#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

Gern Blansten

Choccoloccotide said:

Has Brandon ever looked happier?

Has trump even realized that he was too much of a crybaby to extend the same courtesy to Biden four years ago? 

LOL...what a fucking tool

Hawk123

The thing that blows my mind is how many republicans are just true pieces of shit right to the core. They take sick joy in peoples suffering. They get a kick out of racism, oppressing women’s rights, degrading women, forcing families to be ripped apart, countries getting taken over. Until it hits you or your friends and family, it’ll humble you pretty quickly. 

Gern Blansten

tbergs said:

Philly NJ said:

tbergs said:

Choccoloccotide said:

brianlux said:

Woopie!  Way to go MAGAs!  Turn the country over to billionaires who are (NOT) going to make your lives better.

"There's a sucker born every minute." ~ P.T. Barnum

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/nov/12/donald-trump-marco-rubio-juan-merchan-stormy-daniels-us-politics-live

Trump nominates Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to lead new efficiency department to ‘restructure federal agencies’ – live

Simping for the status quo and more govt bureaucracy isn’t the flex you think it is.

Do you think billionaires should just be given a new federal agency simply because they donated millions? Are you OK with the US moving towards plutocracy?

Seems the GOP might actually be the one letting the elite run things, but carry on with your victory laps. The next Democrat will need to fix the economy again. It's historically proven that's what the GOP does.

To common sense Americans, it is very obvious that taxpayer money is wasted, either by corruption or inefficiency. Elon Musk can't be bought, can't be intimidated by the Deep State. He has a proven track record.  Vivek is smart, successful and recognizes that government bureaucracy has been a noose around Americans neck for far too long.

Is there a dispute on whether there is bloat and waste at the federal level? No, that is mostly accurate at any level of business, whether private, state or fed, but what you don't do is put a person with a conflict of interest in charge of addressing it. You are obviously lost in the weeds if you think Elon wouldn't do everything in his power to make sure his legacy is cemented as the first trillionaire. No one person can buy him, sure, that's why he's moved on to the US federal government and foreign governments. Through de-regulation, reduced taxes and contracts, he will rake in billions. Only a moron would think anything he does won't line his coffers first and foremost, but maybe you'll a few thousand float down to you so you don't care.

Your last sentence screams that you do indeed think a plutocracy should be the path the US takes.

I wonder if Elon and Vivek will suggest that trump not spend a bunch of money on gold curtains in the Oval

Gern Blansten

Rick Scott out....will be Cornyn or Thune apparently

HughFreakingDillon

Philly NJ said:

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer:

District Attorney Larry Krasner’s election-related lawsuit against Elon Musk — in which Philadelphia’s top prosecutor accused the tech billionaire of running an illegal lottery by giving money to Pennsylvania voters — failed to establish proof that the contest met even the most basic definition of a lottery, the judge overseeing the case said.

Common Pleas Court Judge Angelo Foglietta, who last week rejected Krasner’s request for an injunction against Musk and his America PAC, wrote in an opinion filed late Tuesday that Krasner and his attorneys offered little evidence and made “unpersuasive” arguments in their attempt to have Musk’s daily $1 million giveaway barred from operating in the state.

Although Krasner accused Musk of misleading contest entrants by suggesting that anyone had a chance to win, Foglietta said, PAC officials provided documents and “credible testimony” to show that winners were actually chosen through a multi-step vetting process — and then expected to serve as spokespersons for the PAC, making them de facto employees.

Moreover, he said, the DA presented no witnesses to support the notion that entrants felt duped, Foglietta said, and he ignored or downplayed portions of Musk’s comments explaining that winners would need to speak on behalf of the PAC, which was established to promote the candidacy of Republican nominee Donald Trump.

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Krasner is a horrible person.

if George Clooney did this for the left you all would have cried foul. FACT

Gern Blansten

Kid Rock to head FBI

OnWis97

Gern Blansten said:

Kid Rock to head FBI

Does the fact that I am 99.9% certain you're joking mean that we have not yet hit rock bottom?

JeBurkhardt

tbergs said:

OnWis97 said:

pjl44 said:

The disproportionate amount of attention being paid to a glorified blue ribbon panel just because the guy is famous should be a wake up call to the shallow nature of a lot of political discourse

He's probably the most power person in the world right now. And Vivek has said that the first thing the administration should do is fire a third of federal employees. This is happening. And Elon's going to become the world's first trillionaire. The conflict of interest is happening in plain sight.

There are 2.8 million civilian federal employees. I'd be stunned if that number is over 2 million by the equinox. (Not to mention public and private people that will lose their jobs as a result).

It's happening.

Yeah, I don't get the disregard some people have. The senate majority leader vote today will tell us a lot about what to expect the next 4 years. If Rick Scott gets it, anything goes. This isn't going to be like his first term, he is filling positions with sycophants and trying to get rid of anyone who doesn't pledge loyalty to everything he wants. In his first term, sensible republicans put the country over party, but he doesn't want those people, he wants party over country. I guess we'll get to see how far some of them are willing to go. Hopefully they will do their duty for the country if push comes to shove.

Trump doesn't want party over country, he wants himself and his self interest over everything, PERIOD.

Spiritual_Chaos

Choccoloccotide said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Choccoloccotide said:

You’re just another shill who can’t handle the fact that not everyone thinks like leftist degenerate.  It really makes you angry doesn’t it?

Why is everything you write in here a projection

Again concern yourself with Europe.  This is a discussion for Americans.

Why? 

Gern Blansten

John Thune majority leader...nice to see the GOP give fuckface trump some pushback

OnWis97

JeBurkhardt said:

tbergs said:

OnWis97 said:

pjl44 said:

The disproportionate amount of attention being paid to a glorified blue ribbon panel just because the guy is famous should be a wake up call to the shallow nature of a lot of political discourse

He's probably the most power person in the world right now. And Vivek has said that the first thing the administration should do is fire a third of federal employees. This is happening. And Elon's going to become the world's first trillionaire. The conflict of interest is happening in plain sight.

There are 2.8 million civilian federal employees. I'd be stunned if that number is over 2 million by the equinox. (Not to mention public and private people that will lose their jobs as a result).

It's happening.

Yeah, I don't get the disregard some people have. The senate majority leader vote today will tell us a lot about what to expect the next 4 years. If Rick Scott gets it, anything goes. This isn't going to be like his first term, he is filling positions with sycophants and trying to get rid of anyone who doesn't pledge loyalty to everything he wants. In his first term, sensible republicans put the country over party, but he doesn't want those people, he wants party over country. I guess we'll get to see how far some of them are willing to go. Hopefully they will do their duty for the country if push comes to shove.

Trump doesn't want party over country, he wants himself and his self interest over everything, PERIOD.

This is true. The rest of the party though...

...there's a reason they say "America First" so often, methinks.

Gern Blansten

JeBurkhardt said:

tbergs said:

OnWis97 said:

pjl44 said:

The disproportionate amount of attention being paid to a glorified blue ribbon panel just because the guy is famous should be a wake up call to the shallow nature of a lot of political discourse

He's probably the most power person in the world right now. And Vivek has said that the first thing the administration should do is fire a third of federal employees. This is happening. And Elon's going to become the world's first trillionaire. The conflict of interest is happening in plain sight.

There are 2.8 million civilian federal employees. I'd be stunned if that number is over 2 million by the equinox. (Not to mention public and private people that will lose their jobs as a result).

It's happening.

Yeah, I don't get the disregard some people have. The senate majority leader vote today will tell us a lot about what to expect the next 4 years. If Rick Scott gets it, anything goes. This isn't going to be like his first term, he is filling positions with sycophants and trying to get rid of anyone who doesn't pledge loyalty to everything he wants. In his first term, sensible republicans put the country over party, but he doesn't want those people, he wants party over country. I guess we'll get to see how far some of them are willing to go. Hopefully they will do their duty for the country if push comes to shove.

Trump doesn't want party over country, he wants himself and his self interest over everything, PERIOD.

Yep...he doesn't give two shits about the GOP or leaving any legacy for anyone else to follow

josevolution

The good thing about this outcome is that he’s inheriting a good economy from a democratic administration! What ever happens during the next 4 years whether good or bad it will be on him, he won’t be able to blame anyone else we can all mark the numbers on 1/21/25!
gas prices ,food prices , the market, employment numbers, job creation numbers. 

Russia withdrawal or Ukraine surrender those are the only two options for stopping the war! He stated the war would be over as soon as he takes over. Let’s see what happens 

Gern Blansten

josevolution said:

The good thing about this outcome is that he’s inheriting a good economy from a democratic administration! What ever happens during the next 4 years whether good or bad it will be on him, he won’t be able to blame anyone else we can all mark the numbers on 1/21/25!
gas prices ,food prices , the market, employment numbers, job creation numbers. 

Russia withdrawal or Ukraine surrender those are the only two options for stopping the war! He stated the war would be over as soon as he takes over. Let’s see what happens 

but he will blame Biden...no doubt about it. And the magats will fall right in line

brianlux

pjl44 said:

Trump and his team quite obviously put Elon and Vivek on a side quest for 2 years. Would you people have been happier if they had been given actual cabinet positions? He realistically owes a lot to these guys and, if you're a Democrat, this is a far better outcome for them than many alternatives.

I would be hesitant to underestimate the damage those two can do in these positions.  I would suggest reading Heather Cox Richardson's latest letter.  I'm not seeing anything OK about what the felon is doing here.

brianlux

Hawk123 said:

The thing that blows my mind is how many republicans are just true pieces of shit right to the core. They take sick joy in peoples suffering. They get a kick out of racism, oppressing women’s rights, degrading women, forcing families to be ripped apart, countries getting taken over. Until it hits you or your friends and family, it’ll humble you pretty quickly. 

I hear you Hawk.  I'm very worried for some friends who are far more vulnerable than some old white dude like me (and I feel vulnerable anyway but, really, we all are now).

Gern Blansten

I suspected this but reporting is that Melania won't be at WH full time....lol

I don't blame her. She despises his fat old ass and probably has her boyfriend nice and close in NYC

HughFreakingDillon

this is how it's done, maga dopes:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c8ek95kw8w4o

as usual in the US, it's the liberals that have to be the adults in the room. 

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

this is how it's done, maga dopes:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c8ek95kw8w4o

yep...hats off to trump for being civil which is rare....let's hope he doesn't give a douchey attacking speech at the inauguration now

josevolution

Gern Blansten said:

josevolution said:

The good thing about this outcome is that he’s inheriting a good economy from a democratic administration! What ever happens during the next 4 years whether good or bad it will be on him, he won’t be able to blame anyone else we can all mark the numbers on 1/21/25!
gas prices ,food prices , the market, employment numbers, job creation numbers. 

Russia withdrawal or Ukraine surrender those are the only two options for stopping the war! He stated the war would be over as soon as he takes over. Let’s see what happens 

but he will blame Biden...no doubt about it. And the magats will fall right in line

That’s his go to card!