The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • Williston
    Williston Minnesota Posts: 118
    If they do 5 or 10 show Sphere, will they put a limit on number of nights one member can win through lottery?
    100%. I’m assuming 1 show will be max. Anything more you would have to go thru that Ticketmaster madness.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,901
    edited June 2024
    Williston said:
    Might be in the minority here but a PJ stint in the sphere would be super lame IMO... I go to PJ shows for the music, not so much the visuals I saw clips from the dead and co concerts and it looked corny as hell. We get it, you're a psychedelic rock band.
    Seen U2 there twice and Dead & Co. once, and as cool as the screen is, the thing that impressed me more than anything is The Sound. I would see a PJ Sphere show just for the sound experience alone.

    Yah, the sound for U2 was the best i'd ever heard at a live concert.   There's something to be said for a venue that was made for live music.  It was so crystal clear and amazing.   I googled it after, there's something like thousands and thousands of speakers built behind the screens that create the sound.  So much better than Arena's where they bring in giant speaker stacks to venues designed for sports.

    The stage setup itself was one of the simplest I'd ever seen, because the stage was a replica of a record player, with the instruments, and 4 light stands around it, and that was it.  Everything else is built into the venue.   It's a damn technological marvel :)
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Zod said:
    Williston said:
    Might be in the minority here but a PJ stint in the sphere would be super lame IMO... I go to PJ shows for the music, not so much the visuals I saw clips from the dead and co concerts and it looked corny as hell. We get it, you're a psychedelic rock band.
    Seen U2 there twice and Dead & Co. once, and as cool as the screen is, the thing that impressed me more than anything is The Sound. I would see a PJ Sphere show just for the sound experience alone.

    Yah, the sound for U2 was the best i'd ever heard at a live concert.   There's something to be said for a venue that was made for live music.  It was so crystal clear and amazing.   I googled it after, there's something like thousands and thousands of speakers built behind the screens that create the sound.  So much better than Arena's where they bring in giant speaker stacks to venues designed for sports.

    The stage setup itself was one of the simplest I'd ever seen, because the stage was a replica of a record player, with the instruments, and 4 light stands around it, and that was it.  Everything else is built into the venue.   It's a damn technological marvel :)
    A friend and fellow Ten Club member who puts on live events at a theater in L.A. has been to the "mini-Sphere" in Burbank, which is basically a staging facility where they program and test out things for the Vegas Sphere, said that the sound is optimized to a fare thee well, and directed with incredible precision. They could make it so that, in one seat, you hear only the guitar, and in the next seat over, you hear only the drums. He said the demonstrations they did for him of the system's capability completely blew his mind.

    Having said that, I hope they don't play there.  =)
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,322
    We can write off September 20 through October 19 for the Sphere:



    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    100 Pacer said:
    We can write off September 20 through October 19 for the Sphere:



    This was meant to be. Eagles, a band with no article, plays Sphere, a venue with no article.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,879
    BF25394 said:
    MikeDigs said:
    JimmyV said:
    I strongly suspect there weren't many U.S. shows planned for next year anyway. The Sphere would likely be a bonus, not something that prevented them from playing elsewhere. 
    I think this is true and agree.  The Sphere would be a bonus, and also a Pearl Jam Day (Week) type concert.


    Jimmy is making my point for me. A 34 show tour to promote a new album is tiny by most standards, as they are apparently not hitting the road much next year. There are only so many cards left in their touring deck. To those jumping on planes anyway to see shows, a Vegas residency is no big deal, to those hoping they get  shows in their hometown, perhaps it is. Sphere is more about practicing what you preach. We are asked to recycle, turn down the AC, turn off the lights, whatever tiny impact one individual might have, but people who impact 18,000 per day don’t have influence.

    It’s hysterical the “liberal” music industry is going crazy for this place…They’re going to start building these Dolan bubbles everywhere, transforming a once local concert industry to one that involves a jet fuel. That’s impact. And the bands on stage are laughably teeny tiny, they should just use holograms and let the musicians stay home.
    You keep making this point about jet fuel, so I'll repeat: fans who are traveling to Las Vegas to see shows at Sphere are traveling on commercial airplanes that would be flying there anyway.


    So the 600,000 d and c fans traveling to LV this year does not burn significant fuel?


    Cmon, let’s stop with the loyalist fan comments and talk common sense. The sphere literally turns a local event (many by train into the local city)  into a transcontinental flight for hundreds of thousands. It’s an inescapable fact this would be the single biggest impact an artist can have on the climate in their lives. The fact is, this burns a ton of fuel. So airlines putting weight limits on luggage is just for fun?

     Plus the cost of everything consumed needs to be transported into a desert. Perhaps there is a reason landlocked deserts are not typically tourist destinations. Also, more customers means fewer flights?


  • mikesbri
    mikesbri Toronto Posts: 1,010
    I hope they don’t do the Sphere. 

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    I'd love to see some South American shows but id find it hard for them to charge todays ticket prices in those countries. Flying to those countries isnt cheap either, but still wishing for some Bogota shows.
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  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    edited June 2024
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 3-4 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    Post edited by MikeDigs on
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,017
    MikeDigs said:
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    I would love this to become a yearly thing.  If you're going to play shorter sets, less variety, and fewer cities, then give us just one thing that we can look forward to as the diehard fans. 
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    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
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    2015: New York City
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,322
    MikeDigs said:
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    BF25394 said:
    MikeDigs said:
    JimmyV said:
    I strongly suspect there weren't many U.S. shows planned for next year anyway. The Sphere would likely be a bonus, not something that prevented them from playing elsewhere. 
    I think this is true and agree.  The Sphere would be a bonus, and also a Pearl Jam Day (Week) type concert.


    Jimmy is making my point for me. A 34 show tour to promote a new album is tiny by most standards, as they are apparently not hitting the road much next year. There are only so many cards left in their touring deck. To those jumping on planes anyway to see shows, a Vegas residency is no big deal, to those hoping they get  shows in their hometown, perhaps it is. Sphere is more about practicing what you preach. We are asked to recycle, turn down the AC, turn off the lights, whatever tiny impact one individual might have, but people who impact 18,000 per day don’t have influence.

    It’s hysterical the “liberal” music industry is going crazy for this place…They’re going to start building these Dolan bubbles everywhere, transforming a once local concert industry to one that involves a jet fuel. That’s impact. And the bands on stage are laughably teeny tiny, they should just use holograms and let the musicians stay home.
    You keep making this point about jet fuel, so I'll repeat: fans who are traveling to Las Vegas to see shows at Sphere are traveling on commercial airplanes that would be flying there anyway.


    So the 600,000 d and c fans traveling to LV this year does not burn significant fuel?


    Cmon, let’s stop with the loyalist fan comments and talk common sense. The sphere literally turns a local event (many by train into the local city)  into a transcontinental flight for hundreds of thousands. It’s an inescapable fact this would be the single biggest impact an artist can have on the climate in their lives. The fact is, this burns a ton of fuel. So airlines putting weight limits on luggage is just for fun?

     Plus the cost of everything consumed needs to be transported into a desert. Perhaps there is a reason landlocked deserts are not typically tourist destinations. Also, more customers means fewer flights?


    You're still missing the point, which is a common-sense point: they're not burning fuel that wouldn't otherwise be burned anyway. The flights to Las Vegas that people book to see Dead & Company or U2 or Theoretical Pearl Jam are not new flights being added to accommodate them. They are already-scheduled flights that would be taking off regardless of whether these people are on them. There are more than 1,000 commercial flights in and out of Vegas every day. They don't need to add flights to accommodate these music fans. Do you think that someone at Southwest or Delta takes the schedule for Sphere into account when they lay out the flight schedule, something that is done many months in advance?

    Las Vegas is a metropolitan area with over 2 million people. It exists. You seem to be fighting against reality. Landlocked deserts are not typically tourist destinations? Well, this one is and has been for many decades. You can't wish it out of existence, and whether Pearl Jam or any other act plays Sphere is not going to cause the city to be packed up and moved elsewhere.

    "Loyalist fan comments"? I don't even want them to play Sphere. I'm just pointing out that your ecological arguments against it don't make sense.
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  • MikeDigs
    MikeDigs Santa Monica, CA Posts: 1,680
    100 Pacer said:
    MikeDigs said:
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 3-4 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.
    Good point, thanks for bringing my expectations in check.  I updated my post to say 3-4, where even 3 shows would be fantastic, and 4 a bonus.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,322
    MikeDigs said:
    100 Pacer said:
    MikeDigs said:
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 3-4 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.
    Good point, thanks for bringing my expectations in check.  I updated my post to say 3-4, where even 3 shows would be fantastic, and 4 a bonus.
    I actually think the day off between shows has worked out nicely for band and fans alike. I’d go so far as to state Matt’s drumming was harder hitting during this year’s tour than last.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    100 Pacer said:
    MikeDigs said:
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.
    I think there's a difference between 4-5 shows in A week vs. 4-5 shows PER week
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,322
    pjl44 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    MikeDigs said:
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.
    I think there's a difference between 4-5 shows in A week vs. 4-5 shows PER week
    True but neither scenario is happening.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • schaefferlax
    schaefferlax Posts: 467
    If PJ does stint at the Sphere I think they are officially phoning it in. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    100 Pacer said:
    pjl44 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    MikeDigs said:
    A large portion of this thread is discussion about the Sphere.  If we do get some Sphere shows, I think that will be cool, since it will be a reason to visit Vegas, plus the idea of album shows each night is really intriguing to me.  Sign me up for the No Code show.

    But for 2025 what I REALLY want, what YOU really want, is Pearl Jam Week 2025.
    Location up in the air, but the important thing is that it would be 4-5 shows in one week.
    The setlists would be expansive, including fan favorites, deep cuts, rare gems, and possibly new songs.
    You’re not getting 4-5 shows per week.
    I think there's a difference between 4-5 shows in A week vs. 4-5 shows PER week
    True but neither scenario is happening.
    Safe bet. Other than Sphere, of course.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    If PJ does stint at the Sphere I think they are officially phoning it in. 
    Why is that phoning it in? 
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    If PJ does stint at the Sphere I think they are officially phoning it in. 
    Your use of the word "officially" here suggests that you think that there's some real probability that they are currently, unofficially "phoning it in." Is that what you think?
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