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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,593
    “There’s nothing like an unfurnished basement for pure comfort”
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,663
    darwinstheory said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    darwinstheory said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    Why are we now worried about what kind of underwear people are wearing?? How are we classifying those who go commando? Are they communists, or anarchists?

    As someone who’s originally from the Midwest, again, one of the reasons that I’ve long called myself a small-c conservative or civil libertarian is because Tim Walz’s “Mind your own damn business.” is burned pretty deeply into who I am. Don’t believe in “gay marriage?” Don’t marry someone of your own gender! Problem solved! Don’t want to be trans? Nobody is forcing you to do so? Feel like dressing in drag for Halloween or whatever? Go for it. You do you, boo.

    This really isn’t hard; I don’t get why people make such a big deal out of things that don’t affect them at all.

    (Oh: today it’s a black thong from Lululemon. Satisfied?)
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    Right???? They are a better deal than the Costco rotisserie chicken! 
    I'm a Costco fanboy. Those damn chickens are delicious. The wings they make are really good too.

    I'm stuck on the meatloaf and mashed potato combo they put out as well. They make the best mashed potatoes I've ever had I think.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,622
    They make some delicious mashed potatoes, no doubt. Or....maybe I just like them because Morning Joe told me to like them.  ;)
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    edited August 13
    Merkin Baller said:
    “There’s nothing like an unfurnished basement for pure comfort”

    Does this mean you're going commando? Communist!

    [Kidding]
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,593
    curmudgeoness said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    “There’s nothing like an unfurnished basement for pure comfort”

    Does this mean you're going commando? Communist!

    [Kidding]

  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,056
    Merkin Baller said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    “There’s nothing like an unfurnished basement for pure comfort”

    Does this mean you're going commando? Communist!

    [Kidding]


    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,663


    WTF?? No Macho Man Randy Savage? No Ted Nugent? BORING!!!!!!1
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    Gern Blansten said:


    WTF?? No Macho Man Randy Savage? No Ted Nugent? BORING!!!!!!1
    No, no, no, the surprises are Tellytubby Twink, Barney, Dr. Seuss and the BLM and Antiiiiiiiiiifa leadership. Plus AOC, Liz Warren and Ilhan Omar. Special appearance, coming down from the rafters on a zip line, by George Zoros and the Space Lazers.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,663
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    WTF?? No Macho Man Randy Savage? No Ted Nugent? BORING!!!!!!1
    No, no, no, the surprises are Tellytubby Twink, Barney, Dr. Seuss and the BLM and Antiiiiiiiiiifa leadership. Plus AOC, Liz Warren and Ilhan Omar. Special appearance, coming down from the rafters on a zip line, by George Zoros and the Space Lazers.
    I'd buy a ticket...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    Ugh. Can the Clintons just go away? They aren't winning anyone over at this point. 


  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,593
    Tim Simmons said:
    Ugh. Can the Clintons just go away? They aren't winning anyone over at this point. 


    Agreed… just f all the way off please. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,663
    Tim Simmons said:
    Ugh. Can the Clintons just go away? They aren't winning anyone over at this point. 


    They don't need to win anyone over. I'm glad to see them.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    Nostalgia act
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,929
    Yeah the Clinton’s don’t bother me I won’t even watch this I’m just going to vote on 11/5 I don’t need to be sold! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    edited August 14
    It is normal for past president's and nominee's to speak at their party's conventions though...well except for maga when Hulk Hogan and the UFC guy take center stage.

    Still--I hope there are some prime time slots for future leaders like Shaprio, Whitmore, Moore, etc etc etc. 

    Edit--would love to see someone like Jason Kander speak as well. This guy could be a future president at some point in the next 10-20 years.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,716
    I'd love to see Bill Clinton and Donald Trump get together for a reunion on Epstein's jet and fly to Antarctica to vie for becoming president of the penguins. And please don't ever come back.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    Tim Simmons said:
    Nostalgia act
    Firing up the women and the old guard that remember Bill’s impact on “Its the economy, stupid,” and putting people first, after the draconian Ronny Raygun and out of touch Bush years. Hillary is admired among a large portion of the women of the base and for good reasons. The conventions are about firing up the base and gaining momentum. The arc of Clinton, Obama, Brandon and now Harris is a pretty damn good arc to illustrate between job creation, budget-deficit reduction, healthcare, current economic conditions and a more hopeful future versus doom and gloom, stripping of rights and only caring about the wealthy class. A very stark difference.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    I'd love to see Bill Clinton and Donald Trump get together for a reunion on Epstein's jet and fly to Antarctica to vie for becoming president of the penguins. And please don't ever come back.
    Well Trump is already using the Epstein jet currently so, yeah, let's make this happen!
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    People I'd like to see speak: Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, Geoff Duncan.

    And, frankly, I expect that at least some of the above *will* be speaking.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    curmudgeoness said:
    People I'd like to see speak: Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, Geoff Duncan.

    And, frankly, I expect that at least some of the above *will* be speaking.
    Holy cow that’s a huge prediction!  You must know something!  Should be interesting!  
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    I know nothing. Really.

    All I know is that Nicolle Wallace asked the Republican mayor of Mesa, AZ, who endorsed Harris, if he was going to be a speaker at the convention, and he said "All I can say is, wait and see who's speaking."

    Providing room in the tent/ at the convention for former Republicans and pro-democracy non-Democrats makes sense! Cheney and Kinzinger are putting in the work, Kinzinger in particular is mobilizing people -- I think it would be smart to have him speak. I think there are a number of LDS women who are planning to vote for Harris; having Mitt Romney speak would give them leverage to persuade their fence-sitting friends.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,663
    I'm curious if we will hear anything from George Bush. Maybe not at the convention but a statement, etc. 

    My guess is that there will be a lot of anti-tRump endorsements close to election day.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm curious if we will hear anything from George Bush. Maybe not at the convention but a statement, etc. 

    My guess is that there will be a lot of anti-tRump endorsements close to election day.
    trump is dumb enough. do we really need to dust off w so he can talk about the "nukuler" threat from iran or something?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,663
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm curious if we will hear anything from George Bush. Maybe not at the convention but a statement, etc. 

    My guess is that there will be a lot of anti-tRump endorsements close to election day.
    trump is dumb enough. do we really need to dust off w so he can talk about the "nukuler" threat from iran or something?
    no but a Harris endorsement would be nice...I won't be surprised
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm curious if we will hear anything from George Bush. Maybe not at the convention but a statement, etc. 

    My guess is that there will be a lot of anti-tRump endorsements close to election day.
    trump is dumb enough. do we really need to dust off w so he can talk about the "nukuler" threat from iran or something?
    no but a Harris endorsement would be nice...I won't be surprised
    i think w is content to be sitting at home painting and occasionally clearing brush, and thanking his lucky stars he was never arrested and taken to the hague on war crimes charges... he will probably sit this one out.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    curmudgeoness said:
    People I'd like to see speak: Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, Geoff Duncan.

    And, frankly, I expect that at least some of the above *will* be speaking.
    I'd love to see it but I don't blame any of them for not doing it, as they're trying to get the GOP back on track (to the extent it was on track) and not actually be Democrats
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm curious if we will hear anything from George Bush. Maybe not at the convention but a statement, etc. 

    My guess is that there will be a lot of anti-tRump endorsements close to election day.
    trump is dumb enough. do we really need to dust off w so he can talk about the "nukuler" threat from iran or something?
    no but a Harris endorsement would be nice...I won't be surprised
    i think w is content to be sitting at home painting and occasionally clearing brush, and thanking his lucky stars he was never arrested and taken to the hague on war crimes charges... he will probably sit this one out.
    I think we will hear from him in the fall. 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,752
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm curious if we will hear anything from George Bush. Maybe not at the convention but a statement, etc. 

    My guess is that there will be a lot of anti-tRump endorsements close to election day.
    trump is dumb enough. do we really need to dust off w so he can talk about the "nukuler" threat from iran or something?
    no but a Harris endorsement would be nice...I won't be surprised
    i think w is content to be sitting at home painting and occasionally clearing brush, and thanking his lucky stars he was never arrested and taken to the hague on war crimes charges... he will probably sit this one out.

    Well w is safe now as that was definitely presidential duties and he has full immunity. 
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    OnWis97 said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    People I'd like to see speak: Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, Geoff Duncan.

    And, frankly, I expect that at least some of the above *will* be speaking.
    I'd love to see it but I don't blame any of them for not doing it, as they're trying to get the GOP back on track (to the extent it was on track) and not actually be Democrats

    The first step to reviving the old GOP is ending MAGA.





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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Lerxst1992 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm curious if we will hear anything from George Bush. Maybe not at the convention but a statement, etc. 

    My guess is that there will be a lot of anti-tRump endorsements close to election day.
    trump is dumb enough. do we really need to dust off w so he can talk about the "nukuler" threat from iran or something?
    no but a Harris endorsement would be nice...I won't be surprised
    i think w is content to be sitting at home painting and occasionally clearing brush, and thanking his lucky stars he was never arrested and taken to the hague on war crimes charges... he will probably sit this one out.

    Well w is safe now as that was definitely presidential duties and he has full immunity. 
    sadly this is true now.

    although "this is the man that wanted to kill my dad" should never be the basis for diverting a war to an uninvolved country again.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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