Stones vs. Zeppelin

catefrances

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Yep, Zep were derivative. People who think Zep are the greatest of innovators have no sense of music history, and no comparative reference points.

oh who cares if they're derivative, i still like them. bloody rock snobs.

angryyoungman

catefrances wrote:

oh who cares if they're derivative, i still like them. bloody rock snobs.

is this gonna be like the mtv thing with you? ok, here goes. the stones were one of the very first real "rock" bands around, they were kicking around for about 10 years before zep. dont get me wrong i like zep but when i like two bands close to equally i gotta go with the band that was around first

angryyoungman

catefrances wrote:

really? please explain.

do i really have to explain it to you? you cant figure out why there wouldnt be a zepplin wthout the stones? you need to enroll in the school of rock and have jack black go over with you the rock evolutionary tree

catefrances

angryyoungman wrote:

do i really have to explain it to you? you cant figure out why there wouldnt be a zepplin wthout the stones? you need to enroll in the school of rock and have jack black go over with you the rock evolutionary tree

yes you do have to explain it to me. exactly where do the rolling stones fit into the yardbirds/zeppelin family tree.

catefrances

angryyoungman wrote:

is this gonna be like the mtv thing with you? ok, here goes. the stones were one of the very first real "rock" bands around, they were kicking around for about 10 years before zep. dont get me wrong i like zep but when i like two bands close to equally i gotta go with the band that was around first

no this is not going to be like the MTV thing with me. but if you're going to lay down a claim, be specific and support it with clear evidence. don't come back later and say, 'what i meant was...'

and yes as you say the stones may well have been one of the very few first rock bands, but tell me where did their influence come from ?

brain of c

beatles win.

lucylespian

catefrances wrote:

yes you do have to explain it to me. exactly where do the rolling stones fit into the yardbirds/zeppelin family tree.

Yeah, I'm confused here too, just where do teh Stones fit into the Zeppelin story ? sounds like crap to me !! Iknow they ued teh Stone's mobile recording truck and cut some tracks at STargroves, but that is different to musical influence.
At least ZEp had the decency to acknowledge Stu, unlike teh Stones who used him as a roadie !!

lucylespian

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I haven't that much faith in the originality of 99.9% of artists.

The punks were as contrived as todays boy bands, Sex Pistols were put together by MAlcolm McLaren, and totallly image driven.
PAge was far more true to his own vision and Zep's scornig of singles etc was far more "punk " than anything the punks did. and yeah, I'm total crap at manipulating this quote thingy.
You really hate Zep, don't you carrotts ?!!

karma defect

Led zeppelin without a doubt.

erussell

Stones! Got to see Led Zep live after their first album in Asbury Park NJ (yes I'm that old) - never got to see the Stones live (yet), but the Stones have the staying power

funkymonk

I would have to go with the Stones. Don't get me wrong as I love Zeppelin too but there's just something about Mick's vocals and Keith's riffs that do it to me every time.

transplant

Stones. why? Stray Cat Blues, Salt of the Earth and Jigsaw Puzzle.