DONALD J. TRUMP & JD VANCE 2024

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,549
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Exactly... I'm not suggesting he's racist I'm pointing out that he is complacent to the white supremacy belief. He didn't say "don't vote for me I love her" he basically said yeah she's not one us but I love her 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,066
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Exactly... I'm not suggesting he's racist I'm pointing out that he is complacent to the white supremacy belief. He didn't say "don't vote for me I love her" he basically said yeah she's not one us but I love her 
    his old college buddy says jd has completely flipped his position on every issue. if he tolerates that racism because he needs the votes, it is tacit approval.

    dems don't stand for that stuff.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    edited July 2024
    The idea that Vance doesn’t know exactly who he & trump are pandering to is laughable. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Vance needs to be challenged with some questions related to childless GOP women....start with Ginny Thomas. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385

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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    George is putting his money where his mouth is, and I'm here for it.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385

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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,334
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    It depends doesn't it? If you have a problem with a "lie" a democrat told but you don't have a similar problem with a lie that tRump told then yeah...you're going to get comments about that.
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    But trumpollini incited an insurrection! Did I use but correctly? I’m here to learn. 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,549
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    Key word you used is ‘defense’. Vance needed to defend the attacks on his wife, and did so with a nod to the critics. 

    ‘But Trump’ is used in a different context as a counter-argument, as in ‘you’re supporting a guy who does the same or worse’. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    The insistence that there’s a democrat or left wing equivalent to trump or the maga movement isn’t based in reality. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,066
    The insistence that there’s a democrat or left wing equivalent to trump or the maga movement isn’t based in reality. 
    they will tell you barrack HUSSEIN obama is worse.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    edited July 2024
    The insistence that there’s a democrat or left wing equivalent to trump or the maga movement isn’t based in reality. 
    they will tell you barrack HUSSEIN obama is worse.
    I actually saw someone use the Barack Obama uses a teleprompter insult this morning...thought that golden oldie was dead

    Which is a good example of a situation requiring a "what about tRump" response
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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