** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

mrussel1

teskeinc said:

This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison  He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure. 

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/inmate-who-strangled-11-month-old-will-get-taxpayer-funded-gender-surgery-judge-rules-autumn-cordellion-lgbt-transgender-affirming-care-lgbtq-midwest-law-legal-justice-federal-court-baby-strangle-male-female

Or... we can vote for someone who encouraged a mob to attack the Capitol.  Easy call which is worse.

curmudgeoness

This is comparing apples and oranges.

A clearly disturbed person committed a heinous crime and is serving a lengthy prison sentence for that crime. Yet, because this is the US, they still have certain rights, and they are trying to exercise those rights. This is a good thing. It is good and proper and American that even people convicted of the most horrific felonies still have some rights and protections! This isn't Russia! Who here is the least bit exercised about the man executed tonight by the state of Missouri, despite many assertions that he was innocent? Are we okay with that? I'm not!  

On the other hand, we have a clearly disturbed person who has been convicted of some crimes, charged with dozens more, and has yet to be charged with others -- fraud, sexual assault, etc. They also mishandled a pandemic, leading to hundreds of thousands of excess deaths; invoked a mob and attempted to overthrow democracy; and, if re-elected, would cause millions of people in a free country to lose their freedom and or their lives; would do the same to the people in Gaza; would attempt to deport and/or detain millions of immigrants in this country; would use the levers of government to persecute and prosecute his perceived enemies; would attempt to stifle a free press; would deprive half of the country's citizens of their bodily autonomy; would weaken if not outright destroy international alliances and threaten global stability; has a life-long record of bullying, racism, misogyny, and fraud.

I wouldn't want to interact with either of these people. They both pose a threat to society. But that's where the similarity ends. In the first case, that looks to me a lot like the system working the way it should. In the latter -- wow.

Enough with the ingenuousness.  I'm a small-c conservative, which means I'm a big fan of civil liberties, strong defense, fiscal responsibility, and standing firm against Russia and authoritarians, generally. Tossing the Constitution; denigrating our all-volunteer military; spouting harebrained, half-baked "economic policies" (200% tariffs are not a thing); spouting racist conspiracy theories; rolling over for and openly admiring dictators: these are not conservative stances, they are postures signaling weakness, not strength.

Haiti is the poorest country in the Western hemisphere. Targeting the Haitians who have come here to work and to build better lives for their families is what insecure bullies do. It's not Christian, and it's not American. Embracing hate, anger, and revenge is toxic; it's what weak, stunted people do instead of working on themselves and their issues. Stoking your rage and directing it against enemies, real or perceived, won't actually make you feel better; it will not fill the hole inside you, it will not build anything, it only destroys.

I was raised in that sort of environment, with the performative cruelty and cosplaying toughness, the pettiness, the paranoia. It's corrosive. And now I see that behavior being flaunted and praised and excused and waved away, on a national scale, and it just makes me sick to see it.

josevolution

curmudgeoness said:

This is comparing apples and oranges.

A clearly disturbed person committed a heinous crime and is serving a lengthy prison sentence for that crime. Yet, because this is the US, they still have certain rights, and they are trying to exercise those rights. This is a good thing. It is good and proper and American that even people convicted of the most horrific felonies still have some rights and protections! This isn't Russia! Who here is the least bit exercised about the man executed tonight by the state of Missouri, despite many assertions that he was innocent? Are we okay with that? I'm not!  

On the other hand, we have a clearly disturbed person who has been convicted of some crimes, charged with dozens more, and has yet to be charged with others -- fraud, sexual assault, etc. They also mishandled a pandemic, leading to hundreds of thousands of excess deaths; invoked a mob and attempted to overthrow democracy; and, if re-elected, would cause millions of people in a free country to lose their freedom and or their lives; would do the same to the people in Gaza; would attempt to deport and/or detain millions of immigrants in this country; would use the levers of government to persecute and prosecute his perceived enemies; would attempt to stifle a free press; would deprive half of the country's citizens of their bodily autonomy; would weaken if not outright destroy international alliances and threaten global stability; has a life-long record of bullying, racism, misogyny, and fraud.

I wouldn't want to interact with either of these people. They both pose a threat to society. But that's where the similarity ends. In the first case, that looks to me a lot like the system working the way it should. In the latter -- wow.

Enough with the ingenuousness.  I'm a small-c conservative, which means I'm a big fan of civil liberties, strong defense, fiscal responsibility, and standing firm against Russia and authoritarians, generally. Tossing the Constitution; denigrating our all-volunteer military; spouting harebrained, half-baked "economic policies" (200% tariffs are not a thing); spouting racist conspiracy theories; rolling over for and openly admiring dictators: these are not conservative stances, they are postures signaling weakness, not strength.

Haiti is the poorest country in the Western hemisphere. Targeting the Haitians who have come here to work and to build better lives for their families is what insecure bullies do. It's not Christian, and it's not American. Embracing hate, anger, and revenge is toxic; it's what weak, stunted people do instead of working on themselves and their issues. Stoking your rage and directing it against enemies, real or perceived, won't actually make you feel better; it will not fill the hole inside you, it will not build anything, it only destroys.

I was raised in that sort of environment, with the performative cruelty and cosplaying toughness, the pettiness, the paranoia. It's corrosive. And now I see that behavior being flaunted and praised and excused and waved away, on a national scale, and it just makes me sick to see it.

Totally agree! The MAGA base and all who support it are the sect of America that I want nothing to do with! 

Johnny Abruzzo

I'm pretty sure they know there's a good chance they are executing innocent people. I think they're doing it on purpose. Just like they're killing women with their Crist-Fascist forced pregnancy laws. And they keep lying about Haitians or whoever is the outsider du jour even though they know they are lying and they know exactly what damage they are causing to Springfield, OH or whatever Springfield they're putting in danger this week. And they know their hideous gun "laws" are going to get kids killed. Just a disgusting movement and group of people. As always, the cruelty is the point.

njhaley1

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/harris-campaign-office-damaged-gunfire-arizona-rcna172463

Harris campaign office damaged by gunfire in Arizona

I blame the liberal media for fanning the flames. 

Halifax2TheMax

njhaley1 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/harris-campaign-office-damaged-gunfire-arizona-rcna172463

Harris campaign office damaged by gunfire in Arizona

I blame the liberal media for fanning the flames. 

Just more “responsible” gun owners showing how “responsible” they are.

Merkin Baller

Whether it's trump & his campaign threatening our democracy and stoking violence, or Harris and her campaign calling out trump for threatening democracy and stoking violence, it's clear both sides have a problem with violence and need to tone down the rhetoric. 

curmudgeoness

Merkin Baller said:

Whether it's trump & his campaign threatening our democracy and stoking violence, or Harris and her campaign calling out trump for threatening democracy and stoking violence, it's clear both sides have a problem with violence and need to tone down the rhetoric. 

Did the NYTimes pitchbot hijack your account? 

mickeyrat

curmudgeoness said:

Merkin Baller said:

Whether it's trump & his campaign threatening our democracy and stoking violence, or Harris and her campaign calling out trump for threatening democracy and stoking violence, it's clear both sides have a problem with violence and need to tone down the rhetoric. 

Did the NYTimes pitchbot hijack your account? 

stole it FROM nyt pitchbot.

Merkin Baller

mickeyrat said:

curmudgeoness said:

Merkin Baller said:

Whether it's trump & his campaign threatening our democracy and stoking violence, or Harris and her campaign calling out trump for threatening democracy and stoking violence, it's clear both sides have a problem with violence and need to tone down the rhetoric. 

Did the NYTimes pitchbot hijack your account? 

stole it FROM nyt pitchbot. 

Good artists borrow, great artists steal. 

Johnny Abruzzo

Merkin Baller said:

Whether it's trump & his campaign threatening our democracy and stoking violence, or Harris and her campaign calling out trump for threatening democracy and stoking violence, it's clear both sides have a problem with violence and need to tone down the rhetoric. 

From that twitter account "Fake NYT Headlines" or something like that.

mickeyrat

The Juggler

mickeyrat said:

Glad to hear. I want more of this. 

Also...I would love for her campaign to turn the debate into a townhall or something assuming Trump chickens out. 

Poncier

teskeinc said:

This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison  He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure. 

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/inmate-who-strangled-11-month-old-will-get-taxpayer-funded-gender-surgery-judge-rules-autumn-cordellion-lgbt-transgender-affirming-care-lgbtq-midwest-law-legal-justice-federal-court-baby-strangle-male-female

Cutting his balls off seems like a good idea to me.

Gern Blansten

teskeinc said:

This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison  He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure. 

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/inmate-who-strangled-11-month-old-will-get-taxpayer-funded-gender-surgery-judge-rules-autumn-cordellion-lgbt-transgender-affirming-care-lgbtq-midwest-law-legal-justice-federal-court-baby-strangle-male-female

Correct me if I'm wrong but this seems to be the narrative a lot of duped low information voters are pushing. This person was already under doctor care. They aren't receiving procedures BECAUSE they are incarcerated. It's just that the treatment they were receiving will be continued in prison. Just like if they were receiving chemo or dialysis treatment. 

The Juggler

njhaley1

God damn it, Arizona.  This is the expected result from being last in the nation in education.  

The Juggler

njhaley1 said:

God damn it, Arizona.  This is the expected result from being last in the nation in education.  

Just keep Kari Lake out of the senate. We'll take care of the rest in PA haha

cincybearcat

Gern Blansten said:

teskeinc said:

This is Autumn Cordellione, he strangled a 11 month old baby to death. He is serving 55 years in prison  He wants a sex-change operation in prison. In Kamala’s America he/she/it gets one……on the American tax-payers dime. It’s not medically necessary, it’s an elective ($100,000) procedure. 

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/inmate-who-strangled-11-month-old-will-get-taxpayer-funded-gender-surgery-judge-rules-autumn-cordellion-lgbt-transgender-affirming-care-lgbtq-midwest-law-legal-justice-federal-court-baby-strangle-male-female

Correct me if I'm wrong but this seems to be the narrative a lot of duped low information voters are pushing. This person was already under doctor care. They aren't receiving procedures BECAUSE they are incarcerated. It's just that the treatment they were receiving will be continued in prison. Just like if they were receiving chemo or dialysis treatment. 

It's not just like chemo though, or dialysis...at all.

But I do think a case by case decision makes sense and care could continue.  But I think it should be a high bar to clear.

cincybearcat

https://www.courierpress.com/story/news/local/2024/09/20/judge-sides-with-transgender-inmate-seeking-gender-affirming-surgery/75305308007/

There is A LOT going on with this murderer.