L.A. Fires

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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812
    edited January 14
    shecky said:






    Yes, we get it. Andrea Margolis. Fox News. Non- biased and certainly not fake news,huh? This bullshit propaganda that weak minded people believe makes me sick. 

    SACRAMENTO — California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday expanded the special legislative session he called to defend the state's progressive policies against the incoming Trump administration, announcing that legislators would also prioritize addressing the state's wildfire crisis. 

    Newsom is calling for lawmakers to accelerate $1 billion in emergency response funding for the historic Los Angeles-area fires, new money to help rebuild and repair schools affected by those fires faster, and another $1.5 billion to go toward fortifying the state against future wildfire threats. It was not immediately clear how soon these proposals would be considered by the Legislature. 

    "California is organizing a Marshall Plan to help Los Angeles rebuild faster and stronger – including billions in new and accelerated state funding so we can move faster to deliver for the thousands who've lost their homes and livelihoods in these firestorms," Newsom said in a statement Monday. To the people of Los Angeles: We have your back."  

    Just a week out from President-elect Donald Trump's inauguration, Newsom's announcement came hours after California Democrats agreed to a $50 million deal to strengthen the state's legal defenses against the incoming administration and help push back against potential mass deportations. 

    The deal has been criticized by some Republicans who feel the state's priority should be focused entirely on the ongoing fire response in Southern California. 

    "The disconnect between what Californians need and what Democrats are focused on is astounding," said Assemblyman James Gallagher of Yuba City.

    But Democratic state Sen. Scott Wiener of San Francisco said there is no need to choose between priorities in the special session. 

    "My GOP colleagues say we have to choose between helping LA recover from wildfires & protecting CA from Trump. But we can do both. Indeed, we must do both, since Trump & co. are threatening federal aide for LA & threatening to deport a big portion of our construction workforce," Wiener said in a post to social media

    Before Newsom's announcement of the expanded legislative agenda, Republicans condemned the special session the governor said he called to "protect California values" amid Trump's return to office, calling it a "waste of money and a waste of time." 

    Senate Minority Leader Brian Jones (R-San Diego) said in a statement following Newsom's announcement Monday that "lumping this emergency response together with a politically motivated special session to sue Trump is unnecessary and, frankly, insulting to those struggling through this disaster." 

    Newsom and other California government leaders have faced criticism over the response to the Palisades and Eaton fires that have devastated the Los Angeles area.

    In a visit to the fire zone last week, cameras were rolling when Newsom had a tense confrontation with a mother who said her daughter's school had burned down. 

    Trump directed blame for the fires at Newsom, saying in a post to Truth Social that "Governor Gavin Newscum refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water, from excess rain and snow melt from the North, to flow daily into many parts of California." 

    Newsom's press office quickly responded by refuting that statement, which was among multiple fact-chacked by CBS News Confirmed. In an effort to counter false rumors and misinformation, the Federal Emergency Management Agency reactivated its online rumor response site while California launched its own fire facts site.

    In response to wildfire response criticism, Newsom has highlighted how quickly he got a major disaster declaration from President Biden. Other California Democrats have praised Newsom's actions to expedite wildfire recovery efforts. 

    CBS is fake news, too? Ha Ha!

  • mickeyrat
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  • brianlux
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812

    FIRST ON FOX: SpaceX founder and CEO Elon Musk is donating Starlinks to those in need of Wi-Fi in California amid devastating wildfires that have left residents without internet or cellphone service.

    Nonprofit rescue group Grey Bull Rescue met with Musk and first responders over the weekend to help set up the Starlink devices, which connect to satellites, in the Los Angeles area.

    "Effective communication is essential in any crisis, war, or disaster—especially in remote and devastated areas where communication infrastructure is destroyed like we see here in California," Grey Bull Rescue Chair Bryan Stern told Fox News Digital in a Monday statement. "Yesterday, Grey Bull Rescue was honored to assist the Los Angeles County Fire Department (LACFD) by securing Starlink mini units to provide them with critical communications in areas devastated by wildfires."

    Stern noted, however, that LACFD and other emergency services agencies in California "have been asking for Starlink for quite some time for expressly this type of scenario," but red tape got "in the way of this mission-critical need of effective disaster communications for first responders."

    Musk announced the Starlink donations on Jan. 9. On Sunday, the billionaire Tesla founder and CEO said that he would be donating Cybertrucks to impacted areas as well.

    "Apologies to those expecting Cybertruck deliveries in California over the next few days," he wrote on X, which he owns. "We need to use those trucks as mobile base stations to provide power to Starlink Internet terminals in areas of LA without connectivity. A new truck will be delivered end of week."

    Grey Bull Rescue said LACFD had requested help with a "mission-critical gap" for internet.

    "This is where the private sector shows its number one capability: SPEED."

    — Bryan Stern, Grey Bull Rescue chair

    "[Six] hours later, via Grey Bull Rescue, the problem was solved with the gold standard in austere environment communications: Starlink," Stern said. "Hearing about the need, Elon Musk then visited with Grey Bull Rescue and the LACFD at their staging site and personally delivered hundreds more additional Starlink minis, demonstrating his commitment to supporting rescue efforts."

    Grey Bull Rescue said LACFD had requested help with a "mission-critical gap" for internet. (Grey Bull Rescue)

    Grey Bull Rescue volunteers rely on Starlink internet for their missions "in some of the most communication-denied environments in the world," Stern said.

    Musk also donated numerous Starlinks in the western North Carolina region after Hurricane Helene in late September left thousands without power or internet for days, making it difficult for survivors to contact first responders and loved ones.

    "In addition to improving connectivity for first responders, the Grey Bull Rescue team has been on the ground since [day one] of the wildfires, working side by side with first responders to support them in the safe evacuation of residents and delivering critical humanitarian aid," the Grey Bull Rescue chair explained.

    "In moments like these, every action and every minute counts. We are committed to helping wherever we can, in any way we can, to assist those who have been impacted by this catastrophic disaster."

    The wildfires that have been burning for a week in Southern California have reduced entire neighborhoods to ash and killed at least 24 people. The Palisades Fire, the Eaton Fire and the Hurst Fire were the three active wildfires in L.A. County as of Monday.

  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,167
    $1.2 billion in aid. I am sure that will end up in the hands of the people that really need it.  :s
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited January 14
    shecky said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Fuck I hate some people. 

    Totally.

    I feel so devastated for all these people who lost so much. Because of all this, obviously, I had a really vivid nightmare last night about my home burning up, and I completely flipped my lid in the dream because I had lost all my legal documents, all my other belongings, and then i realized I'd also lost my record collection, and seriously lost my shit..... that really sucked, and then i woke up and after awhile realized how lucky I am that it isn't a reality. Then it made me feel sick that so many people are actually feeling that way in real life x a million. Motherfucker. 

    And that story about the amputee dad next to the bed of his cerebral palsy son, both dead in the fire, fucking destroys me. As well as all the others. So horrific. Omg.

    And btw, these looters i keep hearing about need to ROT IN HELL.

    PS - apparently Trump is ignoring pleas to visit or comment, and he's refusing. He also needs to ROT IN HELL
    People are perpetuating a lie when they state that "PS - apparently Trump is ignoring pleas to visit or comment, and he's refusing."

    I live in the San Francisco area and earlier this morning watched a live press conference by L.A.'s mayor and other officials on TV in which they disputed this spurious story. I've attached the freshly published online news story.

    Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass pushed back against questions about any "animosity" between the incoming Trump administration and California that could hamper efforts to battle the multiple wildfires raging in Los Angeles County. 

    Trump has heavily criticized leaders in Los Angeles and California over the response to the wildfires, saying the city and state were woefully unprepared. 

    On Sunday, Bass said she's "not worried" about any supposed animosity between Trump and local officials and said she has been in communication with his team. 

    Trump on Sunday posted on Truth Social that "incompetent polls" have no idea how to put out the L.A. wildfires. He had previously accused California Gov. Gavin Newsom of caring more about protecting an endangered fish species than protecting the state's residents from wildfires. 

    The incoming president has long railed against Democrats in California for limiting the availability of water for Californians that comes from the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers in the northern part of the state.

    Newsom and Los Angeles County supervisor Kathryn Barger have both extended separate invitations to Trump for him to visit the region to see the devastation the fires have caused. 

    "I joined in the invitation to the incoming president to come to Los Angeles," Bass said during Sunday's press update on the firefighting efforts. "I joined with the supervisor, and the governor and spoke directly with the incoming administration yesterday. It was a fine call."

    She added, "There are also, as I mentioned before, a number of my former colleagues who are up for confirmation. I feel like I will have good relations there."

    Bass and Barger said they believe Trump will visit the area. 

    "I will say, knowing what I know, and I represent Altadena, which is probably the most diverse, community, that in the fifth district, this is the exact constituency that he was talking to," said Barger. "You got socioeconomics from all walks of life, and they are suffering. So I am confident that this president will come."

    The mayor also took issue with questions about the supposed lack of communication between the city and the incoming Trump administration

    "There isn't a lack of communication between the city of Los Angeles and the incoming Trump administration," she said. "I have spoken with representatives of the incoming administration. I'll be talking more about that in the coming days."

    Louis Casiano is a reporter for Fox News Digital. Story tips can be sent to louis.casiano@fox.com.


    What I said wasn't a lie - nothing in the article you posted disputes what I said when I said it, and Trump still hasn't visited, and the only comments have been social media posts ciitcizing politicians and firefighting efforts.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    This is the kind of story we need to here more of.  Very cool of Barry (owner of Red Devil Records in San Rafael, CA) and his wife to do this:
    Greetings Music Lovers,
     
    My wife is working with a colleague in Los Angeles who opened their warehouse as a donation center for those affected by the fires. So Red Devil is now a donation location for one week.

    They are looking for new or used clothing for men, women and children. If used they ask that you please make sure they are in very good condition. No stains, holes, etc. This week’s focus is teenage boys clothing. Again they ask that you please only bring new or nearly new clothing and shoes. And VISA gift cards if you like. Some people have only received $15. a day for families of four, which of course is ridiculous. The address for those who need help: 31200 La Baya Drive, suite #301, Westlake Village CD.
     
    You can drop off your donations at our store at 894 – 4th Street in San Rafael this week, today through Sunday during business hours, 11 to 6. You don’t need an appointment. My wife will box them up with the donations she receives and send them to L.A. next week.
     
    I know many of you know people in Los Angeles that have been affected by the fires. Though I’ve lived my entire adult life in the Bay Area I was born and raised in L.A. Almost everybody I know there has been evacuated.
     
    Thank you for your generosity in advance.
     
    Sincerely,
    Barry


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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,795
    Meanwhile, their hosts spread conspiracy theory. Promote bullshit ideas and denigrate those fighting these fires
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  • brianlux
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  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,815
    edited January 15
    damn.. AET has become AMT. What started out as a positive thread has turned into an AMT location. If I'm wrong, please disregard my ignorance. Move this thread to AMT maybe? This discussion is no longer about those dealing with the fire, it's turned into opinions and politics. Move this to AMT and keep AET a place where discussion is still civil about random things that don't involve AMT anger? Once again, forgive my ignorance if I am out of place. Take care of each other, we need each other folks. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    edited January 15
    Attaway77 said:
    damn.. AET has become AMT. What started out as a positive thread has turned into an AMT location. If I'm wrong, please disregard my ignorance. Move this thread to AMT maybe? This discussion is no longer about those dealing with the fire, it's turned into opinions and politics. Move this to AMT and keep AET a place where discussion is still civil about random things that don't involve AMT anger? Once again, forgive my ignorance if I am out of place. Take care of each other, we need each other folks. 

    The AMT thread got shut down but still, fair enough Attaway.  I'll cop to being one of the guilty ones here.  I deleted any post of mine that was at all political.  If everyone agrees to do the same or at least not make any more political posts from here going out, I'll be on board here.  If we can't to that, I'll just move on.
    Thanks for the good suggestion.

    Also, I'm going to expire here on 3/25/25.  When I started here, I was a better person and I don't like who I've become here lately.  In a couple of months, I'll be leaving and working on becoming that better me again.
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,965
    The world is toxic now and it leaks . Well done to anyone checking themselves. Most don't and keep the vile narrative going. 
    This thread should be full of love and kindness. 


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  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,815
    edited January 15
    brianlux said:
    Attaway77 said:
    damn.. AET has become AMT. What started out as a positive thread has turned into an AMT location. If I'm wrong, please disregard my ignorance. Move this thread to AMT maybe? This discussion is no longer about those dealing with the fire, it's turned into opinions and politics. Move this to AMT and keep AET a place where discussion is still civil about random things that don't involve AMT anger? Once again, forgive my ignorance if I am out of place. Take care of each other, we need each other folks. 

    The AMT thread got shut down but still, fair enough Attaway.  I'll cop to being one of the guilty ones here.  I deleted any post of mine that was at all political.  If everyone agrees to do the same or at least not make any more political posts from here going out, I'll be on board here.  If we can't to that, I'll just move on.
    Thanks for the good suggestion.
    All good my man, all opinions and discussions on any issues are important, that's what makes PJ forum a great place for fans to speak. We're all adults. I'm just simply suggesting maybe move this to AMT, that's where a lot of the "get down to the dirt and let's discuss" subjects happen. I look at AET as a place for random stuff (did I turn my library book in, shit, I had that on dvd now I need blu ray, movie scene, did you see that flying comet the other day, how's the weather in your town, are the pets doing ok, cats, dogs, new shoes, football and food) kind of stuff. I see AMT as, shit is getting real so be ready to discuss and know what you're talking about if you are coming in. That's just me, ignore my ignorance. Hope all is well with ya my man.
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  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,815
    edited January 15
    brianlux said:

    Also, I'm going to expire here on 3/25/25.  When I started here, I was a better person and I don't like who I've become here lately.  In a couple of months, I'll be leaving and working on becoming that better me again.
    Naw brother, no need for that. This is a great place for discussion, don't rob yourself of that just for others point of views, we all have them. Stick around, chime in every once in a while, doesn't have to be everyday. You're old school here brother, stick around a little longer, we all could use some wisdom from each other. Soon enough most of us will no longer be on this forum and this band will no longer be part of our lives. Stick around until then, word has it PJ has at least another 2-3 albums left in them, that's some good years still ahead of us. Cheers buddy.. BUT, do what you have to do for you, if leaving here will make you happier, go do it. 
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    2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15)
    2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22)
    2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16)

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    The world is toxic now and it leaks . Well done to anyone checking themselves. Most don't and keep the vile narrative going. 
    This thread should be full of love and kindness. 
    :hug:
    Attaway77 said:
    brianlux said:

    Also, I'm going to expire here on 3/25/25.  When I started here, I was a better person and I don't like who I've become here lately.  In a couple of months, I'll be leaving and working on becoming that better me again.
    Naw brother, no need for that. This is a great place for discussion, don't rob yourself of that just for others point of views, we all have them. Stick around, chime in every once in a while, doesn't have to be everyday. You're old school here brother, stick around a little longer, we all could use some wisdom from each other. Soon enough most of us will no longer be on this forum and this band will no longer be part of our lives. Stick around until then, word has it PJ has at least another 2-3 albums left in them, that's some good years still ahead of us. Cheers buddy.. BUT, do what you have to do for you, if leaving here will make you happier, go do it. 

    Totally agreed, bud.  It was a good call.  :plus_one:
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  • Poncier
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    shecky said:

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  • mickeyrat
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14