The problem with the break or encore is your dealing with everyone else that is going to the bathroom or concessions. PJ's encores are so quick you absolutely risk missing the first song of the encore. I'd much rather head out during a longer song, or a song I don't necessarily care about missing and not have to fight the crowds. But that is just me.
I've gotten pretty good at hitting the bathroom right before the lights go down and then can pretty much hold it in for the next 2.5 hours lol. I typically never go get another beer during the show.
They've made it pretty easy what with the cost nowadays.
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
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The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.
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I always thinks it's so bizarre when people say shit like this -- music is so deeply personal for me that I just think it's so weird to judge what someone else likes. I don't personally like DMB but I don't think my musical taste is any better than someone who does because I like PJ -- that just feels like middle school mentality to me.
Counterpoint: It's fun to make fun of bands you don't like and, knowing how tastes vary, you shouldn't take it personally if someone shits on a band you like
I agree you shouldn't take it personally, and I wouldn't. I also wouldn't wanna be around someone who does. And if it's fun for you then fucking rock on, man -- live your best life. I just think it's kid shit and when I stopped having the "only my music is cool" attitude it opened me up to soooo much shit I wasn't allowing myself to like.
I don't really care for DMB but have a lot of respect for him as a musician and for the band as a whole. And there are some bangers in there -- I always like that Two Step song...something about that shuffling bluegrass beat and the melody is really interesting. I saw a post come across my feed recently when he was talking about getting inducted in the HoF and then told a story about the first club they played in and it was really touching...makes you realize how far they've come.
Anyways...how boring would it be if we all liked the same stuff?
It is hard to say anything bad about DMB. They take care of their fans and play a ton of live shows. The only critique I have is that the live shows get boring after about 60 mins. It's like the energizer bunny, they keep going and going without any direction. I do respect them as a live band.
The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.
They already have a short break at the end of the first set for them to hit the bathroom and grab a drink.
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The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
At a show last year Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age told the crowd told the crowd they weren’t going to do that dog and pony show. I think they were running out of time so they opted to play the full set and not take the break.
The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
I saw Guster doing a bit about this 25 years ago. “Ok the lights are gonna go down and we’re just gonna stand here. You guys pretend we’re out back doing lines off Tommy Lee’s rotating drum riser and cheer loudly for us to come back. And after a couple minutes the lights will come up and we’ll say ‘ok I gueeessss we could do 2 more’”
Soul Coughing last year introduced “the fake last song before a middle song and then the real last song”
Tool used to skip the encore too, they thought it was silly or something... then they got into their 50s and started taking a 15 minute break 3/4 of the way through their shows.
As Charles Barkley said, "Father Time is undefeated".
Tool used to skip the encore too, they thought it was silly or something... then they got into their 50s and started taking a 15 minute break 3/4 of the way through their shows.
As Charles Barkley said, "Father Time is undefeated".
I do like their clock that tells you how much longer you have before they come back.
The encore is kinda silly when you're seeing a club show and it's like 75 or 90 minute sets. When a set is over 2 hours I think it's probably good for the band to break, pause, regroup, whatever.
I saw this Sturgill tour - he and his band are absolute animals. Peak performance.
Tool used to skip the encore too, they thought it was silly or something... then they got into their 50s and started taking a 15 minute break 3/4 of the way through their shows.
As Charles Barkley said, "Father Time is undefeated".
I do like their clock that tells you how much longer you have before they come back.
The best move I ever made was to cut back or cut out drinking at shows. On occasion I might have 1 or 2, but that's an outlier. It's so nice to go to my seat, watch the show, and not have to go to the bathroom or concessions for more... no judgement here, I've been there done that, but man what a difference it made for the concert experience.
The best move I ever made was to cut back or cut out drinking at shows. On occasion I might have 1 or 2, but that's an outlier. It's so nice to go to my seat, watch the show, and not have to go to the bathroom or concessions for more... no judgement here, I've been there done that, but man what a difference it made for the concert experience.
This was me for years until I got married and had a kid and now it's HELL YEAH NIGHT OUT
The best move I ever made was to cut back or cut out drinking at shows. On occasion I might have 1 or 2, but that's an outlier. It's so nice to go to my seat, watch the show, and not have to go to the bathroom or concessions for more... no judgement here, I've been there done that, but man what a difference it made for the concert experience.
This was me for years until I got married and had a kid and now it's HELL YEAH NIGHT OUT
I hear that… being childless myself, if it’s a night where I can drink (weekend for example) I’ll go have a couple after the fact. I also don’t have a babysitter getting paid by the hour though, so I get it.
The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.
They already have a short break at the end of the first set for them to hit the bathroom and grab a drink.
Sure. I think what @HailHailVitalogy was proposing was an earlier, longer break to replace the later, shorter "encore" break -- as a way to prolong the night into two long sets. Lots of bands have done this before but it's primarily in "jam band" type circles. I think it's a cool concept.
Speaking of cool concepts -- I saw the Sessanta concert last year in Raleigh. James Maynard Keenan's 60th birthday party with Primus, Perfect Circle and Puscifer. Not really a fan of any of the bands but the setup was very cool -- all three lines were on the stage at the same time. Primus would play three songs and then go sit on the couch or play ping pong (still on stage) while perfect circle played three, etc. It felt more natural than the traditional "opener(s) then main act" rock concert format -- felt like we were all just hanging out and the bands would take turns doing these little short three song sets.
Would love to see some more creative format tours like that.
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The encore is kinda silly when you're seeing a club show and it's like 75 or 90 minute sets. When a set is over 2 hours I think it's probably good for the band to break, pause, regroup, whatever.
I saw this Sturgill tour - he and his band are absolute animals. Peak performance.
best show i saw last year and it wasn't close.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
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The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.
They already have a short break at the end of the first set for them to hit the bathroom and grab a drink.
Sure. I think what @HailHailVitalogy was proposing was an earlier, longer break to replace the later, shorter "encore" break -- as a way to prolong the night into two long sets. Lots of bands have done this before but it's primarily in "jam band" type circles. I think it's a cool concept.
Speaking of cool concepts -- I saw the Sessanta concert last year in Raleigh. James Maynard Keenan's 60th birthday party with Primus, Perfect Circle and Puscifer. Not really a fan of any of the bands but the setup was very cool -- all three lines were on the stage at the same time. Primus would play three songs and then go sit on the couch or play ping pong (still on stage) while perfect circle played three, etc. It felt more natural than the traditional "opener(s) then main act" rock concert format -- felt like we were all just hanging out and the bands would take turns doing these little short three song sets.
Would love to see some more creative format tours like that.
My original comment was in reference to his suggestion. It’s not a crazy idea. Just feels too much like a staged play with a scheduled intermission for me personally. We already have a loss of spontaneity with how the same songs are showing up in the same spots nightly. I’d hate to see the band move even more towards a predetermined format.
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The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.
They already have a short break at the end of the first set for them to hit the bathroom and grab a drink.
Sure. I think what @HailHailVitalogy was proposing was an earlier, longer break to replace the later, shorter "encore" break -- as a way to prolong the night into two long sets. Lots of bands have done this before but it's primarily in "jam band" type circles. I think it's a cool concept.
Speaking of cool concepts -- I saw the Sessanta concert last year in Raleigh. James Maynard Keenan's 60th birthday party with Primus, Perfect Circle and Puscifer. Not really a fan of any of the bands but the setup was very cool -- all three lines were on the stage at the same time. Primus would play three songs and then go sit on the couch or play ping pong (still on stage) while perfect circle played three, etc. It felt more natural than the traditional "opener(s) then main act" rock concert format -- felt like we were all just hanging out and the bands would take turns doing these little short three song sets.
Would love to see some more creative format tours like that.
My original comment was in reference to his suggestion. It’s not a crazy idea. Just feels too much like a staged play with a scheduled intermission for me personally. We already have a loss of spontaneity with how the same songs are showing up in the same spots nightly. I’d hate to see the band move even more towards a predetermined format.
It's also a moot point, IMO.
I don't think the band is going back to 30+ song nights; I would love to be wrong, but I don't see it happening.
Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists
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Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.
I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch
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Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.
I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch
Very good! Clips along at a really nice pace too. Doesn't meander. Feels shorter than it is.
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Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists
So i'm assuming you liked it, yeah? I think I was the one trying to sell you on going in with an open mind in another thread. I think the sheer variety of different songs in his shows is what gets me. I think PJ have played 150+ different songs since 2022, and Billy has played 500+ different songs since that time. Sure, most are covers so its apples to oranges really. While PJ's variety seems to diminish, Billy's has filled that void for me. I still pay to see PJ every year though, in hopes I do eventually get some songs I've been chasing.
As far as a set break, I think it could *maybe* improv the way PJ goes about their sets and offer some new variety with maybe something like an acoustic or all album "set", but the way they do it now: mini break that lasts 2:00-5:00 minutes, including an Eddie rant, then some slow songs into the grand finale is uniquely PJ and has been since at least 1993. The "break" doesn't guarantee how many songs follow it.
Having a timer like Tool does is very theater-esque and reminds me of someone doing a casino tour. The stuff they do these days makes no sense to me. Let me lock my phone up because Maynard is afraid of cameras. okaayyy. Thankfully PJ aren't that pretentious...
Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists
So i'm assuming you liked it, yeah? I think I was the one trying to sell you on going in with an open mind in another thread. I think the sheer variety of different songs in his shows is what gets me. I think PJ have played 150+ different songs since 2022, and Billy has played 500+ different songs since that time. Sure, most are covers so its apples to oranges really. While PJ's variety seems to diminish, Billy's has filled that void for me. I still pay to see PJ every year though, in hopes I do eventually get some songs I've been chasing.
As far as a set break, I think it could *maybe* improv the way PJ goes about their sets and offer some new variety with maybe something like an acoustic or all album "set", but the way they do it now: mini break that lasts 2:00-5:00 minutes, including an Eddie rant, then some slow songs into the grand finale is uniquely PJ and has been since at least 1993. The "break" doesn't guarantee how many songs follow it.
Having a timer like Tool does is very theater-esque and reminds me of someone doing a casino tour. The stuff they do these days makes no sense to me. Let me lock my phone up because Maynard is afraid of cameras. okaayyy. Thankfully PJ aren't that pretentious...
not defending Tool or Maynard and yeah super pretentious...but I gotta admit it was kinda nice at the Sessanta Tour having a solid 2 hours of no phones. Then at the end he asked everyone to take them out and record if they wanted to.
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The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)
Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.
While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.
They already have a short break at the end of the first set for them to hit the bathroom and grab a drink.
Sure. I think what @HailHailVitalogy was proposing was an earlier, longer break to replace the later, shorter "encore" break -- as a way to prolong the night into two long sets. Lots of bands have done this before but it's primarily in "jam band" type circles. I think it's a cool concept.
Speaking of cool concepts -- I saw the Sessanta concert last year in Raleigh. James Maynard Keenan's 60th birthday party with Primus, Perfect Circle and Puscifer. Not really a fan of any of the bands but the setup was very cool -- all three lines were on the stage at the same time. Primus would play three songs and then go sit on the couch or play ping pong (still on stage) while perfect circle played three, etc. It felt more natural than the traditional "opener(s) then main act" rock concert format -- felt like we were all just hanging out and the bands would take turns doing these little short three song sets.
Would love to see some more creative format tours like that.
Sting did the intertwined show with Peter Gabriel about six years ago that was similar to the Maynard birthday show. No ping pong though, that’s cool.
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While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.
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It is hard to say anything bad about DMB. They take care of their fans and play a ton of live shows. The only critique I have is that the live shows get boring after about 60 mins. It's like the energizer bunny, they keep going and going without any direction. I do respect them as a live band.
Soul Coughing last year introduced “the fake last song before a middle song and then the real last song”
As Charles Barkley said, "Father Time is undefeated".
I saw this Sturgill tour - he and his band are absolute animals. Peak performance.
Speaking of cool concepts -- I saw the Sessanta concert last year in Raleigh. James Maynard Keenan's 60th birthday party with Primus, Perfect Circle and Puscifer. Not really a fan of any of the bands but the setup was very cool -- all three lines were on the stage at the same time. Primus would play three songs and then go sit on the couch or play ping pong (still on stage) while perfect circle played three, etc. It felt more natural than the traditional "opener(s) then main act" rock concert format -- felt like we were all just hanging out and the bands would take turns doing these little short three song sets.
Would love to see some more creative format tours like that.
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I don't think the band is going back to 30+ song nights; I would love to be wrong, but I don't see it happening.
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As far as a set break, I think it could *maybe* improv the way PJ goes about their sets and offer some new variety with maybe something like an acoustic or all album "set", but the way they do it now: mini break that lasts 2:00-5:00 minutes, including an Eddie rant, then some slow songs into the grand finale is uniquely PJ and has been since at least 1993. The "break" doesn't guarantee how many songs follow it.
Having a timer like Tool does is very theater-esque and reminds me of someone doing a casino tour. The stuff they do these days makes no sense to me. Let me lock my phone up because Maynard is afraid of cameras. okaayyy. Thankfully PJ aren't that pretentious...
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