Soundgarden Bootlegs

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  • mareede
    mareede Posts: 76
    This thread is amazing! I'm looking for a solid soundboard or fm quality show from either upside era or super era. any recommendations?

    Doesn't exist. Seriously. The longest SBD you'll find from either of those eras is the MTV 1996 performance, and that's five songs.

    There are some really nice audience recordings from those eras though. I recommend 2/08/94, 2/10/94, 4/08/94, 7/22/94, 8/27/95, 7/05/96, 9/16/96, 9/21/96, 10/11/96, 11/07/06, 11/09/96 and 11/29/96. All sound A quality, though the quality of the performances vary.
  • thanks a lot! bummer that there isn't any soundboards floating around, but i'll check some of those shows out
  • mareede wrote:
    Doesn't exist. Seriously. The longest SBD you'll find from either of those eras is the MTV 1996 performance, and that's five songs.

    There are some really nice audience recordings from those eras though. I recommend 2/08/94, 2/10/94, 4/08/94, 7/22/94, 8/27/95, 7/05/96, 9/16/96, 9/21/96, 10/11/96, 11/07/06, 11/09/96 and 11/29/96. All sound A quality, though the quality of the performances vary.


    Rocklife and thejapan boots 90 arent soundboard ?
  • mareede
    mareede Posts: 76
    Rocklife and thejapan boots 90 arent soundboard ?

    He asked for 1994-1997 shows. There are a few SBDs from 1989-92, which most of you have. I have a couple that aren't as common that I'll have to torrent when I get back to the US, but again, they're from 1989-90. I don't know what was going on there.
  • mareede
    mareede Posts: 76
    I think I'm ready to call it done. I want to look over it again another time, but I think I'll post a link tomorrow night. Hope y'all dig it!
  • here's another show from 1995 that Sunshine10 kindly uploaded for me, quality isnt the best but still very listenable especially when 4th of July is played.

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z5L6N6DE
  • Rocklife and thejapan boots 90 arent soundboard ?
    What's "The Japan" boot you speak of?
  • What's "The Japan" boot you speak of?

    the second show , the one that I think Hiro sangs donuts , and they its supposed to be missing 2 other songs from superunknown I think its the Garden of souls
  • Marie Curie
    Marie Curie Posts: 1,250
    the second show , the one that I think Hiro sangs donuts , and they its supposed to be missing 2 other songs from superunknown I think its the Garden of souls


    that one is not soundboard, just a very good audience recording
    “Life is life everywhere. Life is in ourselves and not outside us. There will be men beside me, and the important thing is to be a man among men and to remain a man always, whatever the misfortunes, not to despair and not to fall - that is the aim of life, that is its purpose.”
    Fyodor Dostoyevsky
  • mareede
    mareede Posts: 76
    the second show , the one that I think Hiro sangs donuts , and they its supposed to be missing 2 other songs from superunknown I think its the Garden of souls

    That's not 1990-it's from February 1994. They were playing tons of old material because they didn't think the audience would dig it if they played a load of Superunknown songs. They did, however, play "Mailman" and "My Wave" at that show, neither of which are on the CD (which is edited).

    Also, it's English rock journalist Everett True who sings "Donuts".

    http://mattisnotfrench.hostsnake.com/SGLG/19940210.htm
  • mareede
    mareede Posts: 76
    Okay, I'm tired of being the only person who can look at this. I'm going to say that it's not 100% done, but then...will it ever be? I don't want it to turn it into Chinese Democracy here.

    Knock yourselves out. Let me know what you think, what's working and not working, what looks weird, etc.

    Cheers!

    http://mattisnotfrench.hostsnake.com/SGLG/index.htm
  • awesome bro!!!! keeping the magic that was SG alive, we (fans) really appreciate it! thanks,drew
  • Marie Curie
    Marie Curie Posts: 1,250
    mareede wrote:
    Okay, I'm tired of being the only person who can look at this. I'm going to say that it's not 100% done, but then...will it ever be? I don't want it to turn it into Chinese Democracy here.

    Knock yourselves out. Let me know what you think, what's working and not working, what looks weird, etc.

    Cheers!

    http://mattisnotfrench.hostsnake.com/SGLG/index.htm

    Looks great Matt!

    One thing, on the mislabeled bootlegs part:

    12/04/96 Sacramento vs. 12/05/96 Oakland
    Correct date: 12/04/96 [Sacramento, CA, USA] - audience-shot DVD...no known audios
    Correct date: 12/05/96 [Oakland, CA, USA] - DAT audience audio...no known videos
    How we can can be sure: This one's totally my fault. For some reason my setlist for 12/04/96 was off in the last version of the Live Guide. When a collector received a DVD of the Sacramento show, he checked the setlist on my old Live Guide and decided his DVD was actually 12/05/96 (Oakland) based on the setlist alone. It was a smart move on his part, since so much out there is mislabeled. Unfortunately, this time the bootleg was actually labeled correctly. He then torrented the video, labeling it as 12/05/96 (Oakland). Once again, this is completely my fault-I had a bad setlist down for 12/04/96; unfortunately, they played the same setlist both nights. Because I'm in France, I also haven't been able to torrent my audio of the Oakland show to confirm that the video was indeed NOT from the Oakland show...so the Sacramento video is now circulating, labeled as the Oakland show. Hopefully this changes from now on-think of it this way; there's no audio of the Sacramento show and no video of the Oakland show. I will post the Oakland show when I get back to the US unless somebody beats me to it (I can hope!).


    I'm the one who uploaded that Sacramento DVD on dime, but I'm a she, not a he ;)
    “Life is life everywhere. Life is in ourselves and not outside us. There will be men beside me, and the important thing is to be a man among men and to remain a man always, whatever the misfortunes, not to despair and not to fall - that is the aim of life, that is its purpose.”
    Fyodor Dostoyevsky
  • mareede wrote:
    Okay, I'm tired of being the only person who can look at this. I'm going to say that it's not 100% done, but then...will it ever be? I don't want it to turn it into Chinese Democracy here.

    Knock yourselves out. Let me know what you think, what's working and not working, what looks weird, etc.

    Cheers!

    http://mattisnotfrench.hostsnake.com/SGLG/index.htm


    its funny bout the chinese democracy remark hahaha ...yeah it needs little more info , but you are the man you had the balls to put on this thing
  • Duder5k
    Duder5k Posts: 278
    The live guide is looking nice, dude. About Black Hole Sun on TotP, the version on youtube is incomplete. Have you seen the complete performance? It's also a real shame that there's not much pro-shot out there. I've been saying this since 2006, but I really think they should take the '94 show they filmed and put that on DVD.

    Then again there hasn't been an official SG release since 1997, so who knows if that show will ever surface to the public. Speaking of '97, I've never seen the pro-video from the 1/27/97 show. Is it on youtube somewhere or maybe there's a DVD version in circulation?

    Also, June 06, 1992, I have the one with JCP, HAO, and Sw/MGEC, but is there actually a video out in circulation of the whole show, or are the complete ones not fully surfaced? I remember reading it was a PPV thing, and that some people caught video of Face Pollution.

    Just a few more questions, haha. August 20, 1993: you said My Wave clips are on the AITSU CD? How long are the clips? Incomplete? Are they as clear as the Kickstand clip, for example? And then Reading 95. Have you seen the complete FoBD 120 Minutes video anywhere? And then there's this: "Clips of the professional video can be seen in some of the many "Superunknown" videos." Which Superunknown videos are you talking about? Do you mean like more clips on the AITSU CD+? Or is it just the normal Superunknown music video that has 'em?

    Sorry for all the questions dude, but I had to ask after reading almost every page on the site. :p
  • mareede
    mareede Posts: 76
    Duder5k wrote:
    The live guide is looking nice, dude. About Black Hole Sun on TotP, the version on youtube is incomplete. Have you seen the complete performance? It's also a real shame that there's not much pro-shot out there. I've been saying this since 2006, but I really think they should take the '94 show they filmed and put that on DVD.

    I've never seen the full BHS from ToTP. I really believe it's from 4/16/94 Brixton, but I don't have proof.

    I agree with you about the Calgary '94 show. I just wish they could actually release something.
    Duder5k wrote:
    Then again there hasn't been an official SG release since 1997, so who knows if that show will ever surface to the public. Speaking of '97, I've never seen the pro-video from the 1/27/97 show. Is it on youtube somewhere or maybe there's a DVD version in circulation?

    There may be a DVD in circulation, but I haven't seen it around. Lividz had this video back in the day so I assume it got to DVD eventually. For those of you who don't know who Lividz is, he used to sell VHS/DVDs off a webpage back in the day. Dude had EVERYTHING in excellent quality. He got busted in like 2005 selling at a record convention (I think this is how the story goes), part of a sting operation by the Canadian authorities, and hasn't resurfaced since.

    He filmed 11/13/96 (all copies come from him) and I believe (though I don't have proof) that at least 1/3 of the DVDs currently circulating are sourced from him.
    Duder5k wrote:
    Also, June 06, 1992, I have the one with JCP, HAO, and Sw/MGEC, but is there actually a video out in circulation of the whole show, or are the complete ones not fully surfaced? I remember reading it was a PPV thing, and that some people caught video of Face Pollution.

    The full video does exist. I think that most of the 3-song versions must date from a rebroadcast or something. Again, just a hunch-I have no proof.
    Duder5k wrote:
    Just a few more questions, haha. August 20, 1993: you said My Wave clips are on the AITSU CD? How long are the clips? Incomplete? Are they as clear as the Kickstand clip, for example?

    No, they aren't. "Kickstand" is from the professionally-shot Calgary video, while the "My Wave" clip comes from an AMT-shot from the side of the stage. It doesn't sound that good. BTW, it's the same version that can be found on a number of Superunknown singles.
    Duder5k wrote:
    And then Reading 95. Have you seen the complete FoBD 120 Minutes video anywhere?

    I've never seen that. I culled that info from the SOMMS mailing list archive, from posts dating to just after the Reading show. I also know that the same TV special features Smashing Pumpkins (another favorite band of mine): http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp1995-08-25
    Duder5k wrote:
    And then there's this: "Clips of the professional video can be seen in some of the many "Superunknown" videos." Which Superunknown videos are you talking about? Do you mean like more clips on the AITSU CD+? Or is it just the normal Superunknown music video that has 'em? Sorry for all the questions dude, but I had to ask after reading almost every page on the site. :p

    You can kind of see the Reading pro-video on the regular "Superunknown" video that aired on MTV. However, there are multiple "Superunknown" videos! As I recall, there are six different videos that are pulled from the same footage but are all slightly different. The Reading footage is easy to pick out by Chris and Kim's clothing (other footage featured in the "Superunknown" video: more clips from 8/11/94 Calgary, leftover footage from the video for "The Day I Tried To Live"....).

    I really wish that they'd rerelease the CD-Rom...it's truly an exceptional document and tons of fun. It won't work on most newer computers because the resolution/requirements are so low...it's just too outdated. But consider what all was on the CD-Rom:

    * Music videos for "Spoonman", "Black Hole Sun", "Fell On Black Days" and "The Day I Tried To Live"
    * Videos of Artis the Spoonman doing what he does
    * A live video of "Kickstand" from the Calgary 1994 show
    * A short documentary on the making of Superunknown
    * Six different videos for "Superunknown"
    * Audio recordings of "She Likes Surprises", "Fell On Black Days" (video version) and "Like Suicide" (acoustic version) that can be played from off the CD-Rom (or just in your stereo too)
    * Seven "Space Jams" that are all awesome and that stream while you flip through photo albums of the band
    * A live video clip of "My Wave" that leads you into a game of Breakout!
    * and so much more....

    That CD-Rom NEVER got old. I'll have to see if I can get it working when I get back to the US.

    Thanks for the questions and comments. Keep 'em coming!
  • The new live guide looks great Matt. Thanks for your effort.

    Also a slight correction you wrote Munich 96 was pro-filmed. I believe it wasn't. I' was at this concert, front row, and didn't see any camera. If they had a camera then only at the mixing console, but this would be only one.

    But, ;-). There's strong evidence that one show of the European tour was filmed by the band. The show in Cologne a few days earlier. I still have, somewhere, a video called "Jam-Soundgarden". This was a ca. 60 min. show done by the famous music-video directors DoRo from Austria. Every "Jam" show covered a different band.
    The show about Soundgarden featured the highs and lows of their career. Plus extended interviews with Chris and Kim, some archive interviews with the other two members and video excerpts.
    But, most important live cuts from "Spoonman" and "Searching", done with multiple cameras. I strongly believe they are from Cologne. I also believe the full show was shot, by the time Soundgarden had their official website on imusic they offered live clips of "Black Hole Sun" "TyCobb" and "Burden In My Hand". I haven't seen those clips but the stills looked like they where from the same source.
    I hope I can locate my cassette and put some clips on youtube.
  • Duder5k
    Duder5k Posts: 278
    Man the AITSU CD+ sounds so awesome. I'm going to try to get it soon. And is the My Wave clip the whole song, or like a few seconds?

    Thanks for the answers. ;)
  • Hope you don't mind me answering this question.
    My wave is the full clip. I've bought the CD-Rom the time I was in France on holiday a long, long time ago. It's still rockin' today, though the way it's done might be outdated. Buy it if you can you won't regret it. The CD playable tracks are worth the price alone. You get much stuff. Interviews (a shame this hasn't been released on DVD), three videos, live clip and some gadgets.
  • Duder5k
    Duder5k Posts: 278
    Yeah I've been wanting to buy it since like 2006 but I just haven't gotten around to it. I'm keeping an eye out on eBay though. How long are the interviews, btw?