By the way, I was a walking Who encyclopedia back in the early eighties. They were my favourite band. Then I reached the age of twelve, and grew up.
Uh, Mr/Ms Encyclopedic Knowledge, you say that Quad produced no singles but I believe you've overlooked "Love, Reign O'er Me" and "Real Me" (released in US and now considered by many to be PJ songs) and "5.15" (released in UK).
As stated previously I got into The Who at 13 so somehow I never outgrew them. But I can see if you didn't discover them till the 80s how it could happen.
Uh, Mr/Ms Encyclopedic Knowledge, you say that Quad produced no singles but I believe you've overlooked "Love, Reign O'er Me" and "Real Me" (released in US and now considered by many to be PJ songs) and "5.15" (released in UK).
As stated previously I got into The Who at 13 so somehow I never outgrew them. But I can see if you didn't discover them till the 80s how it could happen.
I was only thinking of UK singles. Billboard counts any old crap.
Well, I forgot I had the 5:15 single, on Polydor. It's still not a patch on another 1973 single, Relay/Waspman.
Uh, Mr/Ms Encyclopedic Knowledge, you say that Quad produced no singles but I believe you've overlooked "Love, Reign O'er Me" and "Real Me" (released in US and now considered by many to be PJ songs) and "5.15" (released in UK).
As stated previously I got into The Who at 13 so somehow I never outgrew them. But I can see if you didn't discover them till the 80s how it could happen.
I'm actually the one that said that
But I just meant that it didn't produce any really popular singles, not that there weren't any released. Coming off "Who's Next", Quad didn't really have a hit single... although the album did very well... but I digress
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But I just meant that it didn't produce any really popular singles, not that there weren't any released. Coming off "Who's Next", Quad didn't really have a hit single... although the album did very well... but I digress
I know. But FinsburyParkCarrots was quoting you and agreeing so as to make his point that Quad was no good, as well as saying that he was a former walking Who encyclopedia, so I just thought I'd point out that the album did have some singles released. But now I'm digressing too.
The important thing is that Quad is a brilliant album.
I reckon....the one and only reason they get so many fuckin plaudits around here is because Eddie Vedder loves them so much.
Aint that the truth ? You all know it is.
This made me laugh, like we are all sheep that like whatever a lead singer of a certain band endorses. I guess The Who were never popular or held in high esteem until Eddie gushed praise on them.
they were an ok band, thay had some great songs...but they were very patchy, very hit and miss at times, and quite frankly went on far too long...not to mention the numerous changes in style they undertook in order to try sustain some popularity and success. Like I said, they had some great songs, but overall.....not all they're cracked up to be.
I reckon....the one and only reason they get so many fuckin plaudits around here is because Eddie Vedder loves them so much.
Aint that the truth ? You all know it is.
They're his favourite band, not ours....
...
I'll disagree... here's why.
I grew up in that period... late 60s/early 70s (1969-1973)... and there was a lot of great music back then. The Who contributed greatly to that period with 'Tommy', 'Who's Next' and 'Quadrophenia'. So did Zeppelin with 'I' through 'IV' and 'Houses Of The Holy'... Floyd with 'Meddle' and 'Dark Side of The Moon'. Think of different colors that make up a great painting... that's what it was like.
But, as a 'Rock Concert'... The Who was the greatest band I ever saw. Granted, i never saw the Stone in that period, so for me... it was hands down, The Who that was everything a rock concert should be.
Zeppelin had those really long guitar, drum and (ugh) bass solos and Floyd was a great theatrical show... but The Who was pure, basic rock.
I have yet to see a band that can hold a candle to the Who's live shows in that period.
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This is such an ignorant statement I don't even know where to begin.
Do you mean ignorant in the sense that I've never listened to any Who albums?
Because you'd be wrong.
Do you mean ignorant in that I don't realize that The Who MUST (in your opinion) be considered an album band because they did "rock operas" and "concept albums"?
I realize they did that. But, honestly, many of the songs on The Who Sell Out, Tommy, and Quadrophenia stink. They're only good at writing individual songs that are good, not whole albums. There's no Who album that I can say I love every song from it, the way I do about Vs., for example.
And I have nothing against a good concept album. Animals by Pink Floyd is an EXCELLENT album, one of my favorite albums ever.
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Meh, The Who are just alright for me. I tried getting into them a lot through different albums, but in the end, it was just a some songs that stuck out for me, not whole albums. They are a solid rock band though, but I prefer other bands from that era.
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do you remember when Roger was on the show "highlander?" I did not really notice roger on there, I liked the main character.
I caught him on a rerun of it once or I don't think I would have realized he was on that show.
I don't usually watch CSI but after hearing so many people talk about the episode that Roger was in I had to watch just so I could see him play a black woman! :eek: :rolleyes:
I reckon....the one and only reason they get so many fuckin plaudits around here is because Eddie Vedder loves them so much.
Aint that the truth ? You all know it is.
They're his favourite band, not ours....
Sorry pal, but The Who is my favorite band, has been for 31 years. So don't think you know what the hell you're talking about.
the main dude in the who is pete. if you don't know pete's work then it's hard to give full credit to the who, especially without knowing what pete is really all about. the word genius, comes to my mind...
empty glass
white city
psychoderelict
deep end live
chinese eyes
even if you don't credit the who you just simply can't ignore pete....as a singer, songwriter, guitar player, he is in the top five.
I caught him on a rerun of it once or I don't think I would have realized he was on that show.
I don't usually watch CSI but after hearing so many people talk about the episode that Roger was in I had to watch just so I could see him play a black woman! :eek: :rolleyes:
I remember seeing him in an episode of Tales from the Crypt.
Sorry pal, but The Who is my favorite band, has been for 31 years. So don't think you know what the hell you're talking about.
Well, good on you. They're lots of folks favourite band I'm sure, I was hinting that here (pj message pit) even though they get lots of plaudits, I wonder how many folks only know the covers that pj do?
Of course all the big Who fans are coming to defend themselves, why wouldn't you? Doesn't mean my point is wrong, or not valid.
What I am getting is that lots of you are in the US, maybe that's it, because here they aint all that big a deal really.
Well, good on you. They're lots of folks favourite band I'm sure, I was hinting that here (pj message pit) even though they get lots of plaudits, I wonder how many folks only know the covers that pj do?
Of course all the big Who fans are coming to defend themselves, why wouldn't you? Doesn't mean my point is wrong, or not valid.
What I am getting is that lots of you are in the US, maybe that's it, because here they aint all that big a deal really.
My dad loves em and he's English... so there!
Just kidding.
You're right. I mean it's not likely we're going to get miriads of casual Who fans come into the thread and prove you right (they'd be too embarrassed) or wrong (they wouldn't have the knowledge about The Who to do so).
The only long-time fans of The Who on the Pit, are probably on this thread. Even then they'd be a small minority.
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Do you mean ignorant in the sense that I've never listened to any Who albums?
Because you'd be wrong.
Do you mean ignorant in that I don't realize that The Who MUST (in your opinion) be considered an album band because they did "rock operas" and "concept albums"?
I realize they did that. But, honestly, many of the songs on The Who Sell Out, Tommy, and Quadrophenia stink. They're only good at writing individual songs that are good, not whole albums. There's no Who album that I can say I love every song from it, the way I do about Vs., for example.
And I have nothing against a good concept album. Animals by Pink Floyd is an EXCELLENT album, one of my favorite albums ever.
You're wrong, a singles band focuses on singles. The Who focused on albums for a but three years of their careers.
Plus those albums are wonderful albums, you may not think so, but you're in the minority. I will give you this, you've done a good deal of reasearch, but your opinion still sucks.
I just wanna know how the hell Pete got away with having all that kiddy porn. That should have been some prison time.
know your facts before you make comments like that. it was proved it a court of law that he had it cause he was writing a book on it or something. maybe the who princess can say more bout it. and how dare you say pete shoulda gotten jail time for it, hes done alot for childrens foundation
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On the dry and dusty road
The nights we spent apart alone
I need to get back home
To cool cool rain
LONG LIVE THE WHO! BE DEAD OR ALIVE
i'll ride the wave where it take me, i'll hold the pain release meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
You're right. I mean it's not likely we're going to get miriads of casual Who fans come into the thread and prove you right (they'd be too embarrassed) or wrong (they wouldn't have the knowledge about The Who to do so).
The only long-time fans of The Who on the Pit, are probably on this thread. Even then they'd be a small minority.
yeah, and I did mention that I quite like em.
It's just recently, all this 'oh they're so influential and original and........" that I don't really understand. I never felt the need to own a Who album other than a compilation, I like their singles, I found the film Tommy rather, erm crap, and Quadrophenia to me was just a rock nostalgia movie....I'm not trying to get up anyones arse here, I just always found them, whilst being a decent enough band, shall I say...a bit desperate. They changed their musical style so much, to me that isn't about invention so much as it's about chasing sales and popularity...maybe I'm wrong...nah, course I'm not.
Mcvicar was ok though ....
and 'I'm just walking the dog' was ground breaking
I grew up on The Who. I love this band completely. I understand people not liking them, that is fine, i mean musical tastes are personal...but some of what has been written here has floored me.
especially the idea that Love Reign O'er Me sounds better as the cover...um wow.
yeah, I don't think I can say anything polite about some ofwhat has been written here about The Who...so, just absolutely shocked...
by the way - I don't think that most Who fans are even all that aware of Pearl Jam...to be honest...it is kind of funny for me to read claims that PJ led to the Who... I suppose it led some younger people to the Who...but the music will clutch at you...
I don't think the respect given to the Who (even on this board which is full of Eddie-worshippers) is misplaced.
personally there are a LOT of bands that Eddie Vedder seems to think are amazing that i listen to and cringe...I find no value to their music, but I wouldn't claim that this is a TRUTH for others...
sleater kinney comes to mind...hahahaa
aye...still just shocked...I mean, have you NOT HEARD the entire quadrophenia album? sigh...mkay...mkay...I guess that means more Who for me.
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they were an ok band, thay had some great songs...but they were very patchy, very hit and miss at times, and quite frankly went on far too long...not to mention the numerous changes in style they undertook in order to try sustain some popularity and success. Like I said, they had some great songs, but overall.....not all they're cracked up to be.
I reckon....the one and only reason they get so many fuckin plaudits around here is because Eddie Vedder loves them so much.
Aint that the truth ? You all know it is.
They're his favourite band, not ours....
They were probably one of the top live bands when they were in their prime and their music catalog is timeless. Many of us on this forum were born before the late 80's and 90's and have appreciated The Who years before Pearl Jam were around.
Clearly you're trying to start something with this post because it makes no sense if you truly do appreciate rock n' roll. Next you're going to tell us that Zeppelin is nothing but a glorified garage band.
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Well, good on you. They're lots of folks favourite band I'm sure, I was hinting that here (pj message pit) even though they get lots of plaudits, I wonder how many folks only know the covers that pj do?
Of course all the big Who fans are coming to defend themselves, why wouldn't you? Doesn't mean my point is wrong, or not valid.
What I am getting is that lots of you are in the US, maybe that's it, because here they aint all that big a deal really.
I’m kind of surprised to hear you say that The Who isn’t very big in the UK because that’s not the impression I get from reading concert reviews or stories in the British press. During their tour last year their shows in England and Ireland were packed. They were the headliners at the Glastonbury music festival, which is one of the biggest music festivals in the country and where most of the acts were newer, popular bands. When the Amazing Journey DVD was released last fall it topped the UK charts even though the Beatles’ Help and Led Zeppelin’s Song Remains the Same had just been released on DVD. The band appeared on the TV show Later with Jools Holland and performed 4 songs. I’ve never seen any other act that performed more than 3. They seem to be popular in a different way in England since they’re still thought of as 60s band and part of the mod movement, but interest in that era seems to cycle in and out.
yeah, and I did mention that I quite like em.
It's just recently, all this 'oh they're so influential and original and........" that I don't really understand. I never felt the need to own a Who album other than a compilation, I like their singles, I found the film Tommy rather, erm crap, and Quadrophenia to me was just a rock nostalgia movie....I'm not trying to get up anyones arse here, I just always found them, whilst being a decent enough band, shall I say...a bit desperate. They changed their musical style so much, to me that isn't about invention so much as it's about chasing sales and popularity...maybe I'm wrong...nah, course I'm not.
I don’t care for the Tommy film and while I have some affection for the Quad movie, it’s a very separate thing from The Who’s album. If you’ve only listened to compilations I can also see why you might feel the way you do. Who albums take time to get into much the way PJ’s albums do. There are many people who don’t like By Numbers but it’s one of my favorite Who albums. You’d think it would appeal to all those people who were tired of the concept albums. Go figure. For those who think that Who Are You wasn’t a good album, I’ll admit the quality is mixed. I will say it’s unique for having 3 of John’s songs.
I'm not really sure what you mean by desperate though. Maybe you could explain that a little better? Or about changing their style so much. They don't seem to have changed it that much to me over the years other than things such as adding synthesizers in the early 70s. Again, I'm thinking if you've only listened to compilations that may be how it appears.
I’ve already said that there are people who think The Who were never the same after Keith’s death. It’s easy to point to that one event and say that it changed everything but I think it’s much more complicated than that. For one thing, Keith’s problems had been going on a long time. The other members of the band had realized there was the possibility of something happening to him. That was why they were ready to continue after his death.
The 1979-80 tour was a critical time for the band. I saw them on that tour and like a lot of people I was skeptical. They had a lot to prove and they knew it. They were on fire and it remains one of the most memorable Who shows for me.
But when people talk about how the band fell off during that time, they overlook other things. By the late 70s Pete had lapsed into serious alcohol and drug addiction. It affected not just his musical ability but also his commitment to the band. Others have commented in this thread on Pete’s solo albums. By the 80s, Pete had begun holding back his best songs for his solo work rather than sharing them with The Who. His albums Empty Glass (1980) and Chinese Eyes (1982) have some of the best Who songs that The Who never recorded.
And the 2 albums that the band did release during that time, Face Dances and It's Hard, don't sound particularly Whoish. I'm not big fans of either of them for that reason. But they still might have been recorded, even if Keith had lived. They just would have had really bitchin drumming on them.
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As stated previously I got into The Who at 13 so somehow I never outgrew them. But I can see if you didn't discover them till the 80s how it could happen.
I was only thinking of UK singles. Billboard counts any old crap.
Well, I forgot I had the 5:15 single, on Polydor. It's still not a patch on another 1973 single, Relay/Waspman.
And I'm a big hairy bloke.
I'm actually the one that said that
But I just meant that it didn't produce any really popular singles, not that there weren't any released. Coming off "Who's Next", Quad didn't really have a hit single... although the album did very well... but I digress
And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
The important thing is that Quad is a brilliant album.
This made me laugh, like we are all sheep that like whatever a lead singer of a certain band endorses. I guess The Who were never popular or held in high esteem until Eddie gushed praise on them.
(still waiting for Pearl Jam to cover Run Runaway)
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do you remember when Roger was on the show "highlander?" I did not really notice roger on there, I liked the main character.
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I'll disagree... here's why.
I grew up in that period... late 60s/early 70s (1969-1973)... and there was a lot of great music back then. The Who contributed greatly to that period with 'Tommy', 'Who's Next' and 'Quadrophenia'. So did Zeppelin with 'I' through 'IV' and 'Houses Of The Holy'... Floyd with 'Meddle' and 'Dark Side of The Moon'. Think of different colors that make up a great painting... that's what it was like.
But, as a 'Rock Concert'... The Who was the greatest band I ever saw. Granted, i never saw the Stone in that period, so for me... it was hands down, The Who that was everything a rock concert should be.
Zeppelin had those really long guitar, drum and (ugh) bass solos and Floyd was a great theatrical show... but The Who was pure, basic rock.
I have yet to see a band that can hold a candle to the Who's live shows in that period.
Hail, Hail!!!
Do you mean ignorant in the sense that I've never listened to any Who albums?
Because you'd be wrong.
Do you mean ignorant in that I don't realize that The Who MUST (in your opinion) be considered an album band because they did "rock operas" and "concept albums"?
I realize they did that. But, honestly, many of the songs on The Who Sell Out, Tommy, and Quadrophenia stink. They're only good at writing individual songs that are good, not whole albums. There's no Who album that I can say I love every song from it, the way I do about Vs., for example.
And I have nothing against a good concept album. Animals by Pink Floyd is an EXCELLENT album, one of my favorite albums ever.
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I don't usually watch CSI but after hearing so many people talk about the episode that Roger was in I had to watch just so I could see him play a black woman! :eek: :rolleyes:
Sorry pal, but The Who is my favorite band, has been for 31 years. So don't think you know what the hell you're talking about.
empty glass
white city
psychoderelict
deep end live
chinese eyes
even if you don't credit the who you just simply can't ignore pete....as a singer, songwriter, guitar player, he is in the top five.
I remember seeing him in an episode of Tales from the Crypt.
Well, good on you. They're lots of folks favourite band I'm sure, I was hinting that here (pj message pit) even though they get lots of plaudits, I wonder how many folks only know the covers that pj do?
Of course all the big Who fans are coming to defend themselves, why wouldn't you? Doesn't mean my point is wrong, or not valid.
What I am getting is that lots of you are in the US, maybe that's it, because here they aint all that big a deal really.
My dad loves em and he's English... so there!
Just kidding.
You're right. I mean it's not likely we're going to get miriads of casual Who fans come into the thread and prove you right (they'd be too embarrassed) or wrong (they wouldn't have the knowledge about The Who to do so).
The only long-time fans of The Who on the Pit, are probably on this thread. Even then they'd be a small minority.
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the records are hit or miss, but pete is one if the all time greats.
I think someone needs to go do some research
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Because he DIDN'T HAVE ANY, genius.
You're wrong, a singles band focuses on singles. The Who focused on albums for a but three years of their careers.
Plus those albums are wonderful albums, you may not think so, but you're in the minority. I will give you this, you've done a good deal of reasearch, but your opinion still sucks.
On the dry and dusty road
The nights we spent apart alone
I need to get back home
To cool cool rain
LONG LIVE THE WHO! BE DEAD OR ALIVE
i'll ride the wave where it take me, i'll hold the pain release meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
It's just recently, all this 'oh they're so influential and original and........" that I don't really understand. I never felt the need to own a Who album other than a compilation, I like their singles, I found the film Tommy rather, erm crap, and Quadrophenia to me was just a rock nostalgia movie....I'm not trying to get up anyones arse here, I just always found them, whilst being a decent enough band, shall I say...a bit desperate. They changed their musical style so much, to me that isn't about invention so much as it's about chasing sales and popularity...maybe I'm wrong...nah, course I'm not.
Mcvicar was ok though
and 'I'm just walking the dog' was ground breaking
I grew up on The Who. I love this band completely. I understand people not liking them, that is fine, i mean musical tastes are personal...but some of what has been written here has floored me.
especially the idea that Love Reign O'er Me sounds better as the cover...um wow.
yeah, I don't think I can say anything polite about some ofwhat has been written here about The Who...so, just absolutely shocked...
by the way - I don't think that most Who fans are even all that aware of Pearl Jam...to be honest...it is kind of funny for me to read claims that PJ led to the Who... I suppose it led some younger people to the Who...but the music will clutch at you...
I don't think the respect given to the Who (even on this board which is full of Eddie-worshippers) is misplaced.
personally there are a LOT of bands that Eddie Vedder seems to think are amazing that i listen to and cringe...I find no value to their music, but I wouldn't claim that this is a TRUTH for others...
sleater kinney comes to mind...hahahaa
aye...still just shocked...I mean, have you NOT HEARD the entire quadrophenia album? sigh...mkay...mkay...I guess that means more Who for me.
They were probably one of the top live bands when they were in their prime and their music catalog is timeless. Many of us on this forum were born before the late 80's and 90's and have appreciated The Who years before Pearl Jam were around.
Clearly you're trying to start something with this post because it makes no sense if you truly do appreciate rock n' roll. Next you're going to tell us that Zeppelin is nothing but a glorified garage band.
I'm not really sure what you mean by desperate though. Maybe you could explain that a little better? Or about changing their style so much. They don't seem to have changed it that much to me over the years other than things such as adding synthesizers in the early 70s. Again, I'm thinking if you've only listened to compilations that may be how it appears.
I’ve already said that there are people who think The Who were never the same after Keith’s death. It’s easy to point to that one event and say that it changed everything but I think it’s much more complicated than that. For one thing, Keith’s problems had been going on a long time. The other members of the band had realized there was the possibility of something happening to him. That was why they were ready to continue after his death.
The 1979-80 tour was a critical time for the band. I saw them on that tour and like a lot of people I was skeptical. They had a lot to prove and they knew it. They were on fire and it remains one of the most memorable Who shows for me.
But when people talk about how the band fell off during that time, they overlook other things. By the late 70s Pete had lapsed into serious alcohol and drug addiction. It affected not just his musical ability but also his commitment to the band. Others have commented in this thread on Pete’s solo albums. By the 80s, Pete had begun holding back his best songs for his solo work rather than sharing them with The Who. His albums Empty Glass (1980) and Chinese Eyes (1982) have some of the best Who songs that The Who never recorded.
And the 2 albums that the band did release during that time, Face Dances and It's Hard, don't sound particularly Whoish. I'm not big fans of either of them for that reason. But they still might have been recorded, even if Keith had lived. They just would have had really bitchin drumming on them.