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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,272
    tbergs said:
    I can't even fathom what we're probably paying to protect a guy who is known to incite violence, but when it's directed back at him, it's woe is me. What a waste of time, energy and resources. Are we still being bilked for them staying at his properties too? It's terrible that people are trying to assassinate him, but he really brings it on himself with his hateful, xenophobic and racist rhetoric. I can't think of any other person of a similar persona that anyone would gladly say, let's pay to protect them 24/7. What a joke.
    He definitely brings it on himself....I'm getting sick of hearing magats blame Harris/Biden for people that want to take him out.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Just another ploy to play victim. Incite or allude to violence, act surprised when people do and play the victim. It’s deliberate.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another ploy to play victim. Incite or allude to violence, act surprised when people do and play the victim. It’s deliberate.
    don't forget fundraise off of as well. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    if this keeps happening to trump we will get desensitized to it and consider it normal. like we do with school shootings.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    and now it's former trump voters that are going after him. haha. couldn't happen to a better guy. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and now it's former trump voters that are going after him. haha. couldn't happen to a better guy. 
    in all honesty this is basically on him at this point.

    of all things people hate, being lied to is near the top of the list. your followers have all the guns and if you lie to them enough, a few of them might get angry enough to go after you.

    the politics of hate and division has brought us to this point.
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Posts: 2,604
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    DarthMaeglin said:
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
    There is a reality that should not be a surprise. If I take part in dangerous activities or rhetoric, I should know that I'm increasing the likelihood of injury or death. That's just a fact of life. This isn't the same as blaming a woman who's raped because she was flirty or wore clothes that exposed more skin. Trump is literally provoking violence by lying and misleading the public. This isn't victim blaming. His mouth is a loaded weapon and the responses we are seeing shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Before the past few months, who didn't find it shocking there hasn't been an assassination attempt the last 8 years? It will keep happening because he has promoted violence and unrest.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited September 16
    DarthMaeglin said:
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
    Victim of what? Having a golfing round cut short?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    The Juggler said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
    Victim of what? Having a golfing round cut short?
    it cost him his 28th club championship!!!! someone needs to be held accountable for that!!!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    DarthMaeglin said:
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
    didn't you downplay and blame trudeau for people throwing bricks at his head, saying his "divisive rhetoric" brought this on?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
    didn't you downplay and blame trudeau for people throwing bricks at his head, saying his "divisive rhetoric" brought this on?
    Now, now, that was different. 🤪
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,139
    tbergs said:
    I can't even fathom what we're probably paying to protect a guy who is known to incite violence, but when it's directed back at him, it's woe is me. What a waste of time, energy and resources. Are we still being bilked for them staying at his properties too? It's terrible that people are trying to assassinate him, but he really brings it on himself with his hateful, xenophobic and racist rhetoric. I can't think of any other person of a similar persona that anyone would gladly say, let's pay to protect them 24/7. What a joke.
    The thing is, as ready as he is to pounce on any perceived bad treatment he receives (I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT) he hasn't said all that much about these events. Just something I've thought about.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited September 16
    OnWis97 said:
    tbergs said:
    I can't even fathom what we're probably paying to protect a guy who is known to incite violence, but when it's directed back at him, it's woe is me. What a waste of time, energy and resources. Are we still being bilked for them staying at his properties too? It's terrible that people are trying to assassinate him, but he really brings it on himself with his hateful, xenophobic and racist rhetoric. I can't think of any other person of a similar persona that anyone would gladly say, let's pay to protect them 24/7. What a joke.
    The thing is, as ready as he is to pounce on any perceived bad treatment he receives (I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT) he hasn't said all that much about these events. Just something I've thought about.
    He knows it helps him in some way so he just kind of let's it hang out there, besides more recently starting to blame it on democrats. He'll lean in to that more and more as the election nears. There will be violence all across the country on election day this year because this asshole has sown the seeds for yet another insurrection attempt. The only legit outcome is his victory. Such a piece of shit.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,139
    In the first one, he gets up, raises his fist, and says "fight, fight, fight!" Very few people, much less one of the softest whiners known to humankind, react to those situations much differently.

    I'm not sure what's happening. But if I were Harris I'd be very vocal about investigating this. "Why has this happened twice? This is bad for him, for me and for everyone running for any office." Treat them as earnest assassination attempts because it's important to do so and/or because you'll be calling their bluff.

    It seems like this would be very difficult to orchestrate but these things are riling the base up between what a bad mofo Trump is and how the deranged left is trying to get him.

    I'd say:
    • 50% chance these attempts are as advertised
    • 30% chance they're being staged to drum up votes
    • 20% chance they're being saved to rile up the base about evil liberals for the civil war in case he loses
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,139
    tbergs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    tbergs said:
    I can't even fathom what we're probably paying to protect a guy who is known to incite violence, but when it's directed back at him, it's woe is me. What a waste of time, energy and resources. Are we still being bilked for them staying at his properties too? It's terrible that people are trying to assassinate him, but he really brings it on himself with his hateful, xenophobic and racist rhetoric. I can't think of any other person of a similar persona that anyone would gladly say, let's pay to protect them 24/7. What a joke.
    The thing is, as ready as he is to pounce on any perceived bad treatment he receives (I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT) he hasn't said all that much about these events. Just something I've thought about.
    He knows it helps him in some way so he just kind of let's it hang out there, besides more recently starting to blame it on democrats. He'll lean in to that more and more as the election nears. There will be violence all across the country on election day this year because this asshole has sown the seeds for yet another insurrection attempt. The only legit outcome is his victory. Such a piece of shit.
    Probably. I really do mean it when I say everyone voting in a big city in a swing state needs to be very careful.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,272
    OnWis97 said:
    In the first one, he gets up, raises his fist, and says "fight, fight, fight!" Very few people, much less one of the softest whiners known to humankind, react to those situations much differently.

    I'm not sure what's happening. But if I were Harris I'd be very vocal about investigating this. "Why has this happened twice? This is bad for him, for me and for everyone running for any office." Treat them as earnest assassination attempts because it's important to do so and/or because you'll be calling their bluff.

    It seems like this would be very difficult to orchestrate but these things are riling the base up between what a bad mofo Trump is and how the deranged left is trying to get him.

    I'd say:
    • 50% chance these attempts are as advertised
    • 30% chance they're being staged to drum up votes
    • 20% chance they're being saved to rile up the base about evil liberals for the civil war in case he loses
    I don't think trump is smart enough to stage something like this...he's way too stupid. If staged I think the shooter would not have been caught. Dude is clearly a nutjob.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    The Juggler said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
    Victim of what? Having a golfing round cut short?
    it cost him his 28th club championship!!!! someone needs to be held accountable for that!!!
    Seriously though....was this technically even an "attempt" if the guy never shot at him? Seems like a threat that was averted.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    OnWis97 said:
    In the first one, he gets up, raises his fist, and says "fight, fight, fight!" Very few people, much less one of the softest whiners known to humankind, react to those situations much differently.

    I'm not sure what's happening. But if I were Harris I'd be very vocal about investigating this. "Why has this happened twice? This is bad for him, for me and for everyone running for any office." Treat them as earnest assassination attempts because it's important to do so and/or because you'll be calling their bluff.

    It seems like this would be very difficult to orchestrate but these things are riling the base up between what a bad mofo Trump is and how the deranged left is trying to get him.

    I'd say:
    • 50% chance these attempts are as advertised
    • 30% chance they're being staged to drum up votes
    • 20% chance they're being saved to rile up the base about evil liberals for the civil war in case he loses
    The Dems, the minority on the house committee formed to investigate the first assassination attempt are taking this seriously as evidenced by their full attendance upon visiting the scene of the crime. Repubs? Not so much. Both Harris and Brandon have made forceful statements condemning the attempt(s). Again, Dems are held to a higher standard. Seems contrived.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    from what i have read he has been charged with 2 crimes.

    1. being a felon in possession of a firearm
    2. possessing a firearm with a destroyed serial number

    nothing related to any kind of assassination attempt at this time.

    also reading that he has no money in his savings. was appointed a public defender.

    how can one travel to poland to attempt to join the ukranian military, fly to hawaii, fly from hawaii to florida with no money?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    from what i have read he has been charged with 2 crimes.

    1. being a felon in possession of a firearm
    2. possessing a firearm with a destroyed serial number

    nothing related to any kind of assassination attempt at this time.

    also reading that he has no money in his savings. was appointed a public defender.

    how can one travel to poland to attempt to join the ukranian military, fly to hawaii, fly from hawaii to florida with no money?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    from what i have read he has been charged with 2 crimes.

    1. being a felon in possession of a firearm
    2. possessing a firearm with a destroyed serial number

    nothing related to any kind of assassination attempt at this time.

    also reading that he has no money in his savings. was appointed a public defender.

    how can one travel to poland to attempt to join the ukranian military, fly to hawaii, fly from hawaii to florida with no money?
    Go. Fund. Me.
    i don't want to speculate but it seems odd that he knew trump would be there golfing that day. i would have assumed he would be out campaigning or holding a rally somewhere since it is 50 days until the election.
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Posts: 2,604
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    C'mon,  everybody now, blame the victim! 
    didn't you downplay and blame trudeau for people throwing bricks at his head, saying his "divisive rhetoric" brought this on?
    Source on the brick throwing,  which you can't produce because it didn't happen.  A jackass threw gravel at him. Was that misinformation or disinformation on your part? I remember discussing this in the Canadian thread and you even then you were calling them rocks.

    Think I called the jackass' actions sad at the time, if I didn't then that's how I see it now. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Posts: 2,604
    The problem's not Trump,  it's attempted assassinations of a former President and current Presidential candidate. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    DarthMaeglin said:
    The problem's not Trump,  it's attempted assassinations of a former President and current Presidential candidate. 
    Yeah, sure. There's no problem with a convicted felon running for president in order to stay out of prison.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    DarthMaeglin said:
    The problem's not Trump,  it's attempted assassinations of a former President and current Presidential candidate. 
    i mean, it's the title of the thread though, right?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    The Juggler said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    The problem's not Trump,  it's attempted assassinations of a former President and current Presidential candidate. 
    Yeah, sure. There's no problem with a convicted felon running for president in order to stay out of prison.

    PERFECTLY.

    NORMAL.
    also perfectly normal to have a fundraising email ready to go within an hour of the event.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    know how bad of a salesman trump is?

    he cannot convince people to feel sorry for him that he has had 2 potential assassination attempts.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited September 16

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    you reap what you sow

    said to mean that everything that happens is a result of things which you have done in the past. It seems to me that if we create areas of such bleakness and social deprivation we should expect to reap what we sow.

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    interesting little tidbit in the second post...
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