DONALD J. TRUMP & JD VANCE 2024

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    FiveBelow said:
    The insistence that there’s a democrat or left wing equivalent to trump or the maga movement isn’t based in reality. 
    Where is this insistence of an equivalent you speak of? It seems to me, this false equivalence is evoked by those who only prefer to direct their criticism outwardly. Again, it is possible to critique things independently.
    Where? Open your eyes. Maga has spent the last four years telling us he's worse than Trump in every way shape and form. Countless investigations that went nowhere...
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,294
    FiveBelow said:
    The insistence that there’s a democrat or left wing equivalent to trump or the maga movement isn’t based in reality. 
    Where is this insistence of an equivalent you speak of? It seems to me, this false equivalence is evoked by those who only prefer to direct their criticism outwardly. Again, it is possible to critique things independently.
    Where? Open your eyes. Maga has spent the last four years telling us he's worse than Trump in every way shape and form. Countless investigations that went nowhere...
    I assumed his comment was directed at what I said. If it wasn’t, that’s on me. If it was, tell me how my comments point to this equivalency.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,578
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    It depends doesn't it? If you have a problem with a "lie" a democrat told but you don't have a similar problem with a lie that tRump told then yeah...you're going to get comments about that.
    I have a problem with anyone who lies or deceives, party affiliation is irrelevant to me. Criticizing one while giving a pass to the other simply because they suck less doesn't make sense to me. I see a lot of that around here.

    Politicians have always played fast & loose with the truth; having said that, do you think the lies perpetrated by the GOP about our last presidential election and the attempt to get trump back in the White House is just politics as usual? 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    edited July 31


    Probably not a smart thing to say at the NABJ but it's tRump...he's stoopid as fuck

    another "someone should look at that" moronic comment
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,294
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    It depends doesn't it? If you have a problem with a "lie" a democrat told but you don't have a similar problem with a lie that tRump told then yeah...you're going to get comments about that.
    I have a problem with anyone who lies or deceives, party affiliation is irrelevant to me. Criticizing one while giving a pass to the other simply because they suck less doesn't make sense to me. I see a lot of that around here.

    Politicians have always played fast & loose with the truth; having said that, do you think the lies perpetrated by the GOP about our last presidential election and the attempt to get trump back in the White House is just politics as usual? 
    In a sense, yes. Deploying tactics (whether honest or not) to retain/gain control is the goal of both parties. To the previously acceptable extent? No, not that I am aware of. Does this action absolve the democratic party of their hand in current political affairs? We’re talking about a duopoly here, one that breeds skepticism.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,905
    damn talk about idiotic things to say! How does someone turn black maybe if you sun tanned everyday for 5 years 😂 Sheckels thanks for posting about this conference 😂 
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    Former president not president! 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,578
    edited July 31
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    It depends doesn't it? If you have a problem with a "lie" a democrat told but you don't have a similar problem with a lie that tRump told then yeah...you're going to get comments about that.
    I have a problem with anyone who lies or deceives, party affiliation is irrelevant to me. Criticizing one while giving a pass to the other simply because they suck less doesn't make sense to me. I see a lot of that around here.

    Politicians have always played fast & loose with the truth; having said that, do you think the lies perpetrated by the GOP about our last presidential election and the attempt to get trump back in the White House is just politics as usual? 
    In a sense, yes. Deploying tactics (whether honest or not) to retain/gain control is the goal of both parties. To the previously acceptable extent? No, not that I am aware of. Does this action absolve the democratic party of their hand in current political affairs? We’re talking about a duopoly here, one that breeds skepticism.
    Sure, it’s a duopoly, but one party despite their many, many faults is at least trying to run the federal government, the other is trying to run it into the ground.
    Our country has always had a peaceful transfer of power until 2021, and the GOP are trying to reinstall the main architect of that unrest. Skepticism can be healthy, but when the same guy who tried to overturn the last election is telling us in so many words there won’t be another election after 2024, it would seem wise to dismiss the skepticism & take him at face value; most especially considering SCOTUS’ recent ruling about presidential immunity. 
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645


    This is great...I love how Luckovich picked up on Vance's eyeliner
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    LOL tRump's people put an end to the interview off stage...fucking disaster
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,319
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    It depends doesn't it? If you have a problem with a "lie" a democrat told but you don't have a similar problem with a lie that tRump told then yeah...you're going to get comments about that.
    I have a problem with anyone who lies or deceives, party affiliation is irrelevant to me. Criticizing one while giving a pass to the other simply because they suck less doesn't make sense to me. I see a lot of that around here.

    Politicians have always played fast & loose with the truth; having said that, do you think the lies perpetrated by the GOP about our last presidential election and the attempt to get trump back in the White House is just politics as usual? 
    In a sense, yes. Deploying tactics (whether honest or not) to retain/gain control is the goal of both parties. To the previously acceptable extent? No, not that I am aware of. Does this action absolve the democratic party of their hand in current political affairs? We’re talking about a duopoly here, one that breeds skepticism.
    WTF? One half of the “duopoly” stormed the capitol, tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power, regularly restricts voting rights and purges voter rolls, continues to make claims of widespread voter fraud and is already claiming if their candidate doesn’t win, the election is rigged, all while the head of their party and POTUS nominee brags to its base that in four years they won’t have to worry about voting again because it’ll be “fixed.”

    What exactly do the Dems need to do to absolve themselves of “their hand in current political affairs?”

    Where’s the calling out of Repubs for their malfeasance? Or are both sides of the duopoly the same?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    edited July 31



    Just unbelievable stupidity....what an absolute moron

    but yeah...the GOP is the "law and order" party!
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    It depends doesn't it? If you have a problem with a "lie" a democrat told but you don't have a similar problem with a lie that tRump told then yeah...you're going to get comments about that.
    I have a problem with anyone who lies or deceives, party affiliation is irrelevant to me. Criticizing one while giving a pass to the other simply because they suck less doesn't make sense to me. I see a lot of that around here.
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    Key word you used is ‘defense’. Vance needed to defend the attacks on his wife, and did so with a nod to the critics. 

    ‘But Trump’ is used in a different context as a counter-argument, as in ‘you’re supporting a guy who does the same or worse’. 
    Another common misconception is that simple criticism of the democratic party equates to support for the republican party. It doesn't. It is possible to critique them independently.

    I have no problem with critiquing issues independently. I with self declared independents were able to do that more often instead of trying to irrationally claim both sides are the same. 
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    If he was any more thin skin he’d be see through 😂😂 real macho man 🤡
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    shecky said:

    This aged well
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    maga is the wile e coyote of politics. always doing things that blow up in their face. every single day.

    and people want people like this to be in charge. weird.
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,294
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    FiveBelow said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t see anything wrong with what he said:
    ”Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is,” he told host Megyn Kelly on her show Friday. “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    Usha Vance has faced a slew of far-right attacks targeting her Indian heritage following her husband’s nomination to the Republican ticket. 

    “Who is this guy, really? Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?” prominent white supremacist Nick Fuentes said of Vance

    In the context of the article you linked, what’s wrong with what he said?

    I pointed out what's wrong already...you are in full apologist mode. Dude said she's not white BUT I love her. The "BUT" suggests a "hey yeah she's not one of us but I love her" vibe.
    The problem is you (probably intentionally, but I don’t know that for fact) misquoted him to make it sound worse.
    You wrote “she's not white but I love her”

    What he actually said “Look, I love my wife so much. I love her because she’s who she is. Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha.”

    He’s defending their relationship against white supremacists. Omitting the middle part and directly connecting the “she’s not white” to the “I love her”like you did changes the tone and meaning.

    You’re taking someone in an interracial marriage and misquote them to make it sound like he’s racist. Seems ironic to me.
    The word “but” doesn’t enter the person’s brain unless they’re validating what the critics said or they themselves think her race is a deficiency. 
    Does this also apply to anyone whose go-to defense is “but trump, or but the republicans” any time someone breaks the cardinal sin of criticizing democrats around here? 
    It depends doesn't it? If you have a problem with a "lie" a democrat told but you don't have a similar problem with a lie that tRump told then yeah...you're going to get comments about that.
    I have a problem with anyone who lies or deceives, party affiliation is irrelevant to me. Criticizing one while giving a pass to the other simply because they suck less doesn't make sense to me. I see a lot of that around here.

    Politicians have always played fast & loose with the truth; having said that, do you think the lies perpetrated by the GOP about our last presidential election and the attempt to get trump back in the White House is just politics as usual? 
    In a sense, yes. Deploying tactics (whether honest or not) to retain/gain control is the goal of both parties. To the previously acceptable extent? No, not that I am aware of. Does this action absolve the democratic party of their hand in current political affairs? We’re talking about a duopoly here, one that breeds skepticism.
    WTF? One half of the “duopoly” stormed the capitol, tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power, regularly restricts voting rights and purges voter rolls, continues to make claims of widespread voter fraud and is already claiming if their candidate doesn’t win, the election is rigged, all while the head of their party and POTUS nominee brags to its base that in four years they won’t have to worry about voting again because it’ll be “fixed.”

    What exactly do the Dems need to do to absolve themselves of “their hand in current political affairs?”

    Where’s the calling out of Repubs for their malfeasance? Or are both sides of the duopoly the same?
    Our duopoly has been around longer than the last 2 administrations, Hal. Much longer, and neither is anywhere close to batting 1.000. Take it up with one of the handful (maybe) who actually supports/defends the gop around here.
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990


    Probably not a smart thing to say at the NABJ but it's tRump...he's stoopid as fuck

    another "someone should look at that" moronic comment

    It was just a day or two ago that T---p was floating the idea that Harris is a "Jew hater," never mind the fact that her husband is Jewish (apparently "he's a very bad Jew" -- I don't know what that means).



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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,819
    damn talk about idiotic things to say! How does someone turn black maybe if you sun tanned everyday for 5 years 😂 Sheckels thanks for posting about this conference 😂 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645


    Probably not a smart thing to say at the NABJ but it's tRump...he's stoopid as fuck

    another "someone should look at that" moronic comment

    It was just a day or two ago that T---p was floating the idea that Harris is a "Jew hater," never mind the fact that her husband is Jewish (apparently "he's a very bad Jew" -- I don't know what that means).



    yeah and again...there is just so much this idiot blurts out that it's impossible to make him accountable for all of it. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    Only a racist could approve of that performance.
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    For a palate cleanser: Pete Buttigieg coming up next on Deadline: White House
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
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    mickeyrat said:
    A complete and utter disaster for Trump today.

    I loved when he was asked if Vance will be ready on day 1 and he goes on a tangent about how the VP doesn't even matter much. Such a simple lay up question and he blew it. 

    He should consider dropping out. I don't think he is up for a campaign. 


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    the campaign stopped it at roughly 35 min of the hour I believe it was supposed to be....
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    mickeyrat said:
    the campaign stopped it at roughly 35 min of the hour I believe it was supposed to be....
    Thanks so much to sheky for bringing attention to it. I would never have bothered to watch if I didn't see his post earlier. 
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    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    mickeyrat said:
    the campaign stopped it at roughly 35 min of the hour I believe it was supposed to be....
    Thanks so much to sheky for bringing attention to it. I would never have bothered to watch if I didn't see his post earlier. 
    in a maga world, somehow this will be spun to have been a great interview for trump and he will get a 2 point bounce.
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