EMO music is cool.....

Collin

soulsinging wrote:

you mean like in that song black where the singer is moaning about how he'll have to live with the knowledge that the love of his life will be happier with another man?

At least he had (has) rage and long hair! And a flanel shirt and cool doc martin's. And the song didn't suck.

Cropduster84

EddieisfromEvanston wrote:

You guys are all fucking idiots! Eddie and Kurt are the fathers of Emo. Personal sad lyrics. Maybe go back and listen to Ten. Black, Alive, Release.
Nirvana's "You know your Right" when Kurt screams "Paaaaaiiiiinnnnnn."
Haven't you seen videos of Ed crying on stage while singing? You're all fucking morons. If you think Emo is lame then thank Pj

What?!?

There is nothing remotely similar between Nirvana todays crop of bands such as My Chemical Romance etc who are TOTALLY based on image.

If anything PJ and Nirvana were and stiil are the very antithisis of this dire movement. Yes Kurt sang 'Paaaaaiiiinnnnn'. He sang it from his fuckin heart. 'Grunge', and i use that term cautiously, was about not having an image, about being yourself. It wasn't about wearing your sisters black jeans, having £30 styled haircuts and pretending your sad.

I have to admit, Ive totally lost faith in rock music today and Im only 22. Give my artists such as Damien Rice, Bjork, Radiohead and Tom Waits anyday.

Cropduster84

soulsinging wrote:

you mean like in that song black where the singer is moaning about how he'll have to live with the knowledge that the love of his life will be happier with another man?

Sang it from his heart though.

Plus, image aside, Emo's dreadful, musically makes Greenday sound like Pink Floyd.

Todd76

This thread is completely RIDICULOUS....a bunch of thirty-somethings complaining about the music of the youth of this generation. I'm sure all of our/your parents said the same thing when Smells Like Teen Spirit was blaring from everyones stereos. If we were all in highschool right now most of us would be sporting black eyeliner and flock of seaqulls haircuts (rather than the flannel and Docs you all wore 15 years ago). Emo sucks - I miss the good old days of grunge, when music meant something....give me a break. It may not be my cup of tea at all - but I can certainly understand why the "scene" has taken hold with teenagers....thats just how it goes. All us old folks aren't supposed to like what the kids these days are listening too.

bharQ

Todd76 wrote:

This thread is completely RIDICULOUS....a bunch of thirty-somethings comlaining about the music of the youth of this generation. I'm sure all of our/your parents said the same thing when Smells Like Teen Spirit was blaring from everyones stereos. If we were all in highschool right now most of us would be sporting black eyeliner and flock of seaqulls haircuts (rather than the flannel and Docs you all wore 15 years ago). Emo sucks - I miss the good old days of grunge, when music meant something....give me a break. It may not be my cup of tea at all - but I can certainly understand why the "scene" has taken hold with teenagers....thats just how it goes. All us old folks aren't supposed to like what the kids these days are listening too.

whatever.. 30 year olds that DIDNT latch on to the early 90s music were the ones missing out.. the ones that did were there because it was real music and not 80s hair metal shit.. they didn't give a fuck about it being the "trendy" music or an excuse to wear doc martins.. the reason we all hate the music the kids are listening to right now is because it is quite simply terrible.

thankyougrandma

Emo will be cool when they will make an EMO distortion pedal...

Todd76

bharQ wrote:

whatever.. 30 year olds that DIDNT latch on to the early 90s music were the ones missing out.. the ones that did were there because it was real music and not 80s hair metal shit.. they didn't give a fuck about it being the "trendy" music or an excuse to wear doc martins.. the reason we all hate the music the kids are listening to right now is because it is quite simply terrible.

....and i'm sure if you talked to the teenagers who are into the "emo" scene right now they would say the exact same thing.....that "their" music is great/real/full of emotion. But in 15 years when the new trend hits they'll all be on the My Chemical Romance chat room complaining about how shitty the new music is....thats the point.

....its fairly ironic that everyone in this thread is whining about how whiny emo music is

Collin

Todd76 wrote:

....and i'm sure if you talked to the teenagers who are into the "emo" scene right now they would say the exact same thing.....that "their" music is great/ real/full of emotion. But in 15 years when the new trend hits they'll all be on the My Chemical Romance chat room complaining about how shitty the new music is....thats the point.

....its fairly ironic that everyone in this thread is whining about how whiny emo music is

I'm not in my 30s, I'm in my teen years and emo just sucks, musically.

fanch75

WHen I was a young man, I had to walk 5 miles to and from school, uphill both ways!

thankyougrandma

fanch75 wrote:

WHen I was a young man, I had to walk 5 miles to and from school, uphill both ways!

... under 40 feet of snow.

MCG

bharQ wrote:

whatever.. 30 year olds that DIDNT latch on to the early 90s music were the ones missing out.. the ones that did were there because it was real music and not 80s hair metal shit.. they didn't give a fuck about it being the "trendy" music or an excuse to wear doc martins.. the reason we all hate the music the kids are listening to right now is because it is quite simply terrible.

But they think it's the best stuff out there, I'm sure most of us listened to some stuff we'd be ashamed to admit to now, when I was 13/14 I was into Blink 182 and I thought it was the best, most real form of music out there, now I can't even look at one of their records. I blame the music media for their utter lack of variety and eagerness to sell artists for their breast size/image as opposed to their talent. To some of the youth of today, EMO is the fuck you to all the Britney Spears, Black Eyed Peas and Gwen Stefani's out there because they can see through the wool pop stars who don't write songs or play instruments are trying to pull over their eyes. I think it is bad music also, but if I hadn't taken the time to introduce myself to all the music I like today and had been listening to all the garbage on MuchMusic (like a Canadian MTV if anyone doesn't know) I might look at it differently. Developing a taste in music is as much about being educated as anything else, if they really have a passion for music as an artform, they will eventually explore outside of the emo genre and if they are anything like me it will open up a brand new world to them.

fanch75

MCG wrote:

But they think it's the best stuff out there, I'm sure most of us listened to some stuff we'd be ashamed to admit to now, when I was 13/14 I was into Blink 182 and I thought it was the best, most real form of music out there, now I can't even look at one of their records.

This, I have never understood. Can't we keep that youthfull innocence where music is valid simply because it's fun & entertaining? Music doesn't have to be educational, or express some deep meaning abuot the loss of the Hutu or the emotions of snails when they are stepped on in order to be valid.

That sounds cool = valid.

MCG

fanch75 wrote:

This, I have never understood. Can't we keep that youthfull innocence where music is valid simply because it's fun & entertaining? Music doesn't have to be educational, or express some deep meaning abuot the loss of the Hutu or the emotions of snails when they are stepped on in order to be valid.

That sounds cool = valid.

If that's what you use music for fine.

The learning, experiencing and considering music a form of art is for musical appreciation.

thankyougrandma

MCG wrote:

If that's what you use music for fine.

The learning, experiencing and considering music a form of art is for musical appreciation.

bah, let the damn kids listen what they want to, this thread leads nowhere, if you don't like this music, just don't listen to it, i don't give a flying fuck about what others are listening (why would I?)...

I'm sure it is possible to find good emo music bands, but as in most music genre, what is popular and playing on the radio is usually crap, but damn many people DO listen to music just for entertainment...

MCG

thankyougrandma wrote:

bah, let the damn kids listen what they want to, this thread leads nowhere, if you don't like this music, just don't listen to it, i don't give a flying fuck about what others are listening (why would I?)...

I'm sure it is possible to find good emo music bands, but as in most music genre, what is popular and playing on the radio is usually crap, but damn many people DO listen to music just for entertainment...

Not sure where my post contrasts this. I believe I said

MCG wrote:

if they really have a passion for music as an artform, they will eventually explore outside of the emo genre and if they are anything like me it will open up a brand new world to them.

didn't say everyone should look beyond music only as a form of entertainment, just that I do, and some who currently listen to emo will. There's also nothing saying you can't do both.

Cropduster84

Todd76 wrote:

This thread is completely RIDICULOUS....a bunch of thirty-somethings complaining about the music of the youth of this generation..

I'm 22 and think it's going to the dogs. Some of the music produced by MCR, FOB and Panic is just awful. Really really glossy, sugary over-American almost disneyfied pre-packaged angst.

Don't get me wrong I like my depressing music at times but at least people like Dylan, Young, Damien Rice, Ryan Adams sing from their heart.

Its not so much the Emo fans I dislike its the bands themselves, I mean how old is that hyperactive twat from MCR?

fanch75

MCG wrote:

If that's what you use music for fine.

The learning, experiencing and considering music a form of art is for musical appreciation.

That's all cool, but its necessarily not a zero-sum game. You can like one thing, and still like something else. You can enjoy a nice steak, but cheese cake tastes good, too. One may be more filling and have substance, but damn it the desert just tastes good. That's my approach. I like it all and music doesn't need to make me think about geometry (metaphorically speaking) in order to like it.

There's no right or wrong to any of this - it's all personal preference; I just found it hard to believe that you got such a joy from simple "less meaningful" music of your youth, and now it sickens you to look at their CD's. It's not like you're an idiot for liking something.

In the end, we all like what we like, and that's it.

Even Emo.

I guess.

haha

MCG

fanch75 wrote:

That's all cool, but its necessarily not a zero-sum game. You can like one thing, and still like something else. You can enjoy a nice steak, but cheese cake tastes good, too. One may be more filling and have substance, but damn it the desert just tastes good. That's my approach. I like it all and music doesn't need to make me think about geometry (metaphorically speaking) in order to like it.

There's no right or wrong to any of this - it's all personal preference; I just found it hard to believe that you got such a joy from simple "less meaningful" music of your youth, and now it sickens you to look at their CD's. It's not like you're an idiot for liking something.

In the end, we all like what we like, and that's it.

Even Emo.

I guess.

haha

I can absolutely agree to that

pjalive21

soulsinging wrote:

you mean like in that song black where the singer is moaning about how he'll have to live with the knowledge that the love of his life will be happier with another man?

Ed wasnt 16 and it wasnt sang like a prepubescent crybaby....i think its a little more credible to hear from a man in his late 20's about losing the love of his life compared to a 16 year olds first girlfriend leaving him

bharQ

soulsinging you've proved enough times you clearly have no grasp of music whatsoever so its only fitting you would limp "Black" in the same category.