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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,644
    edited February 5
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.



    So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?
    I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,482
    edited February 5
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?


    Because its taking an axe rather than a scalpel. They didn't need to cause immediate pain, confusion and uncertainty. 

    you want to know the global chaos? Its doubt that the US will be a properly functioning global leader. 
    It's the equivalent of lazy management at a corporation.  If you do business this way you do not have an understanding of your business.
    Yep. You look at any new CEO that comes in to a business, even ones that are internal, they generally take months to understand and assess what is going on before any major changes. And when they enact those changes, theres usually a sweeping plan.
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?


    Because its taking an axe rather than a scalpel. They didn't need to cause immediate pain, confusion and uncertainty. 

    you want to know the global chaos? Its doubt that the US will be a properly functioning global leader. 
    It's the equivalent of lazy management at a corporation.  If you do business this way you do not have an understanding of your business.
    Case in point: Twitter
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    brianlux said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.



    So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?
    I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 
    I can't speak for any one person but I do think MAGA is OK with that. What actually happens is not the issue anymore and hasn't been for a while. It's about winning "politics-as-sport" game. And they're dominating. That's why I don't talk any of them about this. Once it became evident that most of them don't actually care what happens, the futility was obvious.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,168
    Yeah it is a waste of time to deal with maga...they love this. Stop asking.

    The sooner some realize this the better they will sleep. Or not.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,644
    OnWis97 said:
    brianlux said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.



    So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?
    I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 
    I can't speak for any one person but I do think MAGA is OK with that. What actually happens is not the issue anymore and hasn't been for a while. It's about winning "politics-as-sport" game. And they're dominating. That's why I don't talk any of them about this. Once it became evident that most of them don't actually care what happens, the futility was obvious.

    I think  MAGA is irrelevant anymore.  One billionaire and his small team of tech geeks are winning and everyone else is losing.  And when you're losing, it's time to push back.  That may prove to be futile, but it only makes sense to try and it beats giving up. 
    "Don't give in to the lies.  Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth.  And to hope."
    -Jim Acosta











  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    Sent a buyout letter to everyone in the CIA. Totally normal stuff. The intent to fill your intelligence agency with loyalists is completely normal stuff. Won’t cause any chaos at all. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    brianlux said:
    OnWis97 said:
    brianlux said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.



    So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?
    I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 
    I can't speak for any one person but I do think MAGA is OK with that. What actually happens is not the issue anymore and hasn't been for a while. It's about winning "politics-as-sport" game. And they're dominating. That's why I don't talk any of them about this. Once it became evident that most of them don't actually care what happens, the futility was obvious.

    I think  MAGA is irrelevant anymore.  One billionaire and his small team of tech geeks are winning and everyone else is losing.  And when you're losing, it's time to push back.  That may prove to be futile, but it only makes sense to try and it beats giving up. 
    They think they’re winning and their information sources reinforce it to them daily.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,168
    OnWis97 said:
    brianlux said:
    OnWis97 said:
    brianlux said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.



    So going by what you said here, Edson, I assume you are OK with one billionaire controlling the AI programs that he will use to run the country, give him access to all of the U.S. funds, and make himself vastly more wealthy?
    I'm sorry, who got sucked into what? 
    I can't speak for any one person but I do think MAGA is OK with that. What actually happens is not the issue anymore and hasn't been for a while. It's about winning "politics-as-sport" game. And they're dominating. That's why I don't talk any of them about this. Once it became evident that most of them don't actually care what happens, the futility was obvious.

    I think  MAGA is irrelevant anymore.  One billionaire and his small team of tech geeks are winning and everyone else is losing.  And when you're losing, it's time to push back.  That may prove to be futile, but it only makes sense to try and it beats giving up. 
    They think they’re winning and their information sources reinforce it to them daily.
    Absolutely...and without hesitation
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,975
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.


    Looks like someone recently got pardoned. 

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.


    here's one. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Like it or not, politics is a dirty business in the US. To think otherwise is to be naive. Trump made a promise to levy tariffs if our neighboring countries do not allocate more resources to border security. He kept his promise in less than a month. The efficacy remains to been seen and it is likely his executive orders would not withstand judicial scrutiny, but he made a promise and kept it. I cannot say that about many politicians in the US.

    No one manipulates facts like this dude. No one.

    And your comment is Not exactly true when taken in context,  per the AP:


    “Unlike during the 2024 campaign, when Trump billed his economic agenda as guaranteed to reduce the cost of living for Americans, the Republcan president now is acknowledging what many economists have long forecasted: that the levies could yield higher prices and lower supplies across the market.”

    My comments address his actions on tariffs regarding border security, not economic impact of tariffs on US citizens with respect to the importation of tangible goods or the cost of living. It does not take much manipulation of facts to assess the financial impact of fentanyl being imported into our country, whether direct from China or through our North American neighbors. And all politicians manipulate facts to support their agenda.
    Canada is an open border with no fence. Republican supporters are out of their minds if they think Canada is a significant contributor to the immigration problem. 

    So in your republican logic, let’s tank our economy to solve ten percent of the immigration problem, maybe.

    Not immigration. Drug smuggling.
    The drugs crossing the Canada/US border to the US account for like .0002% of all drugs smuggled into the US. Trump is a moron. 

    .2%, of identified fentanyl seizures. That does not account for what was not identified, or other drugs that may contain fentanyl. Do people really think it is a bad thing if Canada and Mexico increased border security with drug smugglers as a specific target?   They have 30 days to put their money where their mouth is. Trump may very well be a moron, and I can see how people think this is bad politics. But if Canada and Mexico do even 20% of what they promised, then fewer drugs may enter our country. I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
    the point is the ends don't, in any way shape or form, justify his idiotic means. 

    What is idiotic about issuing executive orders to try and get traction from our neighbors?
    causing domestic and global chaos is not how one legislates. 
    Name 1 global chaos so far?  (And by the way - legislates is a Congressional thing. Executive Branch doesn't work that way. I know you're Canadian, but learn basic US civics before you enter the fray.  You look as dumb as AOC calling Elon stupid).

    Who the fuck in their right minds is against ANYTHING Trump has done so far?  You're all out of your fucking minds and need to step out of the echo chamber.

    Deport people who came in illegally (I assume you know what that word means)
    Address the overgrown Fentanyl crisis - (I do love the - it's only .2% or whatever stupid ratio - it's all bad. Let's get it all.)
    Audit and purge excessive spending of money we don't have
    Stop wars around the world, including proposing rebuilding Gaza properly so people there can live properly and not subject to Stone Age theories

    1% of spending, 1% of Fentanyl, who gives a shit? Why would anyone in their right mind argue with eliminating the waste and destruction?

    Y'all sucked into a cult and the reason you can't get out of it is you'd have to admit you were wrong all along.

    So, back to my first question - name 1 "global chaos" happening right now?  I mean, I know as racist Schumer said - all beer comes from Mexico and he's worried about losing his slave labor, but besides that.


    here's one. 

    Chaos? More like happy days are here again.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    god these people are so fucking stupid. the sun rises tomorrow and dipshit's going to take credit for it, and his sycophants will claim he invented the goddamn sunrise. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/politics/video/trump-canada-tariffs-pause-catherine-rampell-scott-jennings-digvid-tsr
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    god these people are so fucking stupid. the sun rises tomorrow and dipshit's going to take credit for it, and his sycophants will claim he invented the goddamn sunrise. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/politics/video/trump-canada-tariffs-pause-catherine-rampell-scott-jennings-digvid-tsr
    His defensive, high pitched squeal of a voice indicates that he doesn’t believe his own spin. Particularly with his facial expressions. If you raise your voice and speak fast, what you say is true.
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    “This is real and its happening “

    HAHAHAHAHAH
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,444
    god these people are so fucking stupid. the sun rises tomorrow and dipshit's going to take credit for it, and his sycophants will claim he invented the goddamn sunrise. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/politics/video/trump-canada-tariffs-pause-catherine-rampell-scott-jennings-digvid-tsr
    His defensive, high pitched squeal of a voice indicates that he doesn’t believe his own spin. Particularly with his facial expressions. If you raise your voice and speak fast, what you say is true.
    Yep. I can't stand watching any of these shows but Rampell is great in the clips I see of calling him out on his obvious bullshit. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    Watching a video of all these idiots that voted for trump, now feeling “betrayed” over his gaza takeover plan…my god you idiots. 

    You vote for a guy who calls countries shitholes, the people are poisoning the blood of the US…and now you’re shocked at his treatment of your people? how stupid can you be. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,168
    Watching a video of all these idiots that voted for trump, now feeling “betrayed” over his gaza takeover plan…my god you idiots. 

    You vote for a guy who calls countries shitholes, the people are poisoning the blood of the US…and now you’re shocked at his treatment of your people? how stupid can you be. 
    And we just got started. It's really depressing.


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,444
    Watching a video of all these idiots that voted for trump, now feeling “betrayed” over his gaza takeover plan…my god you idiots. 

    You vote for a guy who calls countries shitholes, the people are poisoning the blood of the US…and now you’re shocked at his treatment of your people? how stupid can you be. 
    And we just got started. It's really depressing.


    Fucking morons. 
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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,056
    mickeyrat said:
    This really isn't the burn this person thinks considering Elon is spearheading this. It probably proves more of the opposite, that funding is being wasted unnecessarily, but by all means, keep on preaching. I'm sure MAGA will turn on him for this 🙄. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    This really isn't the burn this person thinks considering Elon is spearheading this. It probably proves more of the opposite, that funding is being wasted unnecessarily, but by all means, keep on preaching. I'm sure MAGA will turn on him for this 🙄. 
    isnt that the point of all of it?
    waste?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,534
    mickeyrat said:
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    This really isn't the burn this person thinks considering Elon is spearheading this. It probably proves more of the opposite, that funding is being wasted unnecessarily, but by all means, keep on preaching. I'm sure MAGA will turn on him for this 🙄. 
    isnt that the point of all of it?
    waste?
    How do you know its tasteful when they don't know what event it was for?
    $11,000 if they were hosting foreign nationals would be a drop in the bucket compared to all other costs of the event. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,056
    edited February 6
    mickeyrat said:
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    This really isn't the burn this person thinks considering Elon is spearheading this. It probably proves more of the opposite, that funding is being wasted unnecessarily, but by all means, keep on preaching. I'm sure MAGA will turn on him for this 🙄. 
    isnt that the point of all of it?
    waste?
    Yeah, and democrats are involved in the waste as well. It's the process they're using (axe everything) and questionable authority of the person (Musk) with the access to make the decision. The focus here by dems needs to be that there should be further assessment of waste because this shows that there is, instead of by who to make a point. Quit making everything about Trump and focus on the process and legality of how it's being done. Tell people what should be happening in comparison to the shit show right now which is inefficient, wasteful in itself and more harmful than good.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs said:
    Yeah, and democrats are involved in the waste as well. It's the process they're using (axe everything) and questionable authority of the person (Musk) with the access to make the decision. The focus here by dems needs to be that there should be further assessment of waste because this shows that there is, instead of by who to make a point. Quit making everything about Trump and focus on the process and legality of how it's being done. Tell people what should be happening in comparison to the shit show right now which is inefficient, wasteful in itself and more harmful than good.
    Ditto.  That’s why it’s called bureaucratic red tape.  Both parties waste money, but the way this administration is going about examining the waste is wrong - while the poorest people and children who rely on foreign aid from our country are the ones suffering the most. In
    fact, this isn’t only costing money, but it’s costing lives. 
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    We're still working on our "messaging"

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    edited February 6
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    This really isn't the burn this person thinks considering Elon is spearheading this. It probably proves more of the opposite, that funding is being wasted unnecessarily, but by all means, keep on preaching. I'm sure MAGA will turn on him for this 🙄. 
    isnt that the point of all of it?
    waste?
    How do you know its tasteful when they don't know what event it was for?
    $11,000 if they were hosting foreign nationals would be a drop in the bucket compared to all other costs of the event. 

    WHY THE FUCK IS A SUPPOSED WHITE HOUSE EVENT GETTING MONEY FROM THERE?
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