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The Attempted Assassination of Donald Trump

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,236
    Cheatle tin charge of the Secret Service was grilled yesterday by both parties and have zero confidence in her.  She doubled down on herself though.

    I think she should resign and should never have been in the position in the =first place it seems.

    BBC has a good article on it.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c724wqpy4qnt
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,321
    Yes she should resign or be fired but otherwise it’s time to move past this or I really don’t care! 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,364
    This actually infuriates me.  Its a kangaroo court.  They aren't doing any real work to review the situation and identify the gaps, they simply want the scapegoat.  It's the very worst type of managing and it's all our congress ever does.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,359
    josevolution said:
    Yes she should resign or be fired but otherwise it’s time to move past this or I really don’t care! 
    Is it though? I see people constantly bringing up that he told them to drink bleach and that was 4 years ago. Whether you like Trump or hate him, this was an extremely significant event in our history that happened two weeks ago. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,321
    nicknyr15 said:
    josevolution said:
    Yes she should resign or be fired but otherwise it’s time to move past this or I really don’t care! 
    Is it though? I see people constantly bringing up that he told them to drink bleach and that was 4 years ago. Whether you like Trump or hate him, this was an extremely significant event in our history that happened two weeks ago. 
    I understand it was a giant fumble by the SS no doubt but will we ever get to the whole truth of what happened I don’t think so! And I don’t believe he wants an investigation to get to the bottom of it. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,359
    josevolution said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    josevolution said:
    Yes she should resign or be fired but otherwise it’s time to move past this or I really don’t care! 
    Is it though? I see people constantly bringing up that he told them to drink bleach and that was 4 years ago. Whether you like Trump or hate him, this was an extremely significant event in our history that happened two weeks ago. 
    I understand it was a giant fumble by the SS no doubt but will we ever get to the whole truth of what happened I don’t think so! And I don’t believe he wants an investigation to get to the bottom of it. 
    Do we ever get the whole truth about anything? I don’t thinks so. So I definitely agree about that. It’s all a big show and nothing will come out of it. 
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Speaking of lapses in security: Lapses persist for Capitol Hill panic buttons two years after insurrection

    That reminds me, whatever happened to this guy?




    Also:
    On July 14, 2022, it was reported that "Members of the U.S. Secret Service erased text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021, shortly after the Department of Homeland Security inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the agency's response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, according to a letter written by the inspector general to congressional leaders.

    On July 20, 2022, Gladys Ayala, the Deputy Inspector General (IG) of the Department of Homeland Security notified the Secret Service that her office was investigating the disappearance of text messages and emails regarding the siege of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, characterizing their disappearance as an "ongoing criminal investigation." 
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    Speaking of lapses in security: Lapses persist for Capitol Hill panic buttons two years after insurrection

    That reminds me, whatever happened to this guy?




    Also:
    On July 14, 2022, it was reported that "Members of the U.S. Secret Service erased text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021, shortly after the Department of Homeland Security inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the agency's response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, according to a letter written by the inspector general to congressional leaders.

    On July 20, 2022, Gladys Ayala, the Deputy Inspector General (IG) of the Department of Homeland Security notified the Secret Service that her office was investigating the disappearance of text messages and emails regarding the siege of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, characterizing their disappearance as an "ongoing criminal investigation." 

    Secret Service chief James Murray leaving agency for Snapchat

    weird, I wonder if Snapchat played any part in January 6th
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,359
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Speaking of lapses in security: Lapses persist for Capitol Hill panic buttons two years after insurrection

    That reminds me, whatever happened to this guy?




    Also:
    On July 14, 2022, it was reported that "Members of the U.S. Secret Service erased text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021, shortly after the Department of Homeland Security inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the agency's response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, according to a letter written by the inspector general to congressional leaders.

    On July 20, 2022, Gladys Ayala, the Deputy Inspector General (IG) of the Department of Homeland Security notified the Secret Service that her office was investigating the disappearance of text messages and emails regarding the siege of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, characterizing their disappearance as an "ongoing criminal investigation." 

    Secret Service chief James Murray leaving agency for Snapchat

    weird, I wonder if Snapchat played any part in January 6th
    I believe there’s a topic for January 6. This thread is about something different 
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Speaking of lapses in security: Lapses persist for Capitol Hill panic buttons two years after insurrection

    That reminds me, whatever happened to this guy?




    Also:
    On July 14, 2022, it was reported that "Members of the U.S. Secret Service erased text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021, shortly after the Department of Homeland Security inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the agency's response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, according to a letter written by the inspector general to congressional leaders.

    On July 20, 2022, Gladys Ayala, the Deputy Inspector General (IG) of the Department of Homeland Security notified the Secret Service that her office was investigating the disappearance of text messages and emails regarding the siege of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, characterizing their disappearance as an "ongoing criminal investigation." 

    Secret Service chief James Murray leaving agency for Snapchat

    weird, I wonder if Snapchat played any part in January 6th
    things that make you go hmmm...

    Snapchat Maps Used to Bust Capitol Rioters
    Encryption poised to hamper Jan. 6 investigators’ phone records push
    Snapchat permanently bans President Trump
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Speaking of lapses in security: Lapses persist for Capitol Hill panic buttons two years after insurrection

    That reminds me, whatever happened to this guy?




    Also:
    On July 14, 2022, it was reported that "Members of the U.S. Secret Service erased text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021, shortly after the Department of Homeland Security inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the agency's response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, according to a letter written by the inspector general to congressional leaders.

    On July 20, 2022, Gladys Ayala, the Deputy Inspector General (IG) of the Department of Homeland Security notified the Secret Service that her office was investigating the disappearance of text messages and emails regarding the siege of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, characterizing their disappearance as an "ongoing criminal investigation." 

    Secret Service chief James Murray leaving agency for Snapchat

    weird, I wonder if Snapchat played any part in January 6th
    things that make you go hmmm...

    Snapchat Maps Used to Bust Capitol Rioters
    Encryption poised to hamper Jan. 6 investigators’ phone records push
    Snapchat permanently bans President Trump
    And finally...

    The agency, which is already under scrutiny for its response to the Trump rally shooting, also faced criticism for how it handled the Capitol riot.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,744
    I know the buck stops with her but Cheatle wasn't at the event making the decisions that were made. Who was in charge that day? That's the person that needs to get grilled.


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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,236
    cincybearcat said:
    This actually infuriates me.  Its a kangaroo court.  They aren't doing any real work to review the situation and identify the gaps, they simply want the scapegoat.  It's the very worst type of managing and it's all our congress ever does.
    So I see this two ways.  They actually asked her "how" this happened and where the breach was and she declined to answer it.  That is one.

    The other maybe to not discuss how they internally effed up so people can't follow the playbook for a second attempt.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,236
    Gern Blansten said:
    I know the buck stops with her but Cheatle wasn't at the event making the decisions that were made. Who was in charge that day? That's the person that needs to get grilled.


    She is still the person in charge that signs off on the detail.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,744
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I know the buck stops with her but Cheatle wasn't at the event making the decisions that were made. Who was in charge that day? That's the person that needs to get grilled.


    She is still the person in charge that signs off on the detail.
    Correct as I mentioned the buck stops with her. She is guilty of trusting the person in charge that day. Who was that?
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,236
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I know the buck stops with her but Cheatle wasn't at the event making the decisions that were made. Who was in charge that day? That's the person that needs to get grilled.


    She is still the person in charge that signs off on the detail.
    Correct as I mentioned the buck stops with her. She is guilty of trusting the person in charge that day. Who was that?
    I tried googling it and don't come up with anything.  I understand what you are getting at but it still falls on her shoulders.  The person that was in charge that day will most likely be removed from their position also.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,359
    @tempo_n_groove

    The Attempted Assignation of Donald Trump

  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    It’s bi-partisan that she should resign. Biden should fire her but he is incapable of doing it. The American public has no confidence in her to protect any former or current President. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,744
    Social media is brutal to those female agents right now. The one that couldn't holster her weapon, etc.


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Gern Blansten said:
    Social media is brutal to those female agents right now. The one that couldn't holster her weapon, etc.


    Aren’t those agents supposed to be the best of the best tho? Barney Fife had better gun handling skills.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,281
    Gern Blansten said:
    Social media is brutal to those female agents right now. The one that couldn't holster her weapon, etc.


    That was one of the first things I noticed when this all happened.
    I know it’s a high stress situation. But aren’t these supposed to be the best in the country? How are you unable to holster your gun?
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,275
    Guys, the roof was clearly too sloped. These are secret service agents, not mountaineers.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,246
    feels like debating something that happened months ago. the head of secret service needs to go and they need to do a better job. 

    i feel like this is a waste of time unless we get the exact details of what happened, including medical reports.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    She just resigned!
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,744
    I imagine Biden asked for it
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • jwhjr17jwhjr17 Posts: 1,993
    nicknyr15 said:
    @tempo_n_groove

    The Attempted Assignation of Donald Trump

    Yeah, what's was the attempt to assign him to?  :smirk:
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Gern Blansten said:
    I imagine Biden asked for it
    He should have fired her. Members of Congress had to ask for it yesterday.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,321
    She just resigned! 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,281
    jwhjr17 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    @tempo_n_groove

    The Attempted Assignation of Donald Trump

    Yeah, what's was the attempt to assign him to?  :smirk:
    They tried to assign him death.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,246
    mace1229 said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    @tempo_n_groove

    The Attempted Assignation of Donald Trump

    Yeah, what's was the attempt to assign him to?  :smirk:
    They tried to assign him death.
    they need to assign him how to act like an adult and leader of a political party.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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