The Attempted Assassination of Donald Trump

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    gift.....


    Secret Service finds protecting Trump is extraordinarily challenging
    By Josh Dawsey and Carol D. Leonnig
    August 18, 2024 at 16:55 ET
    Just before Donald Trump held a rally in Doral, Fla., on July 9, Secret Service officials delivered his campaign a message: The former president and his advisers would notice additional security because the U.S. government had credible intelligence of threats against him.
    “The bad guys are at it again,” an adviser said, describing the Secret Service’s message.
    Days later, a Pakistani national was arrested during an FBI sting after allegedly taking part in a murder-for-hire plot on behalf of Iran targeting a politician or government official on U.S. soil. Officials familiar with the investigation said this month that the alleged plot raised concerns about Trump’s safety and prompted a number of meetings among top Justice Department officials.
    On July 13, Trump was grazed by a bullet at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania when a gunman fired shots from an unsecured roof about 150 yards away. It left Trump’s team shocked that the gunman — who had no known connection to Iran or any other foreign power — had such a clear shot at him from such a close distance, given they had been informed just days earlier that the Secret Service was on high alert.
    The series of events in early July illustrates the extraordinary challenges facing the Secret Service as it attempts to protect Trump — a former president running for office again and one of the world’s most recognizable people. He not only holds large-scale campaign rallies — as he plans to do this week — but also routinely hangs out with scores of people at the Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., and his other resorts.
    The difficulties have prompted numerous arguments over the past 3½ years between agency officials, Trump and his advisers. His aides grew increasingly angry as many of their requests for additional security were rebuffed by the Secret Service, according to eight people familiar with the events, who like others for this story spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions. They were also enraged that his Secret Service detail and team were not told for 30 minutes as police officials searched for a reported suspicious person at the July 13 rally who turned out to be the gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks.
    Trump aides say they had sometimes been forced to cancel or reschedule events when aides felt the venues were not going to be sufficiently secure. They described repeatedly being denied pleas for more snipers, bomb-sniffing dogs, magnetometers and specialty teams to protect Trump, often because agency higher-ups said extra resources were not available. Trump and his campaign have a close relationship with his security detail.
    Secret Service leaders have described the July 13 shooting as a failure, with former director Kimberly Cheatle resigning under pressure after she appeared to blame local police for not better securing the site and falsely claiming the agency never denied Trump detail requests for added security before the shooting. The assassination attempt has raised renewed questions about the Service’s competence that flared a decade ago. On July 13, the Service failed to tackle an obvious risk it has made a top priority since President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963: keeping a gunman on high ground from having a clear shot at the top officials they protect.

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    Doesn't this show the incompetency of Cheatle even more?

    certainly underlings for sure. Heads of departments would typically delegate that sort of thing, no?

    We have seen a decline in usss integrity/competency since 9/11 when they were moved from Treasury oversight to Homeland Security oversight. Any reform needs to start there in my opinion. Which raises a question now that I think about it. What if any was Homelands role in all this?  USSS is now tasked with more folks to protect.
    I'll agree on the underlings but she signs off on them and is in charge of them so start with the head.  I'm not in charge and I know to have someone on that damn roof.
    She resigned...what more do you want her to do?

    Whoever was in charge that day fucked up royally. They should never be put in charge of any event ever again.
    She did exactly what I wanted her to do, resign.  We are discussing the article and how it makes her look bad.

    They need to take a real good look at whos running that and put some better people in charge.
    And she only resigned after she was basically forced to. She showed herself to be a joke. Hurt her chances of getting hired at a nice job somewhere else after that hearing. She was a joke who dodged questions and avoided accountability until the majority of people on both sides were asking for her resignation. So I can't really give her credit for resigning, she was trying to keep her job and dodge responsibility. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    some would say she dodged questions about as well as trump dodged that bullet.

    i'll be here all week...
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    some would say she dodged questions about as well as trump dodged that bullet.

    i'll be here all week...
    This did make me laugh, shame on u, lol!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    some would say she dodged questions about as well as trump dodged that bullet.

    i'll be here all week...
    This did make me laugh, shame on u, lol!
    lol i used to say that someone dodged questions like pootie tang dodged those bullets, but most people today would not get that reference, haha.
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,471
    some would say she dodged questions about as well as trump dodged that bullet.

    i'll be here all week...
    This did make me laugh, shame on u, lol!
    lol i used to say that someone dodged questions like pootie tang dodged those bullets, but most people today would not get that reference, haha.
    Deflecting them with their braids even!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    pjl44 said:
    some would say she dodged questions about as well as trump dodged that bullet.

    i'll be here all week...
    This did make me laugh, shame on u, lol!
    lol i used to say that someone dodged questions like pootie tang dodged those bullets, but most people today would not get that reference, haha.
    Deflecting them with their braids even!
    exactly! lol
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
    Yeah this smells of some seriously dark stuff you’d think everyone would want every stone turned! Why would he just stop taking about it in his rallies and at every opportunity he could? 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
    Yeah this smells of some seriously dark stuff you’d think everyone would want every stone turned! Why would he just stop taking about it in his rallies and at every opportunity he could? 
    i don't care about him not talking about it. i am more concerned about the people supposed to be investigating this, you know, the committee, can't even bother to show up and investigate. i am even more inclined to believe this was staged. i believe the ones that did not show are afraid of what might be found.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
    Yeah this smells of some seriously dark stuff you’d think everyone would want every stone turned! Why would he just stop taking about it in his rallies and at every opportunity he could? 
    i don't care about him not talking about it. i am more concerned about the people supposed to be investigating this, you know, the committee, can't even bother to show up and investigate. i am even more inclined to believe this was staged. i believe the ones that did not show are afraid of what might be found.
    Who are the no-shows?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
    Yeah this smells of some seriously dark stuff you’d think everyone would want every stone turned! Why would he just stop taking about it in his rallies and at every opportunity he could? 
    i don't care about him not talking about it. i am more concerned about the people supposed to be investigating this, you know, the committee, can't even bother to show up and investigate. i am even more inclined to believe this was staged. i believe the ones that did not show are afraid of what might be found.
    Who are the no-shows?
    Four of the seven Republican members of the panel missed the tour: Reps. Mark Green (Tenn.), Michael Waltz (Fla.), Clay Higgins (La.) and Pat Fallon (Tex.). Their absence was not explained at the news conference.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/08/26/trump-assassination-house-task-force-butler/
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
    Yeah this smells of some seriously dark stuff you’d think everyone would want every stone turned! Why would he just stop taking about it in his rallies and at every opportunity he could? 
    i don't care about him not talking about it. i am more concerned about the people supposed to be investigating this, you know, the committee, can't even bother to show up and investigate. i am even more inclined to believe this was staged. i believe the ones that did not show are afraid of what might be found.
    Who are the no-shows?
    Four of the seven Republican members of the panel missed the tour: Reps. Mark Green (Tenn.), Michael Waltz (Fla.), Clay Higgins (La.) and Pat Fallon (Tex.). Their absence was not explained at the news conference.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/08/26/trump-assassination-house-task-force-butler/
    The only cracked pot I see there is Clay Higgins. But in general, we know the repubs are not a serious political party and are nothing but a farce.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
    Yeah this smells of some seriously dark stuff you’d think everyone would want every stone turned! Why would he just stop taking about it in his rallies and at every opportunity he could? 
    i don't care about him not talking about it. i am more concerned about the people supposed to be investigating this, you know, the committee, can't even bother to show up and investigate. i am even more inclined to believe this was staged. i believe the ones that did not show are afraid of what might be found.
    Who are the no-shows?
    Four of the seven Republican members of the panel missed the tour: Reps. Mark Green (Tenn.), Michael Waltz (Fla.), Clay Higgins (La.) and Pat Fallon (Tex.). Their absence was not explained at the news conference.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/08/26/trump-assassination-house-task-force-butler/
    The only cracked pot I see there is Clay Higgins. But in general, we know the repubs are not a serious political party and are nothing but a farce.
    if anybody should have been there it should have been higgins. his involvement with asking for leniency for 1/6 protestors makes him sketchy already. if i were him i would have wanted to at least give the appearance that i was trying to get to the bottom of what nearly happened to the man i attached my political wagon to.

    it's just a very bad look.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,749
    so all 4 democrats showed up, and only 3 of 7 republicans bothered to show up. this is a big deal and should be a serious investigation. proves once again that the gop is not a serious party and they do not want answers.

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1828176390912647208
    Yeah this smells of some seriously dark stuff you’d think everyone would want every stone turned! Why would he just stop taking about it in his rallies and at every opportunity he could? 
    i don't care about him not talking about it. i am more concerned about the people supposed to be investigating this, you know, the committee, can't even bother to show up and investigate. i am even more inclined to believe this was staged. i believe the ones that did not show are afraid of what might be found.
    Who are the no-shows?
    Four of the seven Republican members of the panel missed the tour: Reps. Mark Green (Tenn.), Michael Waltz (Fla.), Clay Higgins (La.) and Pat Fallon (Tex.). Their absence was not explained at the news conference.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/08/26/trump-assassination-house-task-force-butler/
    The only cracked pot I see there is Clay Higgins. But in general, we know the repubs are not a serious political party and are nothing but a farce.
    if anybody should have been there it should have been higgins. his involvement with asking for leniency for 1/6 protestors makes him sketchy already. if i were him i would have wanted to at least give the appearance that i was trying to get to the bottom of what nearly happened to the man i attached my political wagon to.

    it's just a very bad look.
    What’s there to get to the bottom to? Secret Service did a terrible job. Biden/Harris DEI policy hired incompetent people who couldn’t holster a gun. Unless you think Biden/Harris deliberately sent incompetent officers to secure the rally in hopes of assassination attempt.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    I wouldn’t put anything past the the old weird man running for office he def knows how to follow a script 🎬🎬
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    Interesting reply to the question of why there's been so little talk about this event.

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  • OnWis97 said:
    Interesting reply to the question of why there's been so little talk about this event.

    https://x.com/NewfMom29/status/1831068250320376109
    I was just thinking today, actually, how, if this had been any other president, it would be front page for weeks. Is any of this verifiable?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited September 5
    OnWis97 said:
    Interesting reply to the question of why there's been so little talk about this event.

    https://x.com/NewfMom29/status/1831068250320376109
    The entire incident is bizarre to me. A million questions surrounding it. I do believe if the shooter was a democrat we would have been hearing about this all day/every day though. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    OnWis97 said:
    Interesting reply to the question of why there's been so little talk about this event.

    https://x.com/NewfMom29/status/1831068250320376109
    The entire incident is bizarre to me. A million questions surrounding it. I do believe if the shooter was a democrat we would have been hearing about this all day/every day though. 
    Uhmm we already know more about yesterday’s school shooting than what the investigation has produced on Trumpollini getting his ear shot 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    trump never misses an opportunity to play the victim... The silence around this is deafening. 
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    So yesterday I woke to this text from a friend....
    *Gees, man, if you're going to shoot at him, at least be a better shot!*
    I replied what the hell are you talking about? He answered, turn on the news. So I did, only to find out someone took another shot or attempted another shot. That's with another assault type weapon, an all too familiar crime we're becoming comfortably numb. This happened about 4 miles south of my house here in WPB. Too close for comfort besides I'd rather see him in handcuffs and being taken off to jail.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    So let me get this straight Republicans are all tied in knots about gun issues near trumpollini but couldn’t give two 💩💩 shits about all the school shootings! Like JD stated it’s just a fact of life deal with it! 
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  • g under p said:
    So yesterday I woke to this text from a friend....
    *Gees, man, if you're going to shoot at him, at least be a better shot!*
    I replied what the hell are you talking about? He answered, turn on the news. So I did, only to find out someone took another shot or attempted another shot. That's with another assault type weapon, an all too familiar crime we're becoming comfortably numb. This happened about 4 miles south of my house here in WPB. Too close for comfort besides I'd rather see him in handcuffs and being taken off to jail.
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    except nobody took a shot at trump this time.

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  • last weekend i was at a church carnival and there were 2 bursts of gunshots at the carnival. i just realized i survived an assassination attempt!
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,749
    last weekend i was at a church carnival and there were 2 bursts of gunshots at the carnival. i just realized i survived an assassination attempt!
    Wow
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    teskeinc said:
    last weekend i was at a church carnival and there were 2 bursts of gunshots at the carnival. i just realized i survived an assassination attempt!
    Wow
    How many shots were fired at trumpollini this time around? I can’t find any info on this? 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,272
    No shots fired...but the guy was apparently hiding there for 12 hours. Another really close call. 

    Seems like the secret service did their job but I'm still seeing a lot of outrage over why there weren't more SS around
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  • apparently SS have a lot of trouble with golf courses, and they said "especially trump ones". Not sure why his would be different/more difficult. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    I can't even fathom what we're probably paying to protect a guy who is known to incite violence, but when it's directed back at him, it's woe is me. What a waste of time, energy and resources. Are we still being bilked for them staying at his properties too? It's terrible that people are trying to assassinate him, but he really brings it on himself with his hateful, xenophobic and racist rhetoric. I can't think of any other person of a similar persona that anyone would gladly say, let's pay to protect them 24/7. What a joke.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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