I find PJ to be one of the most irregular and unpredictable touring
bands. Maybe some people are into that and find it endearing. No
doubt, they can and have earned the right to do as they want. I guess
it just gets a little old with, 'maybe they'll do this and maybe they'll
do that.' Endless speculative hope. It's one thing if there are legit rumors. We got nothin'. We have hopes. We have dreams. I guess that's enough?
Even me, when they
were here in Philly in 2016 at the Ten show and Eddie was remarking on
the 10 flag referencing how many shows Bruce played here saying we have
to play X amount of shows every year. I took that as challenge
accepted. Then, they didn't come back until 2024. I guess one could
count Camden in 2022, but that would be half a point in a full point
system.
Even The Rolling Stones tour more frequently with longer
tours. Granted, stadiums. So, no thank you regarding PJ. Other than
Wrigley and Fenway of course
Would a lot of you be happier if they released an album, played 100-125 shows, then went away for 4 years? Certainly some of their touring decisions in the last 20 years have been head scratchers, but i like that they are at least playing some shows pretty much every year. Its tough, touring would suck, especially when you’re 50 plus, and you cant blame them for not wanting to do it the “normal” way.
Do you think an announcement of a fall NA leg might hurt ticket sales for the springs hence keeping a lid on it?
The spring is sold out. Except premium tickets.
If anything it hurts the fall because people already made plans to travel for the spring. Still the answer is no.
There’s not enough dates for them to be worried about not selling.
The spring is not sold out. Guaranteed TM is holding a bunch of tickets to release closer to the date. That has been their pattern consistently since 2022.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Do you think an announcement of a fall NA leg might hurt ticket sales for the springs hence keeping a lid on it?
The spring is sold out. Except premium tickets.
If anything it hurts the fall because people already made plans to travel for the spring. Still the answer is no.
There’s not enough dates for them to be worried about not selling.
The spring is not sold out. Guaranteed TM is holding a bunch of tickets to release closer to the date. That has been their pattern consistently since 2022.
Bud……duh. ticketmaster has always done this for most shows. Not just PJ
I mean currently. As of now they’re sold out. Cmon now. That doesn’t change the fact it won’t hurt sales….they aren’t worried about 50-100 more tickets for each spring show
Some shows last year they released hundreds or even thousands of tickets closer to.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I find PJ to be one of the most irregular and unpredictable touring
bands. Maybe some people are into that and find it endearing. No
doubt, they can and have earned the right to do as they want. I guess
it just gets a little old with, 'maybe they'll do this and maybe they'll
do that.' Endless speculative hope. It's one thing if there are legit rumors. We got nothin'. We have hopes. We have dreams. I guess that's enough?
Even me, when they
were here in Philly in 2016 at the Ten show and Eddie was remarking on
the 10 flag referencing how many shows Bruce played here saying we have
to play X amount of shows every year. I took that as challenge
accepted. Then, they didn't come back until 2024. I guess one could
count Camden in 2022, but that would be half a point in a full point
system.
Even The Rolling Stones tour more frequently with longer
tours. Granted, stadiums. So, no thank you regarding PJ. Other than
Wrigley and Fenway of course
I was just being an a-hole in reference to your corrigibility (or lack thereof).
I share your frustrations with the touring schedule. It's only getting harder & harder to see these guys and I don't think it's going to get any easier or better moving forward, especially what with the direction the 10C tickets are going.
Would a lot of you be happier if they released an album, played 100-125 shows, then went away for 4 years? Certainly some of their touring decisions in the last 20 years have been head scratchers, but i like that they are at least playing some shows pretty much every year. Its tough, touring would suck, especially when you’re 50 plus, and you cant blame them for not wanting to do it the “normal” way.
You sort of read my mind. I was going to come back in here and post credit, where credit is due, since it seems they've been picking up the pace with touring. Who knows if that will last? Sometimes, it's just a little, only a little, bothersome that the onus and financial investment is on us to have to travel and see them when they have the infrastructure to do it.
If one isn't traveling and they don't play your city, then ostensibly they have gone away for four years. Unfortunately, that's most cities and markets. Like you said, it's a head scratcher. We have sort of been forced into a travel or no dice situation. Like I had said before, and no doubt you already knew this, they hadn't played Philly in 8 years with Camden for one night being the exception. If someone is attempting to travel getting shut out of multiple tours (me) because demand is high due to there aren't enough shows around the country, then that also hurts our rabid fanbase. Like an idiot, I paid for premium tickets on Philly day of sale, which I will never do again because now we can all see what Ticketmaster is doing.
Double edit: When two premium tickets to two shows eat up what would have been the cost of 5 shows through the 10C. Sure, my fault. But, the rabidness. Booo Ticketmaster. Booo me too. And boo hoo cry me a river. I'll see myself out.
I find PJ to be one of the most irregular and unpredictable touring
bands. Maybe some people are into that and find it endearing. No
doubt, they can and have earned the right to do as they want. I guess
it just gets a little old with, 'maybe they'll do this and maybe they'll
do that.' Endless speculative hope. It's one thing if there are legit rumors. We got nothin'. We have hopes. We have dreams. I guess that's enough?
Even me, when they
were here in Philly in 2016 at the Ten show and Eddie was remarking on
the 10 flag referencing how many shows Bruce played here saying we have
to play X amount of shows every year. I took that as challenge
accepted. Then, they didn't come back until 2024. I guess one could
count Camden in 2022, but that would be half a point in a full point
system.
Even The Rolling Stones tour more frequently with longer
tours. Granted, stadiums. So, no thank you regarding PJ. Other than
Wrigley and Fenway of course
Would a lot of you be happier if they released an album, played 100-125 shows, then went away for 4 years? Certainly some of their touring decisions in the last 20 years have been head scratchers, but i like that they are at least playing some shows pretty much every year. Its tough, touring would suck, especially when you’re 50 plus, and you cant blame them for not wanting to do it the “normal” way.
Some shows last year they released hundreds or even thousands of tickets closer to.
What shows?
Almost all of them dude. You scored Philly 1 day of on TM drop. I scored Philly 2 day of on TM drop. But msg dropped standards, the ballparks were dropping tickets, the west coast leg was a joke…I got my LV1 ticket 12 rows up from Mike the week before the show on a drop after refreshing for months.
2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I think you could have gotten tickets day of for literally every show last tour. I was watching them all pretty closely (except for maybe MSG?). I got GA for Indy hours before the show (Thanks @SHZA and @JE224127) could have gotten SEA2 as well if I would have been a little more hardcore about it. Baltimore had pretty much any seat in the house as did Mizz and most west coast shows.
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Some shows last year they released hundreds or even thousands of tickets closer to.
What shows?
Vancouver night 2 they released about 1000 lower bowl tickets two weeks before the show. When again, both shows “sold out” on the first day, and i know lots of people who registered for the sale but didn’t receive the code to participate. Complete bullshit, what they do Both of the shows ended up full, but what a move to pull. Bands should be pissed about this…..
Some shows last year they released hundreds or even thousands of tickets closer to.
What shows?
Vancouver night 2 they released about 1000 lower bowl tickets two weeks before the show. When again, both shows “sold out” on the first day, and i know lots of people who registered for the sale but didn’t receive the code to participate. Complete bullshit, what they do Both of the shows ended up full, but what a move to pull. Bands should be pissed about this…..
Why would the band be pissed? They want to sell the Premium tickets for as much as they can. When they aren't selling, then the prices eventually drop. The band is a business and wants to make the most money per show that they can. Look at the Europe shows - they had poor planning and charged too much for the market which led to lower sales. They seem to have a better idea of the demand and what to charge in the US. Sacrifice a few empty seats in the end to sell others at over inflated prices. It is what it is and appears to be the model for most bands.
Some shows last year they released hundreds or even thousands of tickets closer to.
What shows?
Almost all of them dude. You scored Philly 1 day of on TM drop. I scored Philly 2 day of on TM drop. But msg dropped standards, the ballparks were dropping tickets, the west coast leg was a joke…I got my LV1 ticket 12 rows up from Mike the week before the show on a drop after refreshing for months.
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Would a lot of you be happier if they released an album, played 100-125 shows, then went away for 4 years? Certainly some of their touring decisions in the last 20 years have been head scratchers, but i like that they are at least playing some shows pretty much every year. Its tough, touring would suck, especially when you’re 50 plus, and you cant blame them for not wanting to do it the “normal” way.
You sort of read my mind. I was going to come back in here and post credit, where credit is due, since it seems they've been picking up the pace with touring. Who knows if that will last? Sometimes, it's just a little, only a little, bothersome that the onus and financial investment is on us to have to travel and see them when they have the infrastructure to do it.
If one isn't traveling and they don't play your city, then ostensibly they have gone away for four years. Unfortunately, that's most cities and markets. Like you said, it's a head scratcher. We have sort of been forced into a travel or no dice situation. Like I had said before, and no doubt you already knew this, they hadn't played Philly in 8 years with Camden for one night being the exception. If someone is attempting to travel getting shut out of multiple tours (me) because demand is high due to there aren't enough shows around the country, then that also hurts our rabid fanbase. Like an idiot, I paid for premium tickets on Philly day of sale, which I will never do again because now we can all see what Ticketmaster is doing.
Double edit: When two premium tickets to two shows eat up what would have been the cost of 5 shows through the 10C. Sure, my fault. But, the rabidness. Booo Ticketmaster. Booo me too. And boo hoo cry me a river. I'll see myself out.
Are you seriously trying to sell Philly as a city that isn’t getting enough shows? Sure it’d be nice to get them everywhere every year but 5 shows in 8 years (4.5 by your math) is pretty damn good when a double digit number of cities have gone a double digit number of years without shows.
Somehow, the new amphitheater in Richmond, VA pulled DMB and there’s rumors of Phish as well
i believe it only seats 7500-8000
Can I someday hope that Pearl Jam plays Richmond for the first time ever?
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I remember when Pearl Jam would have done the NJ > Brazil > NY tour dates within a week way back when. 😂
The two week Canada-Europe-Canada run was pretty wild in 2009.
Sorry… I wasn’t throwing stones at your post. Just a joke about how much more flexible DMB is tour wise these days. I would faint if PJ had a tour anywhere close to that DMB schedule.
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I share your frustrations with the touring schedule. It's only getting harder & harder to see these guys and I don't think it's going to get any easier or better moving forward, especially what with the direction the 10C tickets are going.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2006: Washington, D.C.
2008: Washington, D.C.
2010: Bristow, VA
2013: Baltimore, MD
2016: Hampton, VA
2020: Baltimore, MD
2023: Noblesville, IN TBD
2024: Seattle, WA N1 and N2 - Indianapolis, IN- Baltimore, MD
2025: TBD
Both of the shows ended up full, but what a move to pull. Bands should be pissed about this…..
i believe it only seats 7500-8000
Can I someday hope that Pearl Jam plays Richmond for the first time ever?
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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(Raleigh 2016)
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