this is VERY backwards. they're actually average musicians with great songs.
proof: stage antics of keith moon destroying drums. pete destroying his guitar. pete doing the whole "windmill" routine. AND pete was playing with feedback way before anybody else because, technically, he wasn't that great of a guitar player.
petes more of a songwriter than a guitar virtuoso. he was the first person (or the who was the first band if you want to put it that way) to successfully incorporate the synthesizer into rock and roll music.
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Have you ever actually seen Pete Townshend play? He's an amazing songwriter to be sure, but he didn't need to hide behind anything- the man is plenty talented.
petes more of a songwriter than a guitar virtuoso. he was the first person (or the who was the first band if you want to put it that way) to successfully incorporate the synthesizer into rock and roll music.
Personally, I love The Who. But this argument (like all discussions about the greatness of any band) is between subjective taste vs. objective worth. I can completely understand why folks would not like The Who. Their music is not all that straightforward, the bass is prominent in a way that is not typical, Keith Moon's drumming is not straightforward at all, Pete's songwriting can be somewhat melodramatic and overwrought, etc. However, to attempt to draw objective conclusions based on your own personal tastes just doesn't hold water, imho. You may not personally like The Who, but to claim that they are not hugely influential, or to claim that all Pearl Jam fans only like them b/c of Eddie is fallacious.
Also, I would say in terms of popularity, influence, radio play, and general public knowledge and acknowledgement, The Who are indeed on the same level as Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and The Rolling Stones. One only has to see their influence on punk, progressive rock, 'arena' rock, and their role in helping to create the "classic rock" sound which is a dominate radio format in the US. You're more likely to hear The Who on classic rock radio than The Beatles or The Stones. That, to me, says something about their continuing relevance.
And, to add my own .02 about a somewhat irrelevant topic raised earlier - I cannot understand all the adulation for The Velvet Underground. I really find them unlistenable. But some feel that way about The Who...oh well, to each their own...
I think the original poster might be about 15 years old. DOn't be too hard on him.
Oh joy, I'm 15 again :rolleyes:...so who is it making the sweeping statements, with no homework ?
I'll say again....the Who are a decent band, but I don't see they're that great, and I reckon a lot (not all) of the adulation they get around here (as in pearl jam message pit) is because Ed V loves em and bangs on about how good they are,... and the covers of course.
I got into Niel Young because of Pearl Jam, now I love his albums, I dont have them all, about a dozen though and I'd say I like him as much as I like PJ....whatever, I still won't have it about the Who being all that......
Have you ever actually seen Pete Townshend play? He's an amazing songwriter to be sure, but he didn't need to hide behind anything- the man is plenty talented.
yes i've seen him play - and i stand by what i said. certainly over the years he's gotten much better... back in '64 when the band wasn't even The Who but The Detours... Pete was very average at the guitar... hence all the gimmicks... he's pretty much grown into that talent.
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And, to add my own .02 about a somewhat irrelevant topic raised earlier - I cannot understand all the adulation for The Velvet Underground. I really find them unlistenable. But some feel that way about The Who...oh well, to each their own...
give the vu another chance. they are easily one of my all time favorite bands and like i said before the who are my favorite 'classic rock' band. i think lou and pete have alot in common in their approach to music. if you really like the who i think it would be odd not to like vu at least alittle.
I really think 'Who Are You?' is the most painful and embarrassing listen I can think of.....
.... if one can actually think of a listen.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
first off, learn to spell NEIL's name right. second, the who get adulation around here for the same reason they get adulation everywhere else.....
they are one of the greatest rock bands in history. period. and i'm sorry, but pearl jam is nowhere near their level, and never will be.
What's in a name squire ? If being pedantic is the best you can come up with, don't even bother.
The Who are not one of the great classic rock bands, they dissapeared up their own arses for 20 years, then realised they wanted to be the Who again...and somewhere along the line managed to persuade everyone they were better than we all remembered......
fuck this.
What's in a name squire ? If being pedantic is the best you can come up with, don't even bother.
The Who are not one of the great classic rock bands, they dissapeared up their own arses for 20 years, then realised they wanted to be the Who again...and somewhere along the line managed to persuade everyone they were better than we all remembered......
fuck this.
disappeared for 20 years? when was this? they have been touring since the 60's with the longest break being 4 years. and a great classic rock band is what they are, whether you like them or not. thats like saying nirvana isnt a great grunge band. nirvana might not be great in the grand scheme of rock bands, but nirvana is one of the bands that define what grunge is, just like the who helped to define what classic rock is. ask most people the who will come up just as much as skynyrd, floyd, zeppelin, ac/dc, stones, eagles, you name it. the who didnt sell millions of records because evenflow got played on mtv. the who sold millions of records because people like what they heard, time and time again.
disappeared for 20 years? when was this? they have been touring since the 60's with the longest break being 4 years. and a great classic rock band is what they are, whether you like them or not. thats like saying nirvana isnt a great grunge band. nirvana might not be great in the grand scheme of rock bands, but nirvana is one of the bands that define what grunge is, just like the who helped to define what classic rock is. ask most people the who will come up just as much as skynyrd, floyd, zeppelin, ac/dc, stones, eagles, you name it. the who didnt sell millions of records because evenflow got played on mtv. the who sold millions of records because people like what they heard, time and time again.
yeah, they may not have dissapeared, more like went quiet whilst trying to make solo records, films, sound like a different sort of band..whatever. Then they kinda went...."OOOH, we're the Who...remember us?"
I'll say again, I really love some of their tracks, Moony was an exquisite percussionist, after that...avereage to me (to me...) and Townsend......he makes my skin creep, as I said earlier.
yeah, they may not have dissapeared, more like went quiet whilst trying to make solo records, films, sound like a different sort of band..whatever. Then they kinda went...."OOOH, we're the Who...remember us?"
I'll say again, I really love some of their tracks, Moony was an exquisite percussionist, after that...avereage to me (to me...) and Townsend......he makes my skin creep, as I said earlier.
pete seems alittle creepy to me too....i still dont buy the whole pedo story. but the who have been touring, not solo stuff, but the who. they may have dropped off the radar, until recently. but if you followed the who they stayed some what active their entire career, or those left in the who. i dont think the who did anything differently to sell tickets from the late 80s, to the 90s, to the present tours. i dont have the facts, but im willing to bet that during all these tours the who sold out the same venues they are still doing today. maybe im wrong.
though i must say the police seem to fall into that 'ohh remember us?' deal. but thats a whole other topic.
say what you'd like about your own opinions, but do NOT speak for others. no-one in their right mind with a knowledge of rock and roll can deny the who's place in history. if you don't like them fine - that's you...
you know i mentioned this earlier - there seems to be a lot of speak by people who don't really know what they're talking about.
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Loved the Who before I had ever heard of Pearl Jam. Been to a couple shows and was not that impressed, but they are a part of my musical history, growing up and finding my love of Rock n Roll. I'm sure if I saw them circa 1970's I would be Ga Ga over them. I would rate them in the top 15 of my favorite artists of all time.
Do I like that PJ loves them..... Hell yeah. I get to hear kick ass Who Songs from my favorite band in concert.
So far:
Love Reign O'er Me
The Real Me
The Kids Are Alright (Ed Solo)
The Seeker (Ed Solo)
Baba O'Riley
Keep em' coming boys!!!!
P.S. Loves me some Kinks. Wish the boys would play some of that. Hmmmm how would that sound?
I was gonna stay out of this thread cuz I thought it would just piss me off but it didn’t. It did give me a lot to respond to.
I’ll admit I’m biased. The Who are my favorite band and I was into them long before I was into Pearl Jam . . . because Pearl Jam didn’t exist when I started listening to them. I’ve loved The Who since I heard “I Can See for Miles” in 1967 when I was 13. I saw them live in their heyday and I saw them as recently as the VH1 Rock Honors. Most of their albums have to grow on you but I’d say that Quad is the best. Pete Townshend considers it his masterwork. “Love, Reign O’er Me” and “The Real Me” are 2 of the great songs on there but I’d suggest giving a listen to some others: “The Punk and the Godfather,” “5:15,” “Sea and Sand,” “Drowned,” and one that easily gets lost in the crashing drums and pounding bass, “I’m One.”
As a long time fan I’ve had to answer a bazillion questions or hear all the arguments and complaints about how they’re irrelevant or carried on past their time. I can’t speak for the people who’ve posted in this thread but many of the people who tell me they should have hung it up when Keith died are too young to have seen the band perform when he was still alive. Moonie was incredible but he was also troubled. If he had lived, would he have sobered up? Would he have stayed with the band? Over the period of 45 years a band can be expected to go through personnel changes, in fact, frequently over shorter periods than that (for example, say, Pearl Jam?). Do musicians have a right to keep their band together, doing what they love? As for helping John Entwistle out financially, he didn’t ask for money—he asked his mates to take the band on tour to help him out. He liked living a rock star’s lifestyle but he also loved performing. Unfortunately, he also liked living to excess and we lost him too. Should the band have quit after John’s death? Pete later explained why they continued but my feeling is that he explained it a little late in the game. I don’t agree with everything Pete says and does.
No, Pete isn’t a brilliant guitarist. Not in the league of Hendrix, Clapton, Jeff Beck, or many others. But he’s an incredible songwriter and influential artist. His music has changed and evolved over time because he stretches his limits and constantly tries new things. I’m always amazed at the different artists he says he is listening to. However, that doesn’t mean I start listening to them.
What I mostly don’t understand about your initial post, jamie uk, is its purpose. If you don’t like The Who, just don’t listen to them. I think there’s no denying their influence on popular music in the 60s and 70s. But they’ve accomplished just about every musical feat there is so they can get along without your approval. Why the need to slam them?
And I’m truly sorry you find Pete “creepy.” One thing I’ve enjoyed about Pete over the years is his sense of humor, which comes through in his banter on stage and his witty responses whenever he’s interviewed. He and Roger are very successful at this stage in life but they’re not nearly as wealthy as they could be because they do so many benefit shows for their charities. Before the VH1 show, about 50 of the Wholigans had a pre-party on the UCLA campus. It was a fundraiser for the children of a Who fan who died in February of breast cancer. We had about 5 minutes notice and then Pete walked in. He spoke very briefly, thanked us for being so generous, autographed some posters to be auctioned, and left after about 10 minutes. He was modest, almost shy, very funny, and completely down to earth. We learned afterwards that his security people didn’t want him to come but he insisted on doing it. So yeah, I’m biased.
Before the VH1 show, about 50 of the Wholigans had a pre-party on the UCLA campus. It was a fundraiser for the children of a Who fan who died in February of breast cancer. We had about 5 minutes notice and then Pete walked in. He spoke very briefly, thanked us for being so generous, autographed some posters to be auctioned, and left after about 10 minutes. He was modest, almost shy, very funny, and completely down to earth. We learned afterwards that his security people didn’t want him to come but he insisted on doing it. So yeah, I’m biased.
nice story
PLAY THE GORGE IN 08 YOU PUSSIES
On the dry and dusty road
The nights we spent apart alone
I need to get back home
To cool cool rain
LONG LIVE THE WHO! BE DEAD OR ALIVE
i'll ride the wave where it take me, i'll hold the pain release meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I just downloaded quadrophenia because of pearl jams cover of "the real me".
The two best songs on that album are "the real me" and "love reign oer me"....go figure. Its an ok album, i guess it just has to grow on me.
I listened to it a few more times. Yup, its basically a pretty average album. Loads of filler, and two of the songs sound exactly the same with the trumpets. There are about 5 or 6 good songs. I understand its a concept album, or opera....so I guess repetitiveness makes sense, (putting the keys from LROM in about 2 other songs). but its just not that special. Ill try Tommy this time, my dad said that is a much better album.
BTW: Pearl Jam made LROM and The Real Me sound substantially better than the originals.
BTW: Pearl Jam made LROM and The Real Me sound substantially better than the originals.
and thats cause your a die hard fan of pj and arent really a fan of the who. you have to appericate rogers voice. it will take time. yes i'm a huge fan of both bands. but i love the who versions better. i'm not trying to bias.but i will always defend the who.
PLAY THE GORGE IN 08 YOU PUSSIES
On the dry and dusty road
The nights we spent apart alone
I need to get back home
To cool cool rain
LONG LIVE THE WHO! BE DEAD OR ALIVE
i'll ride the wave where it take me, i'll hold the pain release meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I was gonna stay out of this thread cuz I thought it would just piss me off but it didn’t. It did give me a lot to respond to.
I’ll admit I’m biased. The Who are my favorite band and I was into them long before I was into Pearl Jam . . . because Pearl Jam didn’t exist when I started listening to them. I’ve loved The Who since I heard “I Can See for Miles” in 1967 when I was 13. I saw them live in their heyday and I saw them as recently as the VH1 Rock Honors. Most of their albums have to grow on you but I’d say that Quad is the best. Pete Townshend considers it his masterwork. “Love, Reign O’er Me” and “The Real Me” are 2 of the great songs on there but I’d suggest giving a listen to some others: “The Punk and the Godfather,” “5:15,” “Sea and Sand,” “Drowned,” and one that easily gets lost in the crashing drums and pounding bass, “I’m One.”
As a long time fan I’ve had to answer a bazillion questions or hear all the arguments and complaints about how they’re irrelevant or carried on past their time. I can’t speak for the people who’ve posted in this thread but many of the people who tell me they should have hung it up when Keith died are too young to have seen the band perform when he was still alive. Moonie was incredible but he was also troubled. If he had lived, would he have sobered up? Would he have stayed with the band? Over the period of 45 years a band can be expected to go through personnel changes, in fact, frequently over shorter periods than that (for example, say, Pearl Jam?). Do musicians have a right to keep their band together, doing what they love? As for helping John Entwistle out financially, he didn’t ask for money—he asked his mates to take the band on tour to help him out. He liked living a rock star’s lifestyle but he also loved performing. Unfortunately, he also liked living to excess and we lost him too. Should the band have quit after John’s death? Pete later explained why they continued but my feeling is that he explained it a little late in the game. I don’t agree with everything Pete says and does.
No, Pete isn’t a brilliant guitarist. Not in the league of Hendrix, Clapton, Jeff Beck, or many others. But he’s an incredible songwriter and influential artist. His music has changed and evolved over time because he stretches his limits and constantly tries new things. I’m always amazed at the different artists he says he is listening to. However, that doesn’t mean I start listening to them.
What I mostly don’t understand about your initial post, jamie uk, is its purpose. If you don’t like The Who, just don’t listen to them. I think there’s no denying their influence on popular music in the 60s and 70s. But they’ve accomplished just about every musical feat there is so they can get along without your approval. Why the need to slam them?
And I’m truly sorry you find Pete “creepy.” One thing I’ve enjoyed about Pete over the years is his sense of humor, which comes through in his banter on stage and his witty responses whenever he’s interviewed. He and Roger are very successful at this stage in life but they’re not nearly as wealthy as they could be because they do so many benefit shows for their charities. Before the VH1 show, about 50 of the Wholigans had a pre-party on the UCLA campus. It was a fundraiser for the children of a Who fan who died in February of breast cancer. We had about 5 minutes notice and then Pete walked in. He spoke very briefly, thanked us for being so generous, autographed some posters to be auctioned, and left after about 10 minutes. He was modest, almost shy, very funny, and completely down to earth. We learned afterwards that his security people didn’t want him to come but he insisted on doing it. So yeah, I’m biased.
Great post, i'm for one really glad you joined this stupid arguement
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They can buy but cant put on my clothes
Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~
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I grew up on the who, pearl jam, and u2 (thanks to my dad)...didn't even know that eddie liked them until live at the garden came out
people are fucking nuts for thinking they were "just ok" I wont say the single handedly changed everything. But along with Zep they pretty much changed the landscape of rock music forever.
The Who in the prime with all original members= Untouchable
Post Moon= "Just ok"
Post Entwistle= meh
"Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
I was gonna stay out of this thread cuz I thought it would just piss me off but it didn’t. It did give me a lot to respond to.
I’ll admit I’m biased. The Who are my favorite band and I was into them long before I was into Pearl Jam . . . because Pearl Jam didn’t exist when I started listening to them. I’ve loved The Who since I heard “I Can See for Miles” in 1967 when I was 13. I saw them live in their heyday and I saw them as recently as the VH1 Rock Honors. Most of their albums have to grow on you but I’d say that Quad is the best. Pete Townshend considers it his masterwork. “Love, Reign O’er Me” and “The Real Me” are 2 of the great songs on there but I’d suggest giving a listen to some others: “The Punk and the Godfather,” “5:15,” “Sea and Sand,” “Drowned,” and one that easily gets lost in the crashing drums and pounding bass, “I’m One.”
As a long time fan I’ve had to answer a bazillion questions or hear all the arguments and complaints about how they’re irrelevant or carried on past their time. I can’t speak for the people who’ve posted in this thread but many of the people who tell me they should have hung it up when Keith died are too young to have seen the band perform when he was still alive. Moonie was incredible but he was also troubled. If he had lived, would he have sobered up? Would he have stayed with the band? Over the period of 45 years a band can be expected to go through personnel changes, in fact, frequently over shorter periods than that (for example, say, Pearl Jam?). Do musicians have a right to keep their band together, doing what they love? As for helping John Entwistle out financially, he didn’t ask for money—he asked his mates to take the band on tour to help him out. He liked living a rock star’s lifestyle but he also loved performing. Unfortunately, he also liked living to excess and we lost him too. Should the band have quit after John’s death? Pete later explained why they continued but my feeling is that he explained it a little late in the game. I don’t agree with everything Pete says and does.
No, Pete isn’t a brilliant guitarist. Not in the league of Hendrix, Clapton, Jeff Beck, or many others. But he’s an incredible songwriter and influential artist. His music has changed and evolved over time because he stretches his limits and constantly tries new things. I’m always amazed at the different artists he says he is listening to. However, that doesn’t mean I start listening to them.
What I mostly don’t understand about your initial post, jamie uk, is its purpose. If you don’t like The Who, just don’t listen to them. I think there’s no denying their influence on popular music in the 60s and 70s. But they’ve accomplished just about every musical feat there is so they can get along without your approval. Why the need to slam them?
And I’m truly sorry you find Pete “creepy.” One thing I’ve enjoyed about Pete over the years is his sense of humor, which comes through in his banter on stage and his witty responses whenever he’s interviewed. He and Roger are very successful at this stage in life but they’re not nearly as wealthy as they could be because they do so many benefit shows for their charities. Before the VH1 show, about 50 of the Wholigans had a pre-party on the UCLA campus. It was a fundraiser for the children of a Who fan who died in February of breast cancer. We had about 5 minutes notice and then Pete walked in. He spoke very briefly, thanked us for being so generous, autographed some posters to be auctioned, and left after about 10 minutes. He was modest, almost shy, very funny, and completely down to earth. We learned afterwards that his security people didn’t want him to come but he insisted on doing it. So yeah, I’m biased.
this is a fantastic post. you said it better than i ever did or could.
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The Who was amazing up until 1975. That's when the song writing and performances, and quite frankly, Pete's interest began to dissipate. 1977's Who Are You album sucks. Seriously, there are 2 good songs on the album. Then Moon died. Entwistle was the only one who stayed on top of it.
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sorry baby whofan it is true. i dont have to go listen to ed sing with the doors to know that without jim theyre not the doors.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
sorry... the doors arent the doors without jim. Really? no, really? What was Ed singing when he joined "The Doors"? Oh man..I know this post was to piss people off....but really?
Peace Love & Pearl Jam forever!!
proof: stage antics of keith moon destroying drums. pete destroying his guitar. pete doing the whole "windmill" routine. AND pete was playing with feedback way before anybody else because, technically, he wasn't that great of a guitar player.
petes more of a songwriter than a guitar virtuoso. he was the first person (or the who was the first band if you want to put it that way) to successfully incorporate the synthesizer into rock and roll music.
i cant reply to your post cause i dont know if it was a reply to me or CBB10.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
They can buy but cant put on my clothes
Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~
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A few good tracks that I like, but can think of plenty of bands I'd sooner hear.....
Same here.
Not a chance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5yymadwxj8
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Also, I would say in terms of popularity, influence, radio play, and general public knowledge and acknowledgement, The Who are indeed on the same level as Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and The Rolling Stones. One only has to see their influence on punk, progressive rock, 'arena' rock, and their role in helping to create the "classic rock" sound which is a dominate radio format in the US. You're more likely to hear The Who on classic rock radio than The Beatles or The Stones. That, to me, says something about their continuing relevance.
And, to add my own .02 about a somewhat irrelevant topic raised earlier - I cannot understand all the adulation for The Velvet Underground. I really find them unlistenable. But some feel that way about The Who...oh well, to each their own...
Oh joy, I'm 15 again :rolleyes:...so who is it making the sweeping statements, with no homework ?
I'll say again....the Who are a decent band, but I don't see they're that great, and I reckon a lot (not all) of the adulation they get around here (as in pearl jam message pit) is because Ed V loves em and bangs on about how good they are,... and the covers of course.
I got into Niel Young because of Pearl Jam, now I love his albums, I dont have them all, about a dozen though and I'd say I like him as much as I like PJ....whatever, I still won't have it about the Who being all that......
give the vu another chance. they are easily one of my all time favorite bands and like i said before the who are my favorite 'classic rock' band. i think lou and pete have alot in common in their approach to music. if you really like the who i think it would be odd not to like vu at least alittle.
.... if one can actually think of a listen.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
What's in a name squire ? If being pedantic is the best you can come up with, don't even bother.
The Who are not one of the great classic rock bands, they dissapeared up their own arses for 20 years, then realised they wanted to be the Who again...and somewhere along the line managed to persuade everyone they were better than we all remembered......
fuck this.
disappeared for 20 years? when was this? they have been touring since the 60's with the longest break being 4 years. and a great classic rock band is what they are, whether you like them or not. thats like saying nirvana isnt a great grunge band. nirvana might not be great in the grand scheme of rock bands, but nirvana is one of the bands that define what grunge is, just like the who helped to define what classic rock is. ask most people the who will come up just as much as skynyrd, floyd, zeppelin, ac/dc, stones, eagles, you name it. the who didnt sell millions of records because evenflow got played on mtv. the who sold millions of records because people like what they heard, time and time again.
yeah, they may not have dissapeared, more like went quiet whilst trying to make solo records, films, sound like a different sort of band..whatever. Then they kinda went...."OOOH, we're the Who...remember us?"
I'll say again, I really love some of their tracks, Moony was an exquisite percussionist, after that...avereage to me (to me...) and Townsend......he makes my skin creep, as I said earlier.
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
pete seems alittle creepy to me too....i still dont buy the whole pedo story. but the who have been touring, not solo stuff, but the who. they may have dropped off the radar, until recently. but if you followed the who they stayed some what active their entire career, or those left in the who. i dont think the who did anything differently to sell tickets from the late 80s, to the 90s, to the present tours. i dont have the facts, but im willing to bet that during all these tours the who sold out the same venues they are still doing today. maybe im wrong.
though i must say the police seem to fall into that 'ohh remember us?' deal. but thats a whole other topic.
you know i mentioned this earlier - there seems to be a lot of speak by people who don't really know what they're talking about.
Do I like that PJ loves them..... Hell yeah. I get to hear kick ass Who Songs from my favorite band in concert.
So far:
Love Reign O'er Me
The Real Me
The Kids Are Alright (Ed Solo)
The Seeker (Ed Solo)
Baba O'Riley
Keep em' coming boys!!!!
P.S. Loves me some Kinks. Wish the boys would play some of that. Hmmmm how would that sound?
I’ll admit I’m biased. The Who are my favorite band and I was into them long before I was into Pearl Jam . . . because Pearl Jam didn’t exist when I started listening to them. I’ve loved The Who since I heard “I Can See for Miles” in 1967 when I was 13. I saw them live in their heyday and I saw them as recently as the VH1 Rock Honors. Most of their albums have to grow on you but I’d say that Quad is the best. Pete Townshend considers it his masterwork. “Love, Reign O’er Me” and “The Real Me” are 2 of the great songs on there but I’d suggest giving a listen to some others: “The Punk and the Godfather,” “5:15,” “Sea and Sand,” “Drowned,” and one that easily gets lost in the crashing drums and pounding bass, “I’m One.”
As a long time fan I’ve had to answer a bazillion questions or hear all the arguments and complaints about how they’re irrelevant or carried on past their time. I can’t speak for the people who’ve posted in this thread but many of the people who tell me they should have hung it up when Keith died are too young to have seen the band perform when he was still alive. Moonie was incredible but he was also troubled. If he had lived, would he have sobered up? Would he have stayed with the band? Over the period of 45 years a band can be expected to go through personnel changes, in fact, frequently over shorter periods than that (for example, say, Pearl Jam?). Do musicians have a right to keep their band together, doing what they love? As for helping John Entwistle out financially, he didn’t ask for money—he asked his mates to take the band on tour to help him out. He liked living a rock star’s lifestyle but he also loved performing. Unfortunately, he also liked living to excess and we lost him too. Should the band have quit after John’s death? Pete later explained why they continued but my feeling is that he explained it a little late in the game. I don’t agree with everything Pete says and does.
No, Pete isn’t a brilliant guitarist. Not in the league of Hendrix, Clapton, Jeff Beck, or many others. But he’s an incredible songwriter and influential artist. His music has changed and evolved over time because he stretches his limits and constantly tries new things. I’m always amazed at the different artists he says he is listening to. However, that doesn’t mean I start listening to them.
What I mostly don’t understand about your initial post, jamie uk, is its purpose. If you don’t like The Who, just don’t listen to them. I think there’s no denying their influence on popular music in the 60s and 70s. But they’ve accomplished just about every musical feat there is so they can get along without your approval. Why the need to slam them?
And I’m truly sorry you find Pete “creepy.” One thing I’ve enjoyed about Pete over the years is his sense of humor, which comes through in his banter on stage and his witty responses whenever he’s interviewed. He and Roger are very successful at this stage in life but they’re not nearly as wealthy as they could be because they do so many benefit shows for their charities. Before the VH1 show, about 50 of the Wholigans had a pre-party on the UCLA campus. It was a fundraiser for the children of a Who fan who died in February of breast cancer. We had about 5 minutes notice and then Pete walked in. He spoke very briefly, thanked us for being so generous, autographed some posters to be auctioned, and left after about 10 minutes. He was modest, almost shy, very funny, and completely down to earth. We learned afterwards that his security people didn’t want him to come but he insisted on doing it. So yeah, I’m biased.
On the dry and dusty road
The nights we spent apart alone
I need to get back home
To cool cool rain
LONG LIVE THE WHO! BE DEAD OR ALIVE
i'll ride the wave where it take me, i'll hold the pain release meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I listened to it a few more times. Yup, its basically a pretty average album. Loads of filler, and two of the songs sound exactly the same with the trumpets. There are about 5 or 6 good songs. I understand its a concept album, or opera....so I guess repetitiveness makes sense, (putting the keys from LROM in about 2 other songs). but its just not that special. Ill try Tommy this time, my dad said that is a much better album.
BTW: Pearl Jam made LROM and The Real Me sound substantially better than the originals.
8/7/08, 6/9/09
On the dry and dusty road
The nights we spent apart alone
I need to get back home
To cool cool rain
LONG LIVE THE WHO! BE DEAD OR ALIVE
i'll ride the wave where it take me, i'll hold the pain release meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Great post, i'm for one really glad you joined this stupid arguement
They can buy but cant put on my clothes
Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~
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people are fucking nuts for thinking they were "just ok" I wont say the single handedly changed everything. But along with Zep they pretty much changed the landscape of rock music forever.
The Who in the prime with all original members= Untouchable
Post Moon= "Just ok"
Post Entwistle= meh
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
That's my take.
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