Do you ever ask yourself, "Who are the 15,000 people in each of these cities that pay $100 to see artist ABC?"
To each their own, but Lenny Kravitz had a few hits 25 years ago. Cool, how is this still an arena act? There are 15000 people in St. Louis paying $100 to see him? Seriously?
I should get back to work.
The average music listener only knows or remembers a couple of songs by any artist, and knows very little music from artists that came around after they turned 25. So if you were 13 in 1991, you came of age knowing and liking a half-dozen Lenny Kravitz songs from the '90s, and now you're a middle-aged person who wishes they were still in their teens, before the world came calling and everything started to suck, and you try to relive that by leaving the house to go see Lenny Kravitz play those six songs. You know, from when music was music before the kids ruined everything with their AutoTune and EDM, etc.
There are plenty of people who go to Pearl Jam shows who have the same mindset, by the way. Sure, Pearl Jam was bigger than Lenny Kravitz was, but he was big enough.
The thing about Kravitz that always strikes me is that he seems to belong to the small club of artists that institutions love to turn to when it's time for award shows, Grammy tributes, Rock Hall induction ceremonies, etc. Kravitz, H.E.R., John Legend and Dave Grohl all come to mind. I swear H.E.R. has been trotted out to play more national anthems than any artist in recent memory. From her anthem profile, you'd think she was one of the biggest stars of our time.
Someone traveling from another country (which is exactly the person travel advisories are aimed at) likely going to a major city where there are undoubtedly people who will see them as potential victims -- this isn't conjecture it's demonstrably true. You hand waving over this and assuming someone living in suburbia has the same probability of being a victim as somebody visiting LA or NYC or Atlanta etc is just head-in-sand BS.
Cities are a lot safer than you think they are (and New York, in particular, is one of the safest major cities in the U.S.-- it has a giant police force of 40,000, for one thing; L.A., which is also safer than you think it is, has half the population New York has and 10,000 cops).
And rural areas are a lot less safe than you think they are. You can look up data on all of this. I'll just give you this, for context about safety today in New York:
It is an unfortunate phenomenon in our society that, even as
crime has generally steadily declined over the past 30 years, large numbers of
people have consistently believed that crime rates are increasing or at
all-time highs. There are at least a couple of reasons for this.
One reason is the sensationalistic and disproportionate coverage of crime on
local television news and, in New York’s case, by the tabloid newspapers.
Another reason is that it is very easy for politicians to exploit people’s fear
of crime to get them to vote. Scaring suburban voters about purportedly
out-of-control crime in Democratic-controlled cities has been a linchpin
strategy of Republican politicians for decades. Even here in L.A.,
recent mayoral candidate Rick Caruso said in a debate that “everyone in L.A.
is scared to leave the house” because of crime. It was an absurd claim-- especially since he had people walking around in L.A. neighborhoods canvassing for him-- but there are a lot of people for whom hearing that from a would-be leader
reinforces their belief that crime actually is historically high when it’s
actually historically low.
Someone traveling from another country (which is exactly the person travel advisories are aimed at) likely going to a major city where there are undoubtedly people who will see them as potential victims -- this isn't conjecture it's demonstrably true. You hand waving over this and assuming someone living in suburbia has the same probability of being a victim as somebody visiting LA or NYC or Atlanta etc is just head-in-sand BS.
Cities are a lot safer than you think they are (and New York, in particular, is one of the safest major cities in the U.S.-- it has a giant police force of 40,000, for one thing; L.A., which is also safer than you think it is, has half the population New York has and 10,000 cops).
And rural areas are a lot less safe than you think they are. You can look up data on all of this. I'll just give you this, for context about safety today in New York:
It is an unfortunate phenomenon in our society that, even as
crime has generally steadily declined over the past 30 years, large numbers of
people have consistently believed that crime rates are increasing or at
all-time highs. There are at least a couple of reasons for this.
One reason is the sensationalistic and disproportionate coverage of crime on
local television news and, in New York’s case, by the tabloid newspapers.
Another reason is that it is very easy for politicians to exploit people’s fear
of crime to get them to vote. Scaring suburban voters about purportedly
out-of-control crime in Democratic-controlled cities has been a linchpin
strategy of Republican politicians for decades. Even here in L.A.,
recent mayoral candidate Rick Caruso said in a debate that “everyone in L.A.
is scared to leave the house” because of crime. It was an absurd claim-- especially since he had people walking around in L.A. neighborhoods canvassing for him-- but there are a lot of people for whom hearing that from a would-be leader
reinforces their belief that crime actually is historically high when it’s
actually historically low.
I just want to be able to buy deodorant at the store without having to call an attendant to unlock it.
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x2
2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
May shows would have been announced by now. There is a trend for shows to be announced farther out. TM gets to hold your money and earn interest on it. Are the current shows all sold out?
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x2
I don’t know the significance of this pic but the dog is awesome!
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x2
The Gorge would be tempting for me to fly cross country.
May shows would have been announced by now. There is a trend for shows to be announced farther out. TM gets to hold your money and earn interest on it. Are the current shows all sold out?
Well there is always hold back so technically no but only the PIT dates have nothing on sale right now. In terms of availability only FL1 and FL2 have a lot of seats open. Most think Ral N2 will have the most seats dumped later. NASH and ATL with have them too but much less especially for the second ATL. Compared to last year availability seems tighter for the same period but they are coming to three markets (FL, GA and NC) that they haven’t been to in years. I think that might be a trend for future dates.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x2
I just want to be able to buy deodorant at the store without having to call an attendant to unlock it.
I grew up in New York City at the height of its crime in the 1980s and 1990s. I rode the subway to high school an hour each way from 1989 to 1993. I saw a guy light his own foot on fire on the 4 train. My brother was assaulted on our front stoop. My family home was robbed while I was at home asleep upstairs. I scared the burglars away, but not before they took our computer and video camera. Somehow, I don't pine for those days despite the fact that toiletries were easily accessible at the store. I guess I have a different perspective on this.
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x2
The Gorge would be tempting for me to fly cross country.
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x2
Im Meatloaf’s singing voice…..ONE out of 8……aint bad
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x2
Im Meatloaf’s singing voice…..ONE out of 8……aint bad
Montreal is 1st out of 8 on that list
can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
If anything is happening in August/ September. We should hear something by late April, i would think 🤔
Formal 2023 fall tour announcement was made mid-April, no?
Announcement was April 20th , we received our first hint on April 1st .
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2 2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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There are plenty of people who go to Pearl Jam shows who have the same mindset, by the way. Sure, Pearl Jam was bigger than Lenny Kravitz was, but he was big enough.
The thing about Kravitz that always strikes me is that he seems to belong to the small club of artists that institutions love to turn to when it's time for award shows, Grammy tributes, Rock Hall induction ceremonies, etc. Kravitz, H.E.R., John Legend and Dave Grohl all come to mind. I swear H.E.R. has been trotted out to play more national anthems than any artist in recent memory. From her anthem profile, you'd think she was one of the biggest stars of our time.
And rural areas are a lot less safe than you think they are. You can look up data on all of this. I'll just give you this, for context about safety today in New York:
Murders, 1990: 2,262
Murders, 2021: 488
DECLINE: 78.4 percent
Rapes, 1990: 3,126
Rapes, 2021: 1,491
DECLINE: 52.3 percent
Robberies, 1990: 100,280
Robberies, 2021: 13,831
DECLINE: 86.2 percent
Felony Assaults, 1990: 44,122
Felony Assaults, 2021: 22,835
DECLINE: 48.2 percent
Burglaries, 1990: 122,055
Burglaries, 2021: 12,811
DECLINE: 89.5 percent
Grand Larcenies, 1990: 108,487
Grand Larcenies, 2021: 40,870
DECLINE: 62.3 percent
Grand Larcenies, Auto, 1990: 146,925
Grand Larcenies, Auto, 2021: 10,415
DECLINE: 92.9 percent
Source: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf
If you want to look at other, less serious crimes, you’ll see the same phenomenon looking back to the year 2000. See https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/historical-crime-data/non-seven-major-felony-offenses-2000-2021.pdf.
It is an unfortunate phenomenon in our society that, even as crime has generally steadily declined over the past 30 years, large numbers of people have consistently believed that crime rates are increasing or at all-time highs. There are at least a couple of reasons for this. One reason is the sensationalistic and disproportionate coverage of crime on local television news and, in New York’s case, by the tabloid newspapers. Another reason is that it is very easy for politicians to exploit people’s fear of crime to get them to vote. Scaring suburban voters about purportedly out-of-control crime in Democratic-controlled cities has been a linchpin strategy of Republican politicians for decades. Even here in L.A., recent mayoral candidate Rick Caruso said in a debate that “everyone in L.A. is scared to leave the house” because of crime. It was an absurd claim-- especially since he had people walking around in L.A. neighborhoods canvassing for him-- but there are a lot of people for whom hearing that from a would-be leader reinforces their belief that crime actually is historically high when it’s actually historically low.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
So maybe before that?
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????