Fan To Fan

TA243471

Meaning that anyone that wants to see the show in Vegas can do it right now. People holding on to really good tickets will still be able to count on theirs selling, but not much incentive to take a chance on having to eat tickets, especially 4 or 5 weeks out from the shows.

BigRedd

If the scalpers were not automatically snatching up the lower pairs then we would def have seen some hanging around longer for these shows at this point. Its making the shows seem more in demand than they really are. At lot of the fan to fan vets would have had multiple wins so far and they would be looking to upgrade leaving the further back seats to the others to have at. 

Houryo

Hollywoodbwa said:

Are we sure it's bots? I got tickets. Can there be that many burner accounts?

Yes you can get tickets, but there has been little to no shared success for the best seats in the house.

PhartN

BigRedd said:

If the scalpers were not automatically snatching up the lower pairs then we would def have seen some hanging around longer for these shows at this point. Its making the shows seem more in demand than they really are. At lot of the fan to fan vets would have had multiple wins so far and they would be looking to upgrade leaving the further back seats to the others to have at. 

I think you are agreeing with my line of thinking, just a little differently? lol...

LS164963

Except for maybe Seattle the rest of west coast shows will see a lot of action a week or so before the actual show date. We just need to be patient and wait it out and stay off those premium tickets if they sit there untouched a few days before the show they will come down in price (likely face value). Last tour St Paul had a ton of tickets really close to the stage that became available a few days before the show. There's also lots of us with spares hoping to trade for other shows we want, if we can't find trades these spares will be available later. I know it's hard planning travel without tickets but patience is key. It will all work out in the end.

BigRedd

PhartN said:

BigRedd said:

If the scalpers were not automatically snatching up the lower pairs then we would def have seen some hanging around longer for these shows at this point. Its making the shows seem more in demand than they really are. At lot of the fan to fan vets would have had multiple wins so far and they would be looking to upgrade leaving the further back seats to the others to have at. 

I think you are agreeing with my line of thinking, just a little differently? lol...

I think it is smart to get rid of tickets right now to make sure you get paid for some cities and shows.

 If you want to be a nice fan and time something really good late at night with another fan then that would obviously better your odds or at least it did. 


I have yet to see someone that is good at fan to fan do a timed drop with a good ticket. Until that happens and they swing and miss I am not certain it is automated just yet. 

washed in black

TA243471 said:

PhartN said:

SHZA said:

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PhartN said:

jwhjr17 said:

PhartN said:

Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(

And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.

There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.

I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 

I dont either, i get it, just frustrated that this is where we are and hoping that we can all collectively take a step back in the name of 10C membership if possible and wait out the BS so that we can all help each other...thats all...everyone has their reasons and needs...but would be cool if folks could take a breath and sit tight for the benefit of those that dont have tix/wiffed on all the pre-sales (of all people, i thought youd agree with this, lol)

I think the premise that the bots will just give up at some point is questionable. Unless there's a glut of prime seats just sitting at face value, why would they stop? And if that does happen, then the people who you asked to wait to help you out might get stuck. Are you going to reimburse them? As long as the demand is there, I don't see them stopping at least until very close to show day. Even then, I still think they'd be on the hunt for GAs to flip until the last minute. 

Perhaps, but if the bots dont stop, then there would be no reason to think you would get stuck with tickets, so whats the harm in waiting a bit in the event it gets "better" for non-bots...some of us arent even in the building to flip!!! yet....also dont think the demand for any lower level or floor/ga seats will drop...

Because we don't know one way or the other what will happen. From the seller's perspective, why take the chance? Granted, for MSG and Philly, the risk is low. Sacramento on a weekday? Different story 

Id argue LV, Bmore, SEA are also fairly hot tickets too (from what we have seen), and would be hard to think you wouldnt be able to F2f those up to show day...Its certainly a chance, but not a huge one IMO, at least for the shows we are talking about, also considering we have month(s) till showtimes for ...anyway, just was thinking about it, thought worth a mention and discussion...

There are 20 pairs of f2f tickets available between the 2 LV shows available right now.

I check many times daily, but am being a bit of a ticket snob. If we do end up going to Vegas, I want lowers or front row uppers near the stage. I saw a handful of F2F lowers sell on day 1, almost pulled the trigger on a pair, but we are still not 100% certain if we will go.

I also check for Philly, would like to upgrade our seats as they are back of floor and I'm barely 5'2". But, there's plenty of time to do so. I did try to snag a pair of GAs for N2 on the day F2F opened, but wasn't fast enough.

PhartN

BigRedd said:

PhartN said:

BigRedd said:

If the scalpers were not automatically snatching up the lower pairs then we would def have seen some hanging around longer for these shows at this point. Its making the shows seem more in demand than they really are. At lot of the fan to fan vets would have had multiple wins so far and they would be looking to upgrade leaving the further back seats to the others to have at. 

I think you are agreeing with my line of thinking, just a little differently? lol...

I think it is smart to get rid of tickets right now to make sure you get paid for some cities and shows.

 If you want to be a nice fan and time something really good late at night with another fan then that would obviously better your odds or at least it did. 


I have yet to see someone that is good at fan to fan do a timed drop with a good ticket. Until that happens and they swing and miss I am not certain it is automated just yet. 

There was a timed drop for some OK tix in bmore the other night that got sniped...plenty of other examples with some convincing evidence of other misses that ended up on reseller sites...

also "some cities and shows", agree, im talking about those shows we all know are hot AF.

Did you win a F2F timed drop?

TA243471

washed in black said:

TA243471 said:

PhartN said:

SHZA said:

PhartN said:

SHZA said:

PhartN said:

SHZA said:

PhartN said:

jwhjr17 said:

PhartN said:

Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(

And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.

There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.

I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 

I dont either, i get it, just frustrated that this is where we are and hoping that we can all collectively take a step back in the name of 10C membership if possible and wait out the BS so that we can all help each other...thats all...everyone has their reasons and needs...but would be cool if folks could take a breath and sit tight for the benefit of those that dont have tix/wiffed on all the pre-sales (of all people, i thought youd agree with this, lol)

I think the premise that the bots will just give up at some point is questionable. Unless there's a glut of prime seats just sitting at face value, why would they stop? And if that does happen, then the people who you asked to wait to help you out might get stuck. Are you going to reimburse them? As long as the demand is there, I don't see them stopping at least until very close to show day. Even then, I still think they'd be on the hunt for GAs to flip until the last minute. 

Perhaps, but if the bots dont stop, then there would be no reason to think you would get stuck with tickets, so whats the harm in waiting a bit in the event it gets "better" for non-bots...some of us arent even in the building to flip!!! yet....also dont think the demand for any lower level or floor/ga seats will drop...

Because we don't know one way or the other what will happen. From the seller's perspective, why take the chance? Granted, for MSG and Philly, the risk is low. Sacramento on a weekday? Different story 

Id argue LV, Bmore, SEA are also fairly hot tickets too (from what we have seen), and would be hard to think you wouldnt be able to F2f those up to show day...Its certainly a chance, but not a huge one IMO, at least for the shows we are talking about, also considering we have month(s) till showtimes for ...anyway, just was thinking about it, thought worth a mention and discussion...

There are 20 pairs of f2f tickets available between the 2 LV shows available right now.

I check many times daily, but am being a bit of a ticket snob. If we do end up going to Vegas, I want lowers or front row uppers near the stage. I saw a handful of F2F lowers sell on day 1, almost pulled the trigger on a pair, but we are still not 100% certain if we will go.

I also check for Philly, would like to upgrade our seats as they are back of floor and I'm barely 5'2". But, there's plenty of time to do so. I did try to snag a pair of GAs for N2 on the day F2F opened, but wasn't fast enough.

Right.  Seems like there is no reason not to be picky.  It seems like if you really want to go, there will always be an option, for Vegas at least.

Zod

I told a friend of mine who was at the back of the floor to sell his n2 Vancouver a few days back.  He was just able nab row 19 side stage.  I think that's a pretty solid upgrade.

washed in black

Zod said:

I told a friend of mine who was at the back of the floor to sell his n2 Vancouver a few days back.  He was just able nab row 19 side stage.  I think that's a pretty solid upgrade.

Absolutely. I hate back of floor. Husband won these, he let his number lapse twice in the past 20 years. He won tix that I was getting back in 2006 with my 308xxx number. I always prefer side stage or even behind the stage to back of floor.

Zod

washed in black said:

Zod said:

I told a friend of mine who was at the back of the floor to sell his n2 Vancouver a few days back.  He was just able nab row 19 side stage.  I think that's a pretty solid upgrade.

Absolutely. I hate back of floor. Husband won these, he let his number lapse twice in the past 20 years. He won tix that I was getting back in 2006 with my 308xxx number. I always prefer side stage or even behind the stage to back of floor.

Yah, I'm a bit mixed on my own tickets.  Row 4 behind the pit, and row 1 behind the pit. Row 1 would be interested to try out, but I think it's like being row 15 on a seated floor.   Which means Row 4 is closer to row 20.. which is around where I prefer to be side stage.   If I saw some amazing size stage or GA tickets pop for n1, I could see my self upgrading.  The N2's in row 1, I think I need to try those out and see what it's like.

Ryan

I had row 1 behind the pit at one of the austin shows last year.  I’m not tall (5’8”) and I liked it a lot.  There’s a bit of a gap between the GA and reserved and you have a rail to lean on so row two isn’t exactly breathing down your neck.  It proved to have reallly great sight lines and super comfortable.

washed in black

Zod said:

washed in black said:

Zod said:

I told a friend of mine who was at the back of the floor to sell his n2 Vancouver a few days back.  He was just able nab row 19 side stage.  I think that's a pretty solid upgrade.

Absolutely. I hate back of floor. Husband won these, he let his number lapse twice in the past 20 years. He won tix that I was getting back in 2006 with my 308xxx number. I always prefer side stage or even behind the stage to back of floor.

Yah, I'm a bit mixed on my own tickets.  Right 4 behind the pit, and row 1 behind the pit. Row 1 would be interested to try out, but I think it's like being row 15 on a seated floor.   Which means Row 4 is closer to row 20.. which is around where I prefer to be side stage.   If I saw some amazing size stage or GA tickets pop for n1, I could see my self upgrading.  The N2's in row 1, I think I need to try those out and see what it's like.

Row 1 will be great. With the walkway between the back of the pit and rail in front of seats, sight lines are much better. If you're tall, row 4 might be ok - it would still be terrible for me as I'm always lucky to get someone 6' tall right in front of me.

ComeToTX

I had those row 1 tix for 3 of my 4 shows last year.  It's like being in the back of the pit but you don't have to worry about people pushing you out of your spot.

Zod

That's good news. I didn't realize there was a gap between GA and row 1.   I was afraid we'd be looking at the back of heads of the people that lean against the rail at the back of the pit.   I am 6'2 though, so the people behind me will struggle   My wife barely gets to see stuff at concerts, but I often get decent views

Man.of.Golden.Words

I was FINALLY able to snag my missing link - Seattle N2 tickets. Trash seats, but all 3 of us will be able to sit together the second night & no longer need to stress - F2F is much more fun when you're upgrading, opposed to the anxiety of just trying to get in the building.

Upgrading from our 10C Vancouver tickets was very easy, done the first day. Seattle is something else. Was able to cart pairs about 20 times & only successfully checked out 1 time w/o the "U"-errors. However, 2 for 2 on singles & 1 for 1 on a set of 3 tickets.

Happy to but the phone away & just enjoy Wrestlemania this weekend

Will post here when I'm ready to get rid of our extra Seattle tix (lower pair N1, lower single N2)

PJNB

Man.of.Golden.Words said:

I was FINALLY able to snag my missing link - Seattle N2 tickets. Trash seats, but all 3 of us will be able to sit together the second night & no longer need to stress - F2F is much more fun when you're upgrading, opposed to the anxiety of just trying to get in the building.

Upgrading from our 10C Vancouver tickets was very easy, done the first day. Seattle is something else. Was able to cart pairs about 20 times & only successfully checked out 1 time w/o the "U"-errors. However, 2 for 2 on singles & 1 for 1 on a set of 3 tickets.

Happy to but the phone away & just enjoy Wrestlemania this weekend

Will post here when I'm ready to get rid of our extra Seattle tix (lower pair N1, lower single N2)

Interested in N1 when you are ready to sell. 

aisleseats

Zod said:

That's good news. I didn't realize there was a gap between GA and row 1.   I was afraid we'd be looking at the back of heads of the people that lean against the rail at the back of the pit.   I am 6'2 though, so the people behind me will struggle   My wife barely gets to see stuff at concerts, but I often get decent views

Some shows I see the people at the back of the pit claiming that rail, and others I see the row 1 people claiming it.

craigraether

aisleseats said:

Zod said:

That's good news. I didn't realize there was a gap between GA and row 1.   I was afraid we'd be looking at the back of heads of the people that lean against the rail at the back of the pit.   I am 6'2 though, so the people behind me will struggle   My wife barely gets to see stuff at concerts, but I often get decent views

Some shows I see the people at the back of the pit claiming that rail, and others I see the row 1 people claiming it.

In Aus there was rail. which row 1 claimed... then there was barricades a few feet forward of that. In that few feet is where security people were placed to keep people from jumping the wall. ~