The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

Yieldwaukee

iwasatpj20 said:

Hopefully a show in Milwaukee or other Midwest shows are announced

I second Milwaukee. Fiserv Forum for the first time.

shetellsherself

Bring on 2025! 

JF241710

How about:

Memphis

Birmingham

Atlanta

Tampa

Orlando

Miami

Jacksonville

Athens

Columbia

Charlotte

Raleigh

we're overdue down here

MikeDigs

Continuing to dream of a No Code show at the Sphere

MS149515

VFC 2024?

OceanSoul71

South America in March/April - what do you think?

MikeDigs

OceanSoul71 said:

South America in March/April - what do you think?

I think a Pearl Jam Week in Buenos Aires sounds really nice.  Sign me up for that

Go Animal

MS149515 said:

VFC 2024?

I pitched it here on the forum. No eyes on it (or they already had plans). HeadCount will be at Ohana, so that's as close as we'll get to a VFC type show.

OceanSoul71

Kearn5y said:

seanclax said:

just_one said:

the spring 2025 shows will only be announced after the US tour is over

Not long to go then

Id say more than likely after the Oz & NZ tour if its going to happen. Works nicely with a December announcement. 

This makes sense.

shep

JF241710 said:

How about:

Memphis

Birmingham

Atlanta

Tampa

Orlando

Miami

Jacksonville

Athens

Columbia

Charlotte

Raleigh

we're overdue down here

yea... that's not going to happen.  you'll remain overdue, just like Houston.  If i could never set foot in most of those states again, I wouldn't.  can't see why people with a choice would either. (the same applies for Houston, and I live here).

Back to talking about my spring show in toronto.

MikeDigs

shep said:

JF241710 said:

How about:

Memphis

Birmingham

Atlanta

Tampa

Orlando

Miami

Jacksonville

Athens

Columbia

Charlotte

Raleigh

we're overdue down here

yea... that's not going to happen.  you'll remain overdue, just like Houston.  If i could never set foot in most of those states again, I wouldn't.  can't see why people with a choice would either. (the same applies for Houston, and I live here).

Back to talking about my spring show in toronto.

Right, I keep seeing these kind of requests for a standard tour, hit some cities and continue the 25 song set lists with lots of hits to cater to the casuals, not to mention the low crowd energy (Philly is my standard, so low energy irks me).

Or...  Wouldn't you rather have our favorite legendary band, play 3 legendary shows (PJ20 style), at a legendary location??

One of these things is not like the other people...  Standard greatest hits show hitting random cities, or a legendary show at a legendary location with fucking rare gems songs and deep cuts.  Seems an easy choice to me!

The obvious choices to me, for Pearl Jam Week 2025 shows, would be The Gorge and Philadelphia.  And for London, Hyde Park seems great.
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard".
If they do less locations they can do more songs!
More songs!  Rare gems and deep cuts!  Legendary location and crowd!  Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.

Vote Pearl Jam Week for 2025!

Bunting10

MikeDigs said:

shep said:

JF241710 said:

How about:

Memphis

Birmingham

Atlanta

Tampa

Orlando

Miami

Jacksonville

Athens

Columbia

Charlotte

Raleigh

we're overdue down here

yea... that's not going to happen.  you'll remain overdue, just like Houston.  If i could never set foot in most of those states again, I wouldn't.  can't see why people with a choice would either. (the same applies for Houston, and I live here).

Back to talking about my spring show in toronto.

Right, I keep seeing these kind of requests for a standard tour, hit some cities and continue the 25 song set lists with lots of hits to cater to the casuals, not to mention the low crowd energy (Philly is my standard, so low energy irks me).

Or...  Wouldn't you rather have our favorite legendary band, play 3 legendary shows (PJ20 style), at a legendary location??

One of these things is not like the other people...  Standard greatest hits show hitting random cities, or a legendary show at a legendary location with fucking rare gems songs and deep cuts.  Seems an easy choice to me!

The obvious choices to me, for Pearl Jam Week 2025 shows, would be The Gorge and Philadelphia.  And for London, Hyde Park seems great.
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard".
If they do less locations they can do more songs!
More songs!  Rare gems and deep cuts!  Legendary location and crowd!  Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.

Vote Pearl Jam Week for 2025!

Is this what the “Project 2025” was that they were referring to last night?  Lol 

SandyRavage

MikeDigs said:

Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard".
If they do less locations they can do more songs!
More songs!  Rare gems and deep cuts!  Legendary location and crowd!  Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.

The problem is that we AREN'T saying that, and we DON'T want that, and the few people that do promote this over and over again is because that is literally what the band is doing and has been doing post-covid. 

But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there? 

njhaley1

SandyRavage said:

MikeDigs said:

Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard".
If they do less locations they can do more songs!
More songs!  Rare gems and deep cuts!  Legendary location and crowd!  Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.

But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there? 

Seattle was the same.  Pretty disappointing.

MikeDigs

SandyRavage said:

MikeDigs said:

Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard".
If they do less locations they can do more songs!
More songs!  Rare gems and deep cuts!  Legendary location and crowd!  Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.

The problem is that we AREN'T saying that, and we DON'T want that, and the few people that do promote this over and over again is because that is literally what the band is doing and has been doing post-covid. 

But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there? 

You may not be, but I've many that are saying that.  Also, I'm not sure you are understanding.  You mentioned Pearl Jam Week, and then directly compared it to the standard tour.  Maybe you missed some details, but the idea of Pearl Jam Week is not to repeat.  Not standard tour.  Legendary shows.  Not going to repeat all details here to you when they are in the message that you quoted, as well as the Pearl Jam Week thread.

"Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?"
This is blatantly incorrect and never mentioned as a detail of Pearl Jam Week.
How would you even consider that "Legendary"?

Some of the main reasons that I proposed the Pearl Jam Week concept, are more songs, less repeats, more deep cuts.  It is written in the thread.

MikeDigs

njhaley1 said:

SandyRavage said:

MikeDigs said:

Right, I keep seeing these kind of requests for a standard tour, hit some cities and continue the 25 song set lists with lots of hits to cater to the casuals, not to mention the low crowd energy (Philly is my standard, so low energy irks me).

Or...  Wouldn't you rather have our favorite legendary band, play 3 legendary shows (PJ20 style), at a legendary location??

One of these things is not like the other people...  Standard greatest hits show hitting random cities, or a legendary show at a legendary location with fucking rare gems songs and deep cuts.  Seems an easy choice to me!

The obvious choices to me, for Pearl Jam Week 2025 shows, would be The Gorge and Philadelphia.  And for London, Hyde Park seems great.
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard".
If they do less locations they can do more songs!
More songs!  Rare gems and deep cuts!  Legendary location and crowd!  Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.

Vote Pearl Jam Week for 2025!

But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there? 

Seattle was the same.  Pretty disappointing.

This is exactly the reason why I proposed the Pearl Jam Week.  After seeing the repeated songs, and the many hits, less deep cuts.
Sandy tagged on some mis-info to my idea which may lead to confusion.  I recommend reading the thread.

But if you want legendary shows, more deep cuts, less repeats, legendary location, and great crowd energy, then vote Pearl Jam Week 2025 

schaefferlax

I think it's easy to lose sight on this forum that PJ is a very popular band outside of the die hards here. Rock fans who are casual PJ fans will want to come to their local shows, and they will want to hear the hits. That's totally fine and the band owes their success to that audience as well. I want to hear the deep cuts as much as anyone but remember, there are a ton of people at any given venue that have not heard Even Flow live!!

MikeDigs

schaefferlax said:

I think it's easy to lose sight on this forum that PJ is a very popular band outside of the die hards here. Rock fans who are casual PJ fans will want to come to their local shows, and they will want to hear the hits. That's totally fine and the band owes their success to that audience as well. I want to hear the deep cuts as much as anyone but remember, there are a ton of people at any given venue that have not heard Even Flow live!!

People around me at LA N2 only ever heard Ten album.  I was trying to talk Dark Matter, and they didn't hear it.  But only ever listening to Ten album.  That is super casual lol.

I'm all for casuals going to Pearl Jam Week 2025, but it should be noted in the marketing that this is a special show, geared to the hard core fans, and a celebration of Pearl Jam.  This will attract more hardcore fans to travel, because like you and I, we all want to see the legendary shows.  If casuals want to check it then all good.

Like for 311 day, casuals can go, but they should know that it is a show catered to hardcore fans and mostly deep cuts.
So let the casuals come if they want to.  But the style of the show is going to attract many hard core fans.  And in a legendary location like the Gorge or Philly, great crowd energy.

Get_Right

Some of us die hards have not lost sight of the popularity. If they did some kind of travel excursion like one big holiday, fans would be even more angry about the prices. A week at the gorge VIP 10K. Yeah no thanks.

SandyRavage

I think your happiest medium is going to be the Sphere shows. 

It's too late in PJ's career for them to be doing like Phish does and creating little "weeks" or "festivals" where ever they go. Ideally they could have started a Festival/Week in 95 or 96 when they were fighting Ticketmaster and the end of the Grateful Dead and rise of Dave Matthews and Phish, and they basically did, but PJ summer tour didn't quite stick like DMB and Phish. 

The Sphere seems right up PJ's alley, considering bands OLDER than PJ have adapted to the technology quite quickly. I mean the freaking Eagles are next up... 

As an Idea, it's amazing. And from a band that did something like PJ20 14 years ago now, it seems like they could be making a lot of the more recent shows extremely special and wanting them to do something that feels out of the ordinary now has felt like the norm for awhile now. Especially when this band has played 125 different songs this year, but still choose's to play repeats on multiple nights. 



Honest question to everyone here, especially those who go to multiple shows a year:

If PJ plays the Sphere and you're guaranteed to hear:
-1 full album of songs, any album from Ten to Dark Matter, but only ONE album
-maybe 5 to 6  different/deep cut songs a night (this could be like how they go about the deep cuts now, or an "a" or "b" setlist) 
-a mini set of songs they could rotate to close the shows (Given to Fly, DTE, Corduroy, Better Man, Just Breathe, all the hits etc etc) 

how many shows would you try to go to? 

Say they only announce 10 shows. If you KNOW they're going to play "Ten" every. single. night. Would you still buy tickets for multiple shows, or would you do it once or twice and move on? Would you attempt to make it to every single show?

at that point does the audio/visual element and rarity of the shows outweigh the element of suprise that is usually revealed with the Setlist? 

Get_Right said:

Some of us die hards have not lost sight of the popularity. If they did some kind of travel excursion like one big holiday, fans would be even more angry about the prices. A week at the gorge VIP 10K. Yeah no thanks.

PJ have been very conservative when it comes to destination events. They could have gone the route of those "en la Playa" getaway concerts that all the Jam and Jam-adjacent bands have been doing for years now, but instead they may or may not do Ohana and don't look at anything else. Ohana has become Ed's baby and people already complain about the prices of those tickets and how quickly it sells