the Winter and I personally insist they play a show in New Orleans............
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It is also very bad environmentally if you are going to play shows farther apart like you suggest. Playing fewer shows but covering a lot of ground makes it inefficient both in terms of cost and time and a hell of a lot of fumes for the amount of shows. Sorry, but get over it. No Vancouver show yet which has bummed me out, but life goes on and there are many, many places that will never get to see PJ or any large band and those are the breaks in life.
I realize that we've been lucky to see them here in the South at all, but it's not like we're on a different continent. Regarding the environmental aspects, I would encourage anyone from the south who wants to see the band to drive a very large SUV, solo, to the event....and of course donate 10 bucks to an environmental lobby to cover the damage.
...I've seen you in concert 9 times here in the South and each time I left amazed, knowing that I'd seen the greatest band ever pour their hearts and souls into their performance...
I bet a lot of people would be grateful to see their favorite band 9 times in their local area.
I feel ya bro. Im in California, only two states south of Seattle and I had to wait a full 3 years to see the band because they deemed Hamilton, Ontario and Buenos Aires more important than my State. Thems the breaks. There may also be a problem selling tickets down there because of the political stuff which is unfortunate for all involved since it should be just about the music. Have patience. They will arrive in the Winter and I personally insist they play a show in New Orleans............
You saw PJ live 16 times and complaint about waiting 3 years????!!!!!!
OMFG
We were waiting down here 15 years and who knows when they'll return
only love can break your heart
but only love can brake your fall
I realize that we've been lucky to see them here in the South at all, but it's not like we're on a different continent. Regarding the environmental aspects, I would encourage anyone from the south who wants to see the band to drive a very large SUV, solo, to the event....and of course donate 10 bucks to an environmental lobby to cover the damage.
true. but, different continent or not, it's been 6 years for those fans.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
You saw PJ live 16 times and complaint about waiting 3 years????!!!!!!
OMFG
i know right its like hello we all waited 3 years. HELL europe waited 6 years and not alot of bitching from them.people need to realize pj is just a band they could say thats it shows over floks were done with and never make another cd, my life will go on
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
i know right its like hello we all waited 3 years. HELL europe waited 6 years and not alot of bitching from them.people need to realize pj is just a band they could say thats it shows over floks were done with and never make another cd, my life will go on
have you been drinking tonight?
that's why i usually buy all of the boots from europe, you can hear the love for the band, the appreciation, almost feel the emotion of the crown...if there's any complaining on their part at least i haven't heard it.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
that's why i usually buy all of the boots from europe, you can hear the love for the band, the appreciation, almost feel the emotion of the crown...if there's any complaining on their part at least i haven't heard it.
no i just rolled a j before that post HEHE.i havent heard bitching at all from them. thats why im going to europe when pj tours again
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Let him vent....God knows I vent here on these boards all the time! it's part of our nature. A little support from wonderful PJ fans is all we need!
But I agree with Metsfan..Let's see what 2007 has in store for us. Hopefully I will get to see them for the first time close to my hometown. With two kids and a non supportive husband, yes, it's hard to travel to far.
Thanks to quite a few fans here, I've gotten a "taste" of what it will be like the day I do get to see them. So many thanks to all who have helped build my Pj collection.
speaking as a rocker from the south...quit whining already! next time get in the car and drive. that's what i did, 3500 miles in a week...like L1quid said, are you going to cover their costs for all the south shows that don't sell worth a crap?
Wel here's someone from europe....We waited 6 years and they only played Arnhem for One night!!There were a lot of people from America and parts of Europe that in distance are just as far as you would have needed to travel to see them in another state.The guys gave a hel of a show...and because i want to see them again....iám going to berlin aswell.
I get the fact that your upset...but if it was that bad for you then maybey instead of waiting for them to come to you....you should have done it the other way around ....
Hope you have better luck in 2007
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best news i've heard in weeks.............
Id rather see them inside as well. I think the sound and intensity comes at a higher level. But at this point I will just be happy to see any date in the Raleigh, G-Boro, or Charlotte.
I hope we are in store for some good new at some point.
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"Can't buy what you want because it's free"
Corduroy
Vitalogy
Choices are made, but only you can make them.
You live life, but does it live for you?
Facades pop up in this world everyday.
Only you can decide to see through them or help put another brick in the wall.
make that a double bump
Bumpity bump...Time to get rid of my extra ass humps...Off to exercising I go!
I know the whole isssue of the band not touring the South has been beaten into to the ground already but I feel the need to finally chime in with my two cents or perhaps a dollar. Let me start by saying that Pearl Jam is my favorite band and the only band that I truly care about seeing in concert. I can't even begin to express how upset I am that they aren't performing in the southeast on this tour which is supporting the best CD they've released in years (which is really saying something). I'm even more disappinted in how this entire issue has been handled by a band that claims to care so much for their fans. Like many of you I watched the website, checking the tour dates waiting anxiously to find out where and when they'd be playing in the South. Announcements came..leg 1, leg 2, Europe, Mars but no mention of the South. It wasn't until I finally visited this forum that I discovered the dates for the South simply weren't coming.
I find the fact that this band chose to ignore an entire region of the country ridiculous and the way they handled it totally disrepectful and quite frankly arrogant. I've seen many posts where people mock the situation by asking if the band should list each city they aren't visiting. Obviously nobody would expect this but if you're bypassing a third of the country make it known up front so people can plan accordingly, common sense and simple courtesy come to mind.
Now for the rant...the only excuse I've seen for the band skipping the South is poor ticket sells on previous tours in the region. Sounds funny for a band that has shunned commercialism for so many years, doesn't it? If you want to sell more tickets do more to promote your product and expand radio airplay of your excellent material. Sounds like simple marketing to me, but what do I know? Another solution might be to play fewer venues. For instance in my state, North Carolina, skip Raleigh and Charlotte to play Greensboro which has a very large coliseum located between those two cities (you've been there before, I was in row 16 when you nearly blew the roof off the place). It can't be that difficult guys, it's not like you travel with 20 tractor trailers to put on your "production". My neighbor has more lights and props for Halloween than you do for a show. Not a problem mind you, I care more for the quality of the music than any theatrics, just a point.
Rant finalized...and this is for the band as if they'd read it. Guys, I "drink the kool aid" everytime you offer it. I'm a member of the tenclub strictly for the chance to get decent tickets to see you and this time around I won't even get that chance. I'm married and have 2 kids, I can't afford to jet off somewhere to see my favorite band. I've seen you in concert 9 times here in the South and each time I left amazed, knowing that I'd seen the greatest band ever pour their hearts and souls into their performance. That being said, I've also paid my dues. I've waited for 4 hours in the scorching Atlanta sun to pick up my tickets for your show. I've purchased over a dozen of your bootlegs...to hear one song live, to hear what you played on my birthday and to hear the shows that I attended. I've also purchased all of your terribly produced dvd's, ever hear of focus or professional production? (As a side note, check out the Eagles Farewell Tour dvd to see and hear how well one of your shows could be captured) These things being said, I'm still a Pearl Jam fan and I'll enjoy your music for the rest of my life. I just hope you'll understand and appreciate how hurtful your tour decision has been for many of your fans.
Thanks to those that sponsor this message forum. Whether you agree with my opinions or not is of minor importartance, I'm just glad to finally express what's been running through my head.
So they don't tour near you for a year, big deal. When was the last time Salt Lake City, UT saw them?
Get over it.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Irvine 1992, Las Vegas 1993, Mountain View 1994, San Diego 1995, Los Angeles 1996, Los Angeles 1998, Moutain View 1999, San Bernadino 2000, Los Angeles 2000, Irvine 2003, Irvine 2003, Moutain View 2003, Santa Barbara 2003, San Diego 2006, Los Angeles 2006, Santa Barbara 2006
get over it.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
I bet a lot of people would be grateful to see their favorite band 9 times in their local area.
You saw PJ live 16 times and complaint about waiting 3 years????!!!!!!
OMFG
We were waiting down here 15 years and who knows when they'll return
but only love can brake your fall
true. but, different continent or not, it's been 6 years for those fans.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
have you been drinking tonight?
that's why i usually buy all of the boots from europe, you can hear the love for the band, the appreciation, almost feel the emotion of the crown...if there's any complaining on their part at least i haven't heard it.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
But I agree with Metsfan..Let's see what 2007 has in store for us. Hopefully I will get to see them for the first time close to my hometown. With two kids and a non supportive husband, yes, it's hard to travel to far.
Thanks to quite a few fans here, I've gotten a "taste" of what it will be like the day I do get to see them. So many thanks to all who have helped build my Pj collection.
I get the fact that your upset...but if it was that bad for you then maybey instead of waiting for them to come to you....you should have done it the other way around ....
Hope you have better luck in 2007