European Tour Sales = Desaster

seanclax

JABK said:

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

Lerxst1992 said:

prl said:

seanclax said:

Barcelona night 2
the whole of the back of the arena and all 300 sections completly blacked out.
What a shitshow.
They gotta learn from this.

It was pretty sad to see that in a PJ show, actually.

That’s a lost market value of millions of dollars in sellable seats in eastern USA, per night.

Whilst valid, I have a feeling that this band are not short of a few quid. Yes they tour to make money, but they'll be doing just fine i'm sure. The energy coming from them from the stage told me that they were absolutely in the element and loving every minute in playing to the crowds they got. 

There was even more energy last night. I know he does it all the time but EV said at the end something about that they will be back (I got the impression he meant Europe), so hopefully not waiting as long for the next tour as some of the doom mongers here talk about. 

Exactly! In a dream world they'll be back next year, but I doubt it. Allready looking forward to Euro tour 2026! Missed out when Berlin got cancelled, but this was pure bad luck with the illness...I'm glad that it seems they've got some sort of new found energy.

Don't sleep on barcelona next time. 
I'm barca over Berlin all day now.

RatherStarved

YourDirtisMyfood said:

The corporate party happens behind the curtain.

What happens behind the curtain stays behind the curtain 

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Zen23

I am not going to complain with the following information. Promise. I just want to show how an artist's presale usually works in Europe and why it led to such a big discussion with Pearl Jam this year. Because it's definitely not because of the price of €175. Yes, the price is high by our standards. But not unusually high for good seats in the lower tier. However, I have never seen such a price being charged as a standard price right up to the back row of the upper tier. As far as I know, this is unique.

The graphic shows the different price categories in the Volksparkstadion Hamburg using the example of the Ed Sheeran concert, which has just gone on sale. I am aware that Ed Sheeran is an individual artist. He just serves as an example of a proper price gradation. Replace him with Tool, Foo Fighters or Coldplay for all I care.

Category 1 Seat
€ 145,22

Category 2 Seat
€ 117,72

Category 3 Seat
€ 95,72

Category 4 Seat
€ 57,22

Category 5 Seat
€ 35,22

Category 6 Standing
€ 90,22

JABK

seanclax said:

JABK said:

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

Lerxst1992 said:

prl said:

seanclax said:

Barcelona night 2
the whole of the back of the arena and all 300 sections completly blacked out.
What a shitshow.
They gotta learn from this.

It was pretty sad to see that in a PJ show, actually.

That’s a lost market value of millions of dollars in sellable seats in eastern USA, per night.

Whilst valid, I have a feeling that this band are not short of a few quid. Yes they tour to make money, but they'll be doing just fine i'm sure. The energy coming from them from the stage told me that they were absolutely in the element and loving every minute in playing to the crowds they got. 

There was even more energy last night. I know he does it all the time but EV said at the end something about that they will be back (I got the impression he meant Europe), so hopefully not waiting as long for the next tour as some of the doom mongers here talk about. 

Exactly! In a dream world they'll be back next year, but I doubt it. Allready looking forward to Euro tour 2026! Missed out when Berlin got cancelled, but this was pure bad luck with the illness...I'm glad that it seems they've got some sort of new found energy.

Don't sleep on barcelona next time. 
I'm barca over Berlin all day now.

Funny thing is i chose between Berlin 2 and Barcelona 2...chose Berlin 2...

pdalowsky

JABK said:

seanclax said:

JABK said:

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

Lerxst1992 said:

prl said:

seanclax said:

Barcelona night 2
the whole of the back of the arena and all 300 sections completly blacked out.
What a shitshow.
They gotta learn from this.

It was pretty sad to see that in a PJ show, actually.

That’s a lost market value of millions of dollars in sellable seats in eastern USA, per night.

Whilst valid, I have a feeling that this band are not short of a few quid. Yes they tour to make money, but they'll be doing just fine i'm sure. The energy coming from them from the stage told me that they were absolutely in the element and loving every minute in playing to the crowds they got. 

There was even more energy last night. I know he does it all the time but EV said at the end something about that they will be back (I got the impression he meant Europe), so hopefully not waiting as long for the next tour as some of the doom mongers here talk about. 

Exactly! In a dream world they'll be back next year, but I doubt it. Allready looking forward to Euro tour 2026! Missed out when Berlin got cancelled, but this was pure bad luck with the illness...I'm glad that it seems they've got some sort of new found energy.

Don't sleep on barcelona next time. 
I'm barca over Berlin all day now.

Funny thing is i chose between Berlin 2 and Barcelona 2...chose Berlin 2...

Having done both, I would only ever do Barcelona in the future if faced with this choice.

I was always team Berlin having gone to shows there on 4 tours, and loved the city and the venues. But the crowd at Barcelona were insane. No brainer from here on in if faced with that call and the shows are both two nighters

rangers72

I think it will be at least a couple of years before they will be back in europe.Luckily we have had Springsteen do massive tours in 23,24 and i think hes back next year!The national have done 2 big european tours in the last  year(going to see them Edinburgh)and kings of leon and Killers have done big tours,indeed The Killers are in the middle of a 7 show run in London at the moment.Next year i think europe will see the Stones and Muse back  and still rumours of a Oasis comeback! .So hopefully the band will come back fully fit and hopefully play some places they havent played in a while.

meme

STATEOFLOVE59 said:

Tons of unsold seat everywhere in Europe du Princig Policy.
Event in Berlin (Have a look at eventeam.de, nothing is sold event at the cheapest rates)
Poor atmosphere....

Well, you were wrong. Not on the unsold seats, but on the poor atmosphere

Spags

Wait, that was a curtain? I waited ages for the video screens to come on...

Not really, my shows were all cancelled. 

drfox

pdalowsky said:

JABK said:

seanclax said:

JABK said:

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

Lerxst1992 said:

prl said:

seanclax said:

Barcelona night 2
the whole of the back of the arena and all 300 sections completly blacked out.
What a shitshow.
They gotta learn from this.

It was pretty sad to see that in a PJ show, actually.

That’s a lost market value of millions of dollars in sellable seats in eastern USA, per night.

Whilst valid, I have a feeling that this band are not short of a few quid. Yes they tour to make money, but they'll be doing just fine i'm sure. The energy coming from them from the stage told me that they were absolutely in the element and loving every minute in playing to the crowds they got. 

There was even more energy last night. I know he does it all the time but EV said at the end something about that they will be back (I got the impression he meant Europe), so hopefully not waiting as long for the next tour as some of the doom mongers here talk about. 

Exactly! In a dream world they'll be back next year, but I doubt it. Allready looking forward to Euro tour 2026! Missed out when Berlin got cancelled, but this was pure bad luck with the illness...I'm glad that it seems they've got some sort of new found energy.

Don't sleep on barcelona next time. 
I'm barca over Berlin all day now.

Funny thing is i chose between Berlin 2 and Barcelona 2...chose Berlin 2...

Having done both, I would only ever do Barcelona in the future if faced with this choice.

I was always team Berlin having gone to shows there on 4 tours, and loved the city and the venues. But the crowd at Barcelona were insane. No brainer from here on in if faced with that call and the shows are both two nighters

Agree having done these places in 2022 and 2024. Berlin has that irritating 10pm curfew as well.

pjl44

Fellas, sold out ballparks and massive merch budgets eagerly await your return!

JABK

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

JABK said:

seanclax said:

JABK said:

drfox said:

pdalowsky said:

Lerxst1992 said:

prl said:

seanclax said:

Barcelona night 2
the whole of the back of the arena and all 300 sections completly blacked out.
What a shitshow.
They gotta learn from this.

It was pretty sad to see that in a PJ show, actually.

That’s a lost market value of millions of dollars in sellable seats in eastern USA, per night.

Whilst valid, I have a feeling that this band are not short of a few quid. Yes they tour to make money, but they'll be doing just fine i'm sure. The energy coming from them from the stage told me that they were absolutely in the element and loving every minute in playing to the crowds they got. 

There was even more energy last night. I know he does it all the time but EV said at the end something about that they will be back (I got the impression he meant Europe), so hopefully not waiting as long for the next tour as some of the doom mongers here talk about. 

Exactly! In a dream world they'll be back next year, but I doubt it. Allready looking forward to Euro tour 2026! Missed out when Berlin got cancelled, but this was pure bad luck with the illness...I'm glad that it seems they've got some sort of new found energy.

Don't sleep on barcelona next time. 
I'm barca over Berlin all day now.

Funny thing is i chose between Berlin 2 and Barcelona 2...chose Berlin 2...

Having done both, I would only ever do Barcelona in the future if faced with this choice.

I was always team Berlin having gone to shows there on 4 tours, and loved the city and the venues. But the crowd at Barcelona were insane. No brainer from here on in if faced with that call and the shows are both two nighters

Agree having done these places in 2022 and 2024. Berlin has that irritating 10pm curfew as well.

Yes. And from now on when possible I'll only go to arenas when travelling...to avoid bad weather 😎

JABK

A little off topic perhaps, but does anyone have real info on the cancellations that you can't play the place you cancelled for two years? Is it country, city or venue specific?

Spiritual_Chaos

@seanclax has blurted it out on several instances like stone-cold known facts, so he should know the specifics I guess. 

BlueLedbetter

JABK said:

A little off topic perhaps, but does anyone have real info on the cancellations that you can't play the place you cancelled for two years? Is it country, city or venue specific?

Wouldn't it be specific to the policy/band/insurance company?

drfox

BlueLedbetter said:

JABK said:

A little off topic perhaps, but does anyone have real info on the cancellations that you can't play the place you cancelled for two years? Is it country, city or venue specific?

Wouldn't it be specific to the policy/band/insurance company?

Yep almost certainly 

pdalowsky

JABK said:

A little off topic perhaps, but does anyone have real info on the cancellations that you can't play the place you cancelled for two years? Is it country, city or venue specific?

The simple answer is no one has a clue

seanclax

Spiritual_Chaos said:

@seanclax has blurted it out on several instances like stone-cold known facts, so he should know the specifics I guess. 

Dunno why you would name me. But I guess your a [Name calling removed by Admin]
I think I mentioned it once and it was a consensus of a group discussion that you clearly wernt part of.
Wind your neck in

tino_11

IIRC the 2 year insurance thing came from a quote from a member of The Who who mentioned this as a reason that they hadn't gone back to cities they'd cancelled at that time. People then assumed this must be the case for PJ, given they didn't go back to the missed citied on this tour. 

Spiritual_Chaos

seanclax said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

@seanclax has blurted it out on several instances like stone-cold known facts, so he should know the specifics I guess. 

Dunno why you would name me. But I guess your a [Name calling removed by Admin]
I think I mentioned it once and it was a consensus of a group discussion that you clearly wernt part of.
Wind your neck in

I can go to to the nearest McDonalds and have a group discussion with some truckers about brain surgery and reach a consensus too. Wouldn't matter one bit in itself. As a hypothesis perhaps, in a limited fashion. But not hard facts.