So are there going to be a flood of tickets come to the market when scalpers realize bot tickets can't be transferred?
They are transferring them. All those tickets being sold on Stubhub or SeatGeek, etc are being transferred and everyone buying are feeding the scalpers who are using software to do wallet transfers.
But the ability to transfer them to date may have required using the barcode from the original ticket and putting it in a transferable format. Since there's no longer a barcode . . .
Just grabbed Sec C Row 4 on the center aisle for LA2. If anyone here dropped, thanks!
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PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Dug out an old android. Is this what typically has shown up? Not sure if this would prevent splitting a pair across two Google accounts or if it would permanently link this TM account to this Google account as opposed to just for this ticket
Yup, that's the way it's been for a while. You click add pass and it adds it to the google wallet on the device. I've used this to put clients on my wife's TM account on my google wallet, and on Saturday I put tickets I had on my friends phone using it. I was still able to download my Monday tickets onto my own phone, after having put tickets on my friends phone on Saturday.
Not sure if anroid changed over the past few days, but this has been a pretty exploitable loophole for a while.
And with respect it’s being discussed so openly that it’s just a matter of time before the band instructs Ticketmaster to shut down this as well.
I mean, I don't know if it's a good or bad thing. I think it's neutral in my case. I could of found another way to get my friends into the PJ show. Hey they just released side stage tickets, go get them now kind of thing.
I tend to lean on the, anything that can be tightened up to prevent reselling, I'm all for it. Even if it makes life slightly more difficult, or I have to eat a pair once in a blue moon.
I did notice my Google Wallet, has the icon for tapping now, so I wonder if the days of the bar code in the Google wallet are numbered.
So are there going to be a flood of tickets come to the market when scalpers realize bot tickets can't be transferred?
They are transferring them. All those tickets being sold on Stubhub or SeatGeek, etc are being transferred and everyone buying are feeding the scalpers who are using software to do wallet transfers.
But the ability to transfer them to date may have required using the barcode from the original ticket and putting it in a transferable format. Since there's no longer a barcode . . .
Is that how the loophole works? I knew somehow they could get the barcode to a buyer, but my brain thought it was something like relaying screen via a 3rd party website or something.
I think there's still technically a bar code. The Google Wallet still has a bar code in it, but I am seeing an icon for tapping, so maybe it's days are numbered.
So are there going to be a flood of tickets come to the market when scalpers realize bot tickets can't be transferred?
They are transferring them. All those tickets being sold on Stubhub or SeatGeek, etc are being transferred and everyone buying are feeding the scalpers who are using software to do wallet transfers.
But the ability to transfer them to date may have required using the barcode from the original ticket and putting it in a transferable format. Since there's no longer a barcode . . .
Is that how the loophole works? I knew somehow they could get the barcode to a buyer, but my brain thought it was something like relaying screen via a 3rd party website or something.
I think there's still technically a bar code. The Google Wallet still has a bar code in it, but I am seeing an icon for tapping, so maybe it's days are numbered.
I'm not sure exactly how it works. The website makes sense too. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I just think its pretty ridiculous that there is so much uncertainty with how Portland is going to work and 10C and TM are not saying a thing on the matter.
They know plenty of people are going to be at the door trying to get in and are likely going to be turned away.
This is a fanbase that does not understand the difference between VF presale and 10C presale lol.
Also how does GA and reserved seats work for someone that has both on their phone. In the past some venues would give the reserved seats actual tickets since they would be split up into separate entrances. Now it is looking to be even more strict with no login sharing and they are not saying a word on the matter.
Hopefully Portland is smooth for all but I just am not sure how it will be looking at it as it is 2 days out.
I have 4 tix to choose from on both Vegas shows....other 2 will go to friends, or may get put back on F2F
Which would you choose...the SCREEN plays a roll
Vegas 1 Section 10 row j or section 7 Row X Vegas 2 Section 11 row j or section 27 row u
your opinion counts
I'd split the difference: closer to side stage one night, then for the next night sacrifice proximity to the stage in order to better see the screen. FWIW, my buddy and I at N1 Vancouver were very close to your section 10 seats....these were great for seeing the band interact on stage but the visuals weren't fully experienced. For N2 were were Row 8 center section on the floor and it was a game-changer in both the ability to see the visuals which, in turn, upped the overall show experience. Good news is you have a no-lose situation....hope your enjoy the shows!
I just think its pretty ridiculous that there is so much uncertainty with how Portland is going to work and 10C and TM are not saying a thing on the matter.
They know plenty of people are going to be at the door trying to get in and are likely going to be turned away.
This is a fanbase that does not understand the difference between VF presale and 10C presale lol.
Also how does GA and reserved seats work for someone that has both on their phone. In the past some venues would give the reserved seats actual tickets since they would be split up into separate entrances. Now it is looking to be even more strict with no login sharing and they are not saying a word on the matter.
Hopefully Portland is smooth for all but I just am not sure how it will be looking at it as it is 2 days out.
Yeah, 10C even said this would be the case in 2022. But I tried last year, and it was a no-go. They said I would have to wait in line with my GA friends and have the tickets scanned for them to get their wristbands, then go get in the reserved line after they got in.
I just think its pretty ridiculous that there is so much uncertainty with how Portland is going to work and 10C and TM are not saying a thing on the matter.
They know plenty of people are going to be at the door trying to get in and are likely going to be turned away.
This is a fanbase that does not understand the difference between VF presale and 10C presale lol.
Also how does GA and reserved seats work for someone that has both on their phone. In the past some venues would give the reserved seats actual tickets since they would be split up into separate entrances. Now it is looking to be even more strict with no login sharing and they are not saying a word on the matter.
Hopefully Portland is smooth for all but I just am not sure how it will be looking at it as it is 2 days out.
Yeah, 10C even said this would be the case in 2022. But I tried last year, and it was a no-go. They said I would have to wait in line with my GA friends and have the tickets scanned for them to get their wristbands, then go get in the reserved line after they got in.
how would that work, if the GA owner is already in the venue, the seated person would need to be inside as well, they could not get scanned and then access another line... .I would think that early entry with GA and seats would be an issue. Probably what they would do, is give you the wristband, then you would have to go with your seated friend to an all access entry point.. You would not get a great spot in the GA that way.
Dug out an old android. Is this what typically has shown up? Not sure if this would prevent splitting a pair across two Google accounts or if it would permanently link this TM account to this Google account as opposed to just for this ticket
Yup, that's the way it's been for a while. You click add pass and it adds it to the google wallet on the device. I've used this to put clients on my wife's TM account on my google wallet, and on Saturday I put tickets I had on my friends phone using it. I was still able to download my Monday tickets onto my own phone, after having put tickets on my friends phone on Saturday.
Not sure if anroid changed over the past few days, but this has been a pretty exploitable loophole for a while.
This feels slightly promising if folks can get their hands on an Android, right?
I just think its pretty ridiculous that there is so much uncertainty with how Portland is going to work and 10C and TM are not saying a thing on the matter.
They know plenty of people are going to be at the door trying to get in and are likely going to be turned away.
This is a fanbase that does not understand the difference between VF presale and 10C presale lol.
Also how does GA and reserved seats work for someone that has both on their phone. In the past some venues would give the reserved seats actual tickets since they would be split up into separate entrances. Now it is looking to be even more strict with no login sharing and they are not saying a word on the matter.
Hopefully Portland is smooth for all but I just am not sure how it will be looking at it as it is 2 days out.
Yeah, 10C even said this would be the case in 2022. But I tried last year, and it was a no-go. They said I would have to wait in line with my GA friends and have the tickets scanned for them to get their wristbands, then go get in the reserved line after they got in.
how would that work, if the GA owner is already in the venue, the seated person would need to be inside as well, they could not get scanned and then access another line... .I would think that early entry with GA and seats would be an issue. Probably what they would do, is give you the wristband, then you would have to go with your seated friend to an all access entry point.. You would not get a great spot in the GA that way.
I ended up just letting them log into my account on their phone each time. But I think they were saying that I would have to escort them to the entry point and have the tickets scanned. Then they would be allowed entry, and I would have to leave. But no one at the box office, including the manager, seemed to have any idea how any of this works.
So, if some bought tickets off of StubHub, Seat Geek, , etc. might be shit out of luck on future shows?
Some who show up in Portland Friday Night might not get in?
I'm going to suggest as a few others have, if you bought on stubhub or Seatgeek, Vivid, etc and you get denied entry at the door. Log into Ticketmaster asap and buy whatever ticket you can to attend the event. You could sit on hold outside of the arena all night with stubhub if there are a bunch of issues at the door. Stubhub will refund you if you get denied entry at the door but the process isn't usually instant. If the seller is using a loop hole to transfer tickets and it doesn't work, the seller gets in trouble and the buyer gets their money back or they might try to issue you Stubhub credit instead of a refund. I would not sit on hold waiting for Stubhub to find you a replacement set of tickets..
I just think its pretty ridiculous that there is so much uncertainty with how Portland is going to work and 10C and TM are not saying a thing on the matter.
They know plenty of people are going to be at the door trying to get in and are likely going to be turned away.
This is a fanbase that does not understand the difference between VF presale and 10C presale lol.
Also how does GA and reserved seats work for someone that has both on their phone. In the past some venues would give the reserved seats actual tickets since they would be split up into separate entrances. Now it is looking to be even more strict with no login sharing and they are not saying a word on the matter.
Hopefully Portland is smooth for all but I just am not sure how it will be looking at it as it is 2 days out.
Yeah, 10C even said this would be the case in 2022. But I tried last year, and it was a no-go. They said I would have to wait in line with my GA friends and have the tickets scanned for them to get their wristbands, then go get in the reserved line after they got in.
how would that work, if the GA owner is already in the venue, the seated person would need to be inside as well, they could not get scanned and then access another line... .I would think that early entry with GA and seats would be an issue. Probably what they would do, is give you the wristband, then you would have to go with your seated friend to an all access entry point.. You would not get a great spot in the GA that way.
I ended up just letting them log into my account on their phone each time. But I think they were saying that I would have to escort them to the entry point and have the tickets scanned. Then they would be allowed entry, and I would have to leave. But no one at the box office, including the manager, seemed to have any idea how any of this works.
This is why I made the post
There are so many scenarios out there that are going to be issues at the door. A huge headache for a lot of people when all they want to do is have fun at a PJ show.
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Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
I tend to lean on the, anything that can be tightened up to prevent reselling, I'm all for it. Even if it makes life slightly more difficult, or I have to eat a pair once in a blue moon.
I did notice my Google Wallet, has the icon for tapping now, so I wonder if the days of the bar code in the Google wallet are numbered.
I think there's still technically a bar code. The Google Wallet still has a bar code in it, but I am seeing an icon for tapping, so maybe it's days are numbered.
I have 4 tix to choose from on both Vegas shows....other 2 will go to friends, or may get put back on F2F
Which would you choose...the SCREEN plays a roll
Vegas 1 Section 10 row j or section 7 Row X
Vegas 2 Section 11 row j or section 27 row u
your opinion counts
They know plenty of people are going to be at the door trying to get in and are likely going to be turned away.
This is a fanbase that does not understand the difference between VF presale and 10C presale lol.
Also how does GA and reserved seats work for someone that has both on their phone. In the past some venues would give the reserved seats actual tickets since they would be split up into separate entrances. Now it is looking to be even more strict with no login sharing and they are not saying a word on the matter.
Hopefully Portland is smooth for all but I just am not sure how it will be looking at it as it is 2 days out.
2006: Washington, D.C.
2008: Washington, D.C.
2010: Bristow, VA
2013: Baltimore, MD
2016: Hampton, VA
2020: Baltimore, MD
2023: Noblesville, IN TBD
So, if some bought tickets off of StubHub, Seat Geek, , etc. might be shit out of luck on future shows?
Some who show up in Portland Friday Night might not get in?
There are so many scenarios out there that are going to be issues at the door. A huge headache for a lot of people when all they want to do is have fun at a PJ show.
East Troy 2003
Chicago x2, Summerfest x2, 2006
Chicago THE VIC, Lollapalooza, 2007
bonnaROOOOOOO 2008
Chicago x2 2009
(EV chicago 2008 night 2)
East Troy 2003
Chicago x2, Summerfest x2, 2006
Chicago THE VIC, Lollapalooza, 2007
bonnaROOOOOOO 2008
Chicago x2 2009
(EV chicago 2008 night 2)