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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    BigRedd said:
    There is a chance they can't flip those especially with fees and then closer to the show there is no guarantee they will sell. LA's market will be weak closer to the date. 

    Sure someone will try but its not a ticket that most scalpers will be looking for on the off hours. 
    That was the type of seat that people got stuck with in 2022 even at $125 
  • LS164963LS164963 Posts: 160
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    There is a chance they can't flip those especially with fees and then closer to the show there is no guarantee they will sell. LA's market will be weak closer to the date. 

    Sure someone will try but its not a ticket that most scalpers will be looking for on the off hours. 
    That was the type of seat that people got stuck with in 2022 even at $125 
    The seat dissappear for about an hour and it's now back up, very strange. In 2022 I upgraded to GA for Fresno and had to eat a seat on Stone side about 8 rows up. Had it up for sale for over 2 weeks and never sold. California market it's hit and missed, SD shows are always a hard ticket to get others not so much.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,587
    How does it work with the deposits?  I tried adding my Canadian bank account a few weeks ago, and it never sent the deposits.  Then I read they only do it once you've sold tickets (Which we sold a pair on Wednesday).  TM indicates they've sent the payment for tickets, would they do it without verifying the bank account?  Weird stuff.
  • craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,400
    edited April 5
    SHZA said:
    BigRedd said:
    There is a chance they can't flip those especially with fees and then closer to the show there is no guarantee they will sell. LA's market will be weak closer to the date. 

    Sure someone will try but its not a ticket that most scalpers will be looking for on the off hours. 
    That was the type of seat that people got stuck with in 2022 even at $125 
    in 2022, we didnt see all those uppers available at this point,... there were sporadic singles and lots of red f2f in the uppers at first, then the lowers,... day of they added 6 rows at the mix on the floor, rows of seats everywhere, and GA about every 20 min... From todays, availability 2022 looked way harder... I would not stress about PDX, SAC or LAs... just wait it out.. Only ones I would really be stressing is Eastern Arenas and Indy.. 
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,287
    Dropping a pair of Seattle 1 tix at 11am eastern. Section 211 row D on the aisle. Hope someone here gets them. 
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  • danofundanofun Posts: 1,025
    521 on the Portland GAs
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,933
    Zod said:
    How does it work with the deposits?  I tried adding my Canadian bank account a few weeks ago, and it never sent the deposits.  Then I read they only do it once you've sold tickets (Which we sold a pair on Wednesday).  TM indicates they've sent the payment for tickets, would they do it without verifying the bank account?  Weird stuff.
    It will state payment state but you’ll still a verify account deposit that you’ll need to confirm prior to receiving the payment. The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing over there.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • rberko1rberko1 Posts: 87
    JojoRice said:
    Dropping a pair of Seattle 1 tix at 11am eastern. Section 211 row D on the aisle. Hope someone here gets them. 
    Had them in my cart, checked out, and my credit card flagged it as a fraudulent transaction. What is that all about?!?

    Looks like someone else grabbed them in the meantime... 
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,587
    100 Pacer said:
    Zod said:
    How does it work with the deposits?  I tried adding my Canadian bank account a few weeks ago, and it never sent the deposits.  Then I read they only do it once you've sold tickets (Which we sold a pair on Wednesday).  TM indicates they've sent the payment for tickets, would they do it without verifying the bank account?  Weird stuff.
    It will state payment state but you’ll still a verify account deposit that you’ll need to confirm prior to receiving the payment. The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing over there.

    Is it true the deposits don't show up until several days after you sell your tickets?  IE you can't verify a bank account before hand?  TM won't attempt it unless you sell something?
  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    Why are we still feeding the bots!  Hang on to your F2F tix for a sec, there is still time, no need to rush!!  Lets wait to see how this plays out.  I think patience is key for F2F this tour.
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,933
    Zod said:
    100 Pacer said:
    Zod said:
    How does it work with the deposits?  I tried adding my Canadian bank account a few weeks ago, and it never sent the deposits.  Then I read they only do it once you've sold tickets (Which we sold a pair on Wednesday).  TM indicates they've sent the payment for tickets, would they do it without verifying the bank account?  Weird stuff.
    It will state payment state but you’ll still a verify account deposit that you’ll need to confirm prior to receiving the payment. The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing over there.

    Is it true the deposits don't show up until several days after you sell your tickets?  IE you can't verify a bank account before hand?  TM won't attempt it unless you sell something?
    Yes. After my first US sale it took 4 business days for the account verify deposits to hit my US bank account and after verifying a further 4 business days for the payment to hit. For the recent sales when F2F opened it only took 2 business days for the account verify deposits to hit (a friend used my account for his sales). Waiting on CDN sale account verify deposits as well from Monday.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    Zod said:
    100 Pacer said:
    Zod said:
    How does it work with the deposits?  I tried adding my Canadian bank account a few weeks ago, and it never sent the deposits.  Then I read they only do it once you've sold tickets (Which we sold a pair on Wednesday).  TM indicates they've sent the payment for tickets, would they do it without verifying the bank account?  Weird stuff.
    It will state payment state but you’ll still a verify account deposit that you’ll need to confirm prior to receiving the payment. The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing over there.

    Is it true the deposits don't show up until several days after you sell your tickets?  IE you can't verify a bank account before hand?  TM won't attempt it unless you sell something?
    That's what I recall. Only verify once there's money to be paid 
  • jwhjr17jwhjr17 Posts: 2,000
    PhartN said:
    Why are we still feeding the bots!  Hang on to your F2F tix for a sec, there is still time, no need to rush!!  Lets wait to see how this plays out.  I think patience is key for F2F this tour.
    The bots are there regardless of when they're being posted.  That's the point of the bots lol.  No human intervention needed.
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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    PhartN said:
    Why are we still feeding the bots!  Hang on to your F2F tix for a sec, there is still time, no need to rush!!  Lets wait to see how this plays out.  I think patience is key for F2F this tour.
    Sellers aren't all reading this thread 
  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
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  • jwhjr17jwhjr17 Posts: 2,000
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
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  • patkelly12patkelly12 Posts: 361
    The bots go to the shore after Memorial Day.
  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
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    2006: Washington, D.C.
    2008: Washington, D.C.
    2010: Bristow, VA
    2013: Baltimore, MD
    2016: Hampton, VA
    2020: Baltimore, MD
    2023: Noblesville, IN TBD
    2024: Seattle, WA N1 and N2
  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    Why are we still feeding the bots!  Hang on to your F2F tix for a sec, there is still time, no need to rush!!  Lets wait to see how this plays out.  I think patience is key for F2F this tour.
    Sellers aren't all reading this thread 
    But we all are, ands so are the ones posting "just listed tickets i klnow you all want, go see if you can get em now, hope you can get em!"  quickly followed by "had em in my cart, errored out" etc ..rinse repeat..... everyone #gutted  
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    2024: Seattle, WA N1 and N2
  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    edited April 5
    PhartN said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
    I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 
  • craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,400
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
    I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 
    I agree with Sean, unless  you have GA, or close wings, floors, ..or if you have someone who wants them for timed drop you should wait until people report higher success rate. Otherwise consider posting. the more inventory the BOTS grab at the back of the 100s is more of their resources used. Also when other bands shows start to spark interest, BOTS will move away from PJ and start where easier money is. It will also depend on how their sale are, if they see that their inventory is not moving quick, they will stop buying and move on to something else, 
  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    edited April 5
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
    I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 
    I dont either, i get it, just frustrated that this is where we are and hoping that we can all collectively take a step back in the name of 10C membership if possible and wait out the BS so that we can all help each other...thats all...everyone has their reasons and needs...but would be cool if folks could take a breath and sit tight for the benefit of those that dont have tix/wiffed on all the pre-sales (of all people, i thought youd agree with this, lol)

    That said, i think there is almost a Zero% chance people get stuck with tix unless they paid too much or they are absolute crap tix....
    Post edited by PhartN on
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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    PhartN said:
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
    I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 
    I dont either, i get it, just frustrated that this is where we are and hoping that we can all collectively take a step back in the name of 10C membership if possible and wait out the BS so that we can all help each other...thats all...everyone has their reasons and needs...but would be cool if folks could take a breath and sit tight for the benefit of those that dont have tix/wiffed on all the pre-sales (of all people, i thought youd agree with this, lol)
    I think the premise that the bots will just give up at some point is questionable. Unless there's a glut of prime seats just sitting at face value, why would they stop? And if that does happen, then the people who you asked to wait to help you out might get stuck. Are you going to reimburse them? As long as the demand is there, I don't see them stopping at least until very close to show day. Even then, I still think they'd be on the hunt for GAs to flip until the last minute. 
  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    edited April 5
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
    I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 
    I dont either, i get it, just frustrated that this is where we are and hoping that we can all collectively take a step back in the name of 10C membership if possible and wait out the BS so that we can all help each other...thats all...everyone has their reasons and needs...but would be cool if folks could take a breath and sit tight for the benefit of those that dont have tix/wiffed on all the pre-sales (of all people, i thought youd agree with this, lol)
    I think the premise that the bots will just give up at some point is questionable. Unless there's a glut of prime seats just sitting at face value, why would they stop? And if that does happen, then the people who you asked to wait to help you out might get stuck. Are you going to reimburse them? As long as the demand is there, I don't see them stopping at least until very close to show day. Even then, I still think they'd be on the hunt for GAs to flip until the last minute. 
    Perhaps, but if the bots dont stop, then there would be no reason to think you would get stuck with tickets, so whats the harm in waiting a bit in the event it gets "better" for non-bots...some of us arent even in the building to flip!!! yet....also dont think the demand for any lower level or floor/ga seats will drop...
    Post edited by PhartN on
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    posting  LA  2  floor G-now
  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    PhartN said:
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
    I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 
    I dont either, i get it, just frustrated that this is where we are and hoping that we can all collectively take a step back in the name of 10C membership if possible and wait out the BS so that we can all help each other...thats all...everyone has their reasons and needs...but would be cool if folks could take a breath and sit tight for the benefit of those that dont have tix/wiffed on all the pre-sales (of all people, i thought youd agree with this, lol)
    I think the premise that the bots will just give up at some point is questionable. Unless there's a glut of prime seats just sitting at face value, why would they stop? And if that does happen, then the people who you asked to wait to help you out might get stuck. Are you going to reimburse them? As long as the demand is there, I don't see them stopping at least until very close to show day. Even then, I still think they'd be on the hunt for GAs to flip until the last minute. 
    Perhaps, but if the bots dont stop, then there would be no reason to think you would get stuck with tickets, so whats the harm in waiting a bit in the event it gets "better" for non-bots...some of us arent even in the building to flip!!! yet....also dont think the demand for any lower level or floor/ga seats will drop...
    Because we don't know one way or the other what will happen. From the seller's perspective, why take the chance? Granted, for MSG and Philly, the risk is low. Sacramento on a weekday? Different story 
  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    SHZA said:
    PhartN said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    PhartN said:
    Im saying, if we all here have tickets we want to offload, perhaps it makes sense to wait it out a little?  Instead, people are listing tickets and then acting surprised and getting mad that they got picked up by the bots and are being listed by resellers....cutting all of us out in the process :(
    And I'm saying what does it matter if they're listed today or in a month?  The bots are there regardless.
    There has been chatter than bots could slow closer to the show dates...not sure anyone can tell the future, but we can control what we do now.
    I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to risk getting stuck with extras or just wants to get the funds sooner 
    I dont either, i get it, just frustrated that this is where we are and hoping that we can all collectively take a step back in the name of 10C membership if possible and wait out the BS so that we can all help each other...thats all...everyone has their reasons and needs...but would be cool if folks could take a breath and sit tight for the benefit of those that dont have tix/wiffed on all the pre-sales (of all people, i thought youd agree with this, lol)
    I think the premise that the bots will just give up at some point is questionable. Unless there's a glut of prime seats just sitting at face value, why would they stop? And if that does happen, then the people who you asked to wait to help you out might get stuck. Are you going to reimburse them? As long as the demand is there, I don't see them stopping at least until very close to show day. Even then, I still think they'd be on the hunt for GAs to flip until the last minute. 
    Perhaps, but if the bots dont stop, then there would be no reason to think you would get stuck with tickets, so whats the harm in waiting a bit in the event it gets "better" for non-bots...some of us arent even in the building to flip!!! yet....also dont think the demand for any lower level or floor/ga seats will drop...
    Because we don't know one way or the other what will happen. From the seller's perspective, why take the chance? Granted, for MSG and Philly, the risk is low. Sacramento on a weekday? Different story 
    Id argue LV, Bmore, SEA are also fairly hot tickets too (from what we have seen), and would be hard to think you wouldnt be able to F2f those up to show day...Its certainly a chance, but not a huge one IMO, at least for the shows we are talking about, also considering we have month(s) till showtimes for ...anyway, just was thinking about it, thought worth a mention and discussion...
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  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,287
    Bots are gonna bot. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,168
    It isn't just a tool for buyers. It is also a tool for sellers. TM is allegedly paying out after the sale and not waiting till after the show. Asking people to hold off on getting paid and run a risk their tickets won't sell at all might be asking a lot. 
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  • HollywoodbwaHollywoodbwa Posts: 66
    Are we sure it's bots? I got tickets. Can there be that many burner accounts?
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