Kanye West blaming Pearl Jam..

PJ & Bompton

SOLAT319 wrote:

Can you really see EV doing that ??? I mean, I may be biased here but really. If he was an asshole like that it would have been really hard for me to be a fan anyway. We discussed something similar here recently. Oh, I remember. People were bitching about Vedder's political rants on stage. And I said the same thing. I love those rants because that's a part of the live show experience and I happen to share that same point of view. if Pearl Jam was a band, all of whose songs were about bling, cash, partying all night long and "bitches", then I wouldn't have been a fan anyway. So, no, Ed would not do that in the first place. Therefore, there is no reason for a reverse example.

Heh...I was just watching Fuse for bonnaroo coverage as I posted this and saw Jim from MMJ saying he was excited to see Kanye :-)

I have heard numerous people say Ed is a nut and a jackass because of his staunch political views and his views on some other stuff...and if you were referencing Kanye his songs are definitely not bling and cash and "bitches"...

BTW, that is awesome that Jim said that...

TransplantedNewf

culot4 wrote:

Any guy with balls enough to do what he did on that telethon/fund raiser is ok in my book. It probably wasn't in his best interest to act like a Mariah Carrey crybaby diva at a festival like that though where its pretty obvious the only reason he is there is to collect a pay day..

I don't think what he said at the telethon had anything to do with balls. More like, a lot of emotion with a dash of stupidity

slightofjeff

Krisdababe wrote:

I don't think what he said at the telethon had anything to do with balls. More like, a lot of emotion with a dash of stupidity

Yeah, honestly, that was neither the time nor the place.

culot4

Krisdababe wrote:

I don't think what he said at the telethon had anything to do with balls. More like, a lot of emotion with a dash of stupidity

No, it was balls. He just said what everyone was sort of thinking in their own disappointment in how Katrina was handled. You don't just go calling out the President without having a pair of stones.

slightofjeff

culot4 wrote:

No, it was balls. He just said what everyone was sort of thinking in their own disappointment in how Katrina was handled. You don't just go calling out the President without having a pair of stones.

I still say it was neither the time nor the place.

If for no other reason, you are risking turning off a whole lot of people who might have otherwise donated to the telethon. Obviously, that's a bad reason not to give, but I can imagine it had that effect on some people.

He shouldn't have done it there, at a charity event. By making that statement there, Kanye probably hurt the cause he was trying to support.

Chris1401

Getting back to this issue...I don't think it was 100 percent PJ's fault. Yea they went over their time...big deal, it happened everyday at the Roo.

It seems like Kayne's ultra-cool "set" had something to do with this too:

The delay was caused by problems setting up West's elaborate stage set, which included an interplanetary landscape of a wavy black platform with a slanted floor in the middle and a video screen above. West performed a spectacular galactic-themed concert complete with interaction with his spaceship, a disembodied female voice named Jane (a kind of sexier HAL).

culot4

slightofjeff wrote:

I still say it was neither the time nor the place.

If for no other reason, you are risking turning off a whole lot of people who might have otherwise donated to the telethon. Obviously, that's a bad reason not to give, but I can imagine it had that effect on some people.

He shouldn't have done it there, at a charity event. By making that statement there, Kanye probably hurt the cause he was trying to support.

See, I think it accomplished the exact opposite. If Kanye didn't do it there without all of white America watching, where else was he going to have another platform like that. It was shocking and unexpected, but it was also a very pointed criticism about Bush's America. If nothing else that look on Mike Myer's face was priceless.

SENROCK

KANYE CAN SUCK MY.........OH WAIT :eek:

slightofjeff

culot4 wrote:

See, I think it accomplished the exact opposite. If Kanye didn't do it there without all of white America watching, where else was he going to have another platform like that. It was shocking and unexpected, but it was also a very pointed criticism about Bush's America. If nothing else that look on Mike Myer's face was priceless.

But at the same time, how many conservative white Americans who were about to write a check had the knee-jerk reaction of saying, "Fuck that" and ripping up the check?

I guarantee there were some. At it isn't right -- you shouldn't blame New Orleans for Kanye's poor judgment. But I'd be willing to bet it happened.

A charity telethon just isn't the place to make political points. You don't offend people in one breath and ask for money with the next.

NOCODE#1

MattyJoe wrote:

Fuck him. He'll never in his life do a show as good as what Pearl Jam did before him.

he's at least as talented as pj. hip live to rock live is apples and oranges.

Smellyman2

NOCODE#1 wrote:

he's at least as talented as pj. hip live to rock live is apples and oranges.

PJ's oranges are way more talented than his apples

grjammer

Kanye West is irrelevant...

Jellyrolls

Smellyman wrote:

PJ's oranges are way more talented than his apples

Lol I have been proven tonight that what I have heard about a certain somebodys fans are the worst ever.

PJ & Bompton

grjammer wrote:

Kanye West is irrelevant...

uhhhh, we are in the year 2008 right?

mca47

I wonder what Kanye will be doing in 5 years...

CitizenRick

Waaaaaa! Sorry Kanye....you're not the first band/performer to get blown off the stage by Pearl Jam. If you and your people did your research maybe this could have been avoided.

BTW...hey Metalica (mostly Lars)...how does it feel to be hit by the locomotive named Pearl Jam?

Bravesfan21

Jellyrolls wrote:

Are you saying that stuff is all Kanye raps about? If so, you really shouldn't be bashing Kanye being as how you have no idea what he does or is about.

That guy is the most materialistic pompous piece of shit. I have never seen anyone who thought their shit didn't stink as much as that guy. He cries like a small child because his record didn't win the grammy for best album and was sulking. The guy is a joke.

CitizenRick

SOLAT319 wrote:

He was probably pretending to like the set when he was out'n about, then when back in his little tour bus or whatever, he probably just bitched about how Metallica rocked harder than Pearl Jam. Now, now, we should be nicer to our hometown boys :-P

I know...but that little drummer boy never misses an opportunity to take his shots at PJ and their "disconnect with their fans".

This guy is a moron!

I still enjoy a Metallica tune or two...but this guy is living in his own little world.

PJ & Bompton

Bravesfan21 wrote:

That guy is the most materialistic pompous piece of shit. I have never seen anyone who thought their shit didn't stink as much as that guy. He cries like a small child because his record didn't win the grammy for best album and was sulking. The guy is a joke.

If you pour your heart and soul into something and believe it should win which it should have then what is the problem? He has a right to think however he wants if he (along with tons of others) believe he should've won album of the year that is his right and like he said he is not crazy because noone agrees with a crazy person ALOT of people agree with the stuff Mr. West believes in...

slightofjeff

PJ & Bompton wrote:

If you pour your heart and soul into something and believe it should win which it should have then what is the problem? He has a right to think however he wants if he (along with tons of others) believe he should've won album of the year that is his right and like he said he is not crazy because noone agrees with a crazy person ALOT of people agree with the stuff Mr. West believes in...

Everybody pours their heart and soul into their music. By making a big deal when you lose, you are disrespecting other people's music, which is completely uncool.

You shouldn't need awards to validate your work, anyway.

I admire your respect for Kanye's music ... but the guy IS a major tool. I really don't see any way to logically defend him.