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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,499

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,997
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Get_Right said:
    Attaway77 said:
    brianlux said:
    Attaway77 said:
    damn.. AET has become AMT. What started out as a positive thread has turned into an AMT location. If I'm wrong, please disregard my ignorance. Move this thread to AMT maybe? This discussion is no longer about those dealing with the fire, it's turned into opinions and politics. Move this to AMT and keep AET a place where discussion is still civil about random things that don't involve AMT anger? Once again, forgive my ignorance if I am out of place. Take care of each other, we need each other folks. 

    The AMT thread got shut down but still, fair enough Attaway.  I'll cop to being one of the guilty ones here.  I deleted any post of mine that was at all political.  If everyone agrees to do the same or at least not make any more political posts from here going out, I'll be on board here.  If we can't to that, I'll just move on.
    Thanks for the good suggestion.
    All good my man, all opinions and discussions on any issues are important, that's what makes PJ forum a great place for fans to speak. We're all adults. I'm just simply suggesting maybe move this to AMT, that's where a lot of the "get down to the dirt and let's discuss" subjects happen. I look at AET as a place for random stuff (did I turn my library book in, shit, I had that on dvd now I need blu ray, movie scene, did you see that flying comet the other day, how's the weather in your town, are the pets doing ok, cats, dogs, new shoes, football and food) kind of stuff. I see AMT as, shit is getting real so be ready to discuss and know what you're talking about if you are coming in. That's just me, ignore my ignorance. Hope all is well with ya my man.

    Agree. Express your views. Don't be an asshole or attack others for their views. Don't source bullshit social media that is just based on data mining. A well expressed opinion with knowledge is welcome. Don't go @brianlux.
    I'm sorry, but at the very least I need a good long break from this place starting mid March when my renewal date comes up.  There's too much trolling, too much anger, and too much hate here (the MAGA trolling is out of hand).  And other than trolling, which I don't do, I'm too often guilty of anger and angst.  I don't like who I am here.  I'll lurk now and then too see if things improve, and assess my own level of patience attitude. 
    Brian, I enjoyed your posts, but also understand you need to do what's best for you.


    Thank you!
    I have appreciated your posts and perspectives on these forums.

    Sometimes I find distance from the past and nostalgia make the past years seems better than it was. We had many rebel rousers years ago (my few hands comes to mind, many others). Perhaps the sting currently is how bad tomorrow noon will be. It’s infuriating the events that lead to tomorrow, but it is what it is.

    for now Brian, let’s have a song dedication to your good posts over the years…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGWnd4IJ1Vk



    roland2kdrummer? that dude was FIRM in his opinions and didnt hesitate to point out your flawed arguments.  this place is very tame to how it used to be before pay to post.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,491
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Get_Right said:
    Attaway77 said:
    brianlux said:
    Attaway77 said:
    damn.. AET has become AMT. What started out as a positive thread has turned into an AMT location. If I'm wrong, please disregard my ignorance. Move this thread to AMT maybe? This discussion is no longer about those dealing with the fire, it's turned into opinions and politics. Move this to AMT and keep AET a place where discussion is still civil about random things that don't involve AMT anger? Once again, forgive my ignorance if I am out of place. Take care of each other, we need each other folks. 

    The AMT thread got shut down but still, fair enough Attaway.  I'll cop to being one of the guilty ones here.  I deleted any post of mine that was at all political.  If everyone agrees to do the same or at least not make any more political posts from here going out, I'll be on board here.  If we can't to that, I'll just move on.
    Thanks for the good suggestion.
    All good my man, all opinions and discussions on any issues are important, that's what makes PJ forum a great place for fans to speak. We're all adults. I'm just simply suggesting maybe move this to AMT, that's where a lot of the "get down to the dirt and let's discuss" subjects happen. I look at AET as a place for random stuff (did I turn my library book in, shit, I had that on dvd now I need blu ray, movie scene, did you see that flying comet the other day, how's the weather in your town, are the pets doing ok, cats, dogs, new shoes, football and food) kind of stuff. I see AMT as, shit is getting real so be ready to discuss and know what you're talking about if you are coming in. That's just me, ignore my ignorance. Hope all is well with ya my man.

    Agree. Express your views. Don't be an asshole or attack others for their views. Don't source bullshit social media that is just based on data mining. A well expressed opinion with knowledge is welcome. Don't go @brianlux.
    I'm sorry, but at the very least I need a good long break from this place starting mid March when my renewal date comes up.  There's too much trolling, too much anger, and too much hate here (the MAGA trolling is out of hand).  And other than trolling, which I don't do, I'm too often guilty of anger and angst.  I don't like who I am here.  I'll lurk now and then too see if things improve, and assess my own level of patience attitude. 
    Brian, I enjoyed your posts, but also understand you need to do what's best for you.


    Thank you!
    I have appreciated your posts and perspectives on these forums.

    Sometimes I find distance from the past and nostalgia make the past years seems better than it was. We had many rebel rousers years ago (my few hands comes to mind, many others). Perhaps the sting currently is how bad tomorrow noon will be. It’s infuriating the events that lead to tomorrow, but it is what it is.

    for now Brian, let’s have a song dedication to your good posts over the years…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGWnd4IJ1Vk



    You may well be right about nostalgia and looking back, L.  But in the past, what the Pearl Jam forums did NOT have here were rabid fans of a collapsing America governed under anti-Democracy/ oligarchy/ kakistocracy/ dictatorship rule.  I don't know... it's very hard for me to visual staying on here with what tomorrow and the coming years will bring, and wondering what kind of affect it will have here.  I suppose I could cough up the bucks yet again to post about the weather and whatever music I and other people are listening to, but AMT has always been the major draw for me here, and that place has become a toxic pit.  I'll still on here through mid-March, so it's conceivable I could change my mind.  The biggest obstacle to that is that I'm pretty stubborn when I feel strongly about a decision on which I've made up my mind.  But I do have a couple months still, so who knows.

    In any case, thank you, L!  I appreciate that dedication on a couple of levels.  First, I'm honored by the dedication- thank you! Secondly, because all along, I would have sworn "Come Back" was a cover from a much earlier song.  I just looked it up and it's credited to having been written by McCready and Vedder.  I don't know what other song I was thinking of, but I love this song more than ever now!
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,499

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    edited February 7
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,227
    approaching six months since the fires .... there have been 47 building permits issued so far in LA County.  The City isn't even posting their results.  Over 13,000 structures were destroyed.

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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,499
    Jason P said:
    approaching six months since the fires .... there have been 47 building permits issued so far in LA County.  The City isn't even posting their results.  Over 13,000 structures were destroyed.

    As incomprehensibly tragic this entire Malibu and Pacific Palisades situation is, I couldn't help but laugh while perusing the official California government website you linked to.
    The very first sentence on the website is a complete and total lie: "LA’s recovery is Governor Newsom’s top priority."

    The truth is, the only thing Greasy Gavin cares about is running for president of the U.S.A.

    And, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass is no better.

    Sometimes in life pessimism is warranted.
    The people of Los Angeles are f*cked. 


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,594
    shecky said:
    Jason P said:
    approaching six months since the fires .... there have been 47 building permits issued so far in LA County.  The City isn't even posting their results.  Over 13,000 structures were destroyed.

    As incomprehensibly tragic this entire Malibu and Pacific Palisades situation is, I couldn't help but laugh while perusing the official California government website you linked to.
    The very first sentence on the website is a complete and total lie: "LA’s recovery is Governor Newsom’s top priority."

    The truth is, the only thing Greasy Gavin cares about is running for president of the U.S.A.

    And, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass is no better.

    Sometimes in life pessimism is warranted.
    The people of Los Angeles are f*cked. 


    Because there couldn’t possibly be any other possible contributing factors like debris clearing, toxic waste clean up, insurance payout delays, bank loan red-tape or a shortage of building materials or skilled labor, eh? Because you know, 13,000+ building structures burning to the ground all at once is a regular occurrence, one that Cali has had a lot of practice with. Oh, and the top priority for the state office handling their website is to update the number of building permits issued.

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