** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,053
    teskeinc said:
    Imagine supporting a candidate who wants to use tax payer dollars (money that you worked for that was deducted from your paycheck whether you wanted or not) to perform sex change surgeries for prison inmates and illegal immigrants. 

    What is the real story behind this "sex changes for prisoners" narrative?

    My take was that Harris basically just said if someone is currently under a doctor's care then that care should still be available to them if incarcerated. Then the GOP ran with it into the normal idiocy.
    My understanding is that it comes down to Medicaid covering it or not, which in several states it does to a certain level. (Including Mississippi and Florida) Whether someone’s incarcerated doesn’t make a difference. 
  • teskeinc said:
    Imagine supporting a candidate who wants to use tax payer dollars (money that you worked for that was deducted from your paycheck whether you wanted or not) to perform sex change surgeries for prison inmates and illegal immigrants. 

    What is the real story behind this "sex changes for prisoners" narrative?

    My take was that Harris basically just said if someone is currently under a doctor's care then that care should still be available to them if incarcerated. Then the GOP ran with it into the normal idiocy.
    My understanding is that it comes down to Medicaid covering it or not, which in several states it does to a certain level. (Including Mississippi and Florida) Whether someone’s incarcerated doesn’t make a difference. 
    its funny how maga takes an issue that impacts less than 100 people in any given state and makes it this huge issue and then that becomes their line of attack on a presidential candidate. they can't win on things like, say, obamacare reform or inflation reduction, something the impacts most americans, but here they are making an issue out of something that impacts less than 500 people nationwide.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,007
    Like the 13 dead during the Afghanistan withdrawal....from a suicide bomber....versus 65 dead under trump.
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  • Like the 13 dead during the Afghanistan withdrawal....from a suicide bomber....versus 65 dead under trump.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,861
    teskeinc said:
    Imagine supporting a candidate who wants to use tax payer dollars (money that you worked for that was deducted from your paycheck whether you wanted or not) to perform sex change surgeries for prison inmates and illegal immigrants. 

    What is the real story behind this "sex changes for prisoners" narrative?

    My take was that Harris basically just said if someone is currently under a doctor's care then that care should still be available to them if incarcerated. Then the GOP ran with it into the normal idiocy.
    My understanding is that it comes down to Medicaid covering it or not, which in several states it does to a certain level. (Including Mississippi and Florida) Whether someone’s incarcerated doesn’t make a difference. 
    its funny how maga takes an issue that impacts less than 100 people in any given state and makes it this huge issue and then that becomes their line of attack on a presidential candidate. they can't win on things like, say, obamacare reform or inflation reduction, something the impacts most americans, but here they are making an issue out of something that impacts less than 500 people nationwide.
    Exactly.

    Disingenuous bullshit. All of it. All of them. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,603
    I'm in Charlotte heading to SFO right now.  Was in the American club and this old guy (72, he said) at the bar behind me started complaining about how kids don't listen these days and when he was a kid,  blah blah blah.  And then he said the Civil Rights Act was the worst law in US history because it only allowed kids to ignore their parents.  I turned around and laughed right at him. These people are nuts.  They are utterly clueless. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    I'm in Charlotte heading to SFO right now.  Was in the American club and this old guy (72, he said) at the bar behind me started complaining about how kids don't listen these days and when he was a kid,  blah blah blah.  And then he said the Civil Rights Act was the worst law in US history because it only allowed kids to ignore their parents.  I turned around and laughed right at him. These people are nuts.  They are utterly clueless. 
    honestly though, he could have said it was the worst law for other reasons and i would have been more angry about it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1 said:
    I'm in Charlotte heading to SFO right now.  Was in the American club and this old guy (72, he said) at the bar behind me started complaining about how kids don't listen these days and when he was a kid,  blah blah blah.  And then he said the Civil Rights Act was the worst law in US history because it only allowed kids to ignore their parents.  I turned around and laughed right at him. These people are nuts.  They are utterly clueless. 

    This is a good reminder that the cruelty is the point. That's like my dad telling the story of how his brother told "the old man" no once, and "the old man" threw him down a flight of stairs (this was deemed an appropriate reaction). Might makes right, etc.
    Also: the Civil Rights Act is sixty years old, which means it was a thing when this dude was a kid.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,603
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm in Charlotte heading to SFO right now.  Was in the American club and this old guy (72, he said) at the bar behind me started complaining about how kids don't listen these days and when he was a kid,  blah blah blah.  And then he said the Civil Rights Act was the worst law in US history because it only allowed kids to ignore their parents.  I turned around and laughed right at him. These people are nuts.  They are utterly clueless. 
    honestly though, he could have said it was the worst law for other reasons and i would have been more angry about it.
    It's a smoke screen,  right wing style.  Criticize a law using absurd logic. At the end of the day,  it's a dig against the law, period. It has no application to children and parents other than outlawing segregated schools.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,390
    Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988


    I guess you weren’t alive on 1/6/21 
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  • Pretty good article talking about Springfield, OH, the issues and the differing opinions of the influx of Haitians there. HuffPost, I'd agree, leans fairly liberal but this article seems to do a good job of gathering all the viewpoints.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/springfield-ohio-donald-trump-haitians_n_66e784f7e4b0d38f2df520cf
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  • there was a bomb threat called into to a Springfield school on picture day because of Trump and Vance's Haitain pet story. 
    its a shame.

    more trauma for the kids. our politics have put all of the kids through enough in my opinion.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988


    you, and your party, have ZERO credibility. 

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/us/springfield-ohio-closures-threats/index.html
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,007
    crazy magats....my wife and I were just talking about this yesterday. I don't have a Harris sign but no fucking way would I put it out in my hood in this environment.

    Sixteen years ago someone pulled up my Obama sign and brought it to our front door. The guy told my wife that "we aren't allowed to have political signs" in the neighborhood. She asked him if he was going around pulling up all the McCain signs as there were several around. Of course he had no answer for that. She put it back out and he didn't come back.
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  • Philly NJPhilly NJ Posts: 206
    Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988



    Do you recall May 31, 2020 in DC?  Do you recall the Summer of BLM? BTW, show me some Trump telling people to enter the capital using violence? In fact, Twitter took down his video telling people to go home and cooperate with authorities. Wonder why they did that? 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,007
    Philly NJ said:
    Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988



    Do you recall May 31, 2020 in DC?  Do you recall the Summer of BLM? BTW, show me some Trump telling people to enter the capital using violence? In fact, Twitter took down his video telling people to go home and cooperate with authorities. Wonder why they did that? 
    why? Because it incited further violence. He said that the election was fraudulent.

    Plus it was way after everything started to dissipate...your hero is a criminal piece of shit.
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  • crazy magats....my wife and I were just talking about this yesterday. I don't have a Harris sign but no fucking way would I put it out in my hood in this environment.

    Sixteen years ago someone pulled up my Obama sign and brought it to our front door. The guy told my wife that "we aren't allowed to have political signs" in the neighborhood. She asked him if he was going around pulling up all the McCain signs as there were several around. Of course he had no answer for that. She put it back out and he didn't come back.
    yeah i hear ya. someone gave me a lawn job and ran over my john kerry sign one year. also had my obama sign stolen in 2008. have not put a sign up since. don't really need to at this point. my neighbors know my politics. these days you put a harris sign in the front yard and someone may shoot your windows out.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,861
    Philly NJ said:
    Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988



    Do you recall May 31, 2020 in DC?  Do you recall the Summer of BLM? BTW, show me some Trump telling people to enter the capital using violence? In fact, Twitter took down his video telling people to go home and cooperate with authorities. Wonder why they did that? 
    Can you do me a favor and show me all the Biden paraphernalia worn on these instances you cited?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,758
    edited September 16
    Philly NJ said:
    Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988



    Do you recall May 31, 2020 in DC?  Do you recall the Summer of BLM? BTW, show me some Trump telling people to enter the capital using violence? In fact, Twitter took down his video telling people to go home and cooperate with authorities. Wonder why they did that? 
    I don't think you can be reasoned with. You're comparing protests and unrest related to yet another event between police and minorities that occurred regardless of political affiliation with the continued lies, xenophobia and hateful rhetoric of a president and candidate for president without any verifiable evidence of a crime or wrong doing. The minority community acted out and garnered support from those who recognize there is still inequity in how black men and women are treated by law enforcement. Pull your head out of the sand. Trump didn't send any message for 2 hours and when he did, the message didn't condemn the violence so he was forced to send another one. He's the fucking president, he could have sent in the same national guard he tried to berate governors and mayors in blue cities about the previous year. He knew they were his supporters and acting on his behalf. No accountability as usual. Can you imagine working for someone like Trump? What a complete piece of shit. Seems Mike Pence finally figured it out and so did most of his cabinet.

    Maybe educate yourself and read the timeline for January 6th again. I think you have selective memory. 

    https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1069977469/a-timeline-of-how-the-jan-6-attack-unfolded-including-who-said-what-and-when
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    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,053
    Philly NJ said:
    Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988



    Do you recall May 31, 2020 in DC?  Do you recall the Summer of BLM? BTW, show me some Trump telling people to enter the capital using violence? In fact, Twitter took down his video telling people to go home and cooperate with authorities. Wonder why they did that? 
    He organized a rally, saying it would be wild, convinced over 50 million republicans the election was stolen, told them at the rally to fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country any longer, and then waited about 3 hrs to tell the beautiful people to go home. 

    How many violent BLM rallies did Hillary organize? 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,758
    Philly NJ said:
    Philly NJ said:
    Harris, the leader of the Political Party of violence. 

    https://x.com/i/status/1835559913348845988



    Do you recall May 31, 2020 in DC?  Do you recall the Summer of BLM? BTW, show me some Trump telling people to enter the capital using violence? In fact, Twitter took down his video telling people to go home and cooperate with authorities. Wonder why they did that? 
    He organized a rally, saying it would be wild, convinced over 50 million republicans the election was stolen, told them at the rally to fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country any longer, and then waited about 3 hrs to tell the beautiful people to go home. 

    How many violent BLM rallies did Hillary organize? 
    Well, she wasn't even black then, so I don't think she was allowed to organize them yet. 😉
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,861
    The BLM stuff is a ridiculous comparison though. Does he really think those anarchist who burned buildings and shit were voting for Joe Biden? lol
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  • njhaley1njhaley1 Posts: 778
    edited September 16
    crazy magats....my wife and I were just talking about this yesterday. I don't have a Harris sign but no fucking way would I put it out in my hood in this environment.
    Begs the question.  Do we really have free speech any longer? I don't believe we do. 

    I wouldn't put a sticker on my car, or a sign in my yard, for fear that my life would be in jeopardy.
    Post edited by njhaley1 on
  • njhaley1 said:
    crazy magats....my wife and I were just talking about this yesterday. I don't have a Harris sign but no fucking way would I put it out in my hood in this environment.
    Begs the question.  Do we really have free speech any longer? I don't believe we do. 

    I wouldn't put a sticker on my car, or a sign in my yard, for fear that my life would be in jeopardy.
    i don't think my life would be in jeopardy, but my property for sure. i don't need the hassle.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,603
    The BLM stuff is a ridiculous comparison though. Does he really think those anarchist who burned buildings and shit were voting for Joe Biden? lol
    I know,  so fucking stupid. Only one event included political uniforms.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,020
    njhaley1 said:
    crazy magats....my wife and I were just talking about this yesterday. I don't have a Harris sign but no fucking way would I put it out in my hood in this environment.
    Begs the question.  Do we really have free speech any longer? I don't believe we do. 

    We do. It’s just occasionally the consequences can be more severe. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,455
    njhaley1 said:
    crazy magats....my wife and I were just talking about this yesterday. I don't have a Harris sign but no fucking way would I put it out in my hood in this environment.
    Begs the question.  Do we really have free speech any longer? I don't believe we do. 

    I wouldn't put a sticker on my car, or a sign in my yard, for fear that my life would be in jeopardy.

    freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequences
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