European Tour Sales = Desaster

Zen23

Rossdoc81 said:

It's actually hard to read through some of these threads on here. You really can't say, or even hint, that Pearl Jam may be doing anything negative. You are just told "be grateful they are touring, they don't owe you anything" which are pretty meaningless phrases that never address any of the issues people raise. So from now on should we just accept everything PJ does no matter how shitty it is and not point it out? 

Here we have someone who paid €175 for a ticket and got €161 back and people on here seem to think that's OK? Obviously you can't blame the band for this, but it does demonstrate the mind-set of some people on this forum who's immediate reaction is to jump in and attack anyone who makes any kind of point that paints the band in a negative light.

I also think there's a clear divide on here between us Europeans who are dealing with these cancellations in real life and see this tour as a f**k up from the beginning, and people in the US that are thousands of miles away just typing stuff into a computer having no idea of what's going on over here.

Best post I've read in this thread so far. By far. Thanks for that. 

seanclax

raindog80 said:

Rossdoc81 said:

I also think there's a clear divide on here between us Europeans who are dealing with these cancellations in real life and see this tour as a f**k up from the beginning, and people in the US that are thousands of miles away just typing stuff into a computer having no idea of what's going on over here.

This. 

Yep this is 100% accurate.
It was different after Indy got cancelled though

lastexitlondon

Zen23 said:

Rossdoc81 said:

It's actually hard to read through some of these threads on here. You really can't say, or even hint, that Pearl Jam may be doing anything negative. You are just told "be grateful they are touring, they don't owe you anything" which are pretty meaningless phrases that never address any of the issues people raise. So from now on should we just accept everything PJ does no matter how shitty it is and not point it out? 

Here we have someone who paid €175 for a ticket and got €161 back and people on here seem to think that's OK? Obviously you can't blame the band for this, but it does demonstrate the mind-set of some people on this forum who's immediate reaction is to jump in and attack anyone who makes any kind of point that paints the band in a negative light.

I also think there's a clear divide on here between us Europeans who are dealing with these cancellations in real life and see this tour as a f**k up from the beginning, and people in the US that are thousands of miles away just typing stuff into a computer having no idea of what's going on over here.

Best post I've read in this thread so far. By far. Thanks for that. 

+1

marumaruko

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seanclax

marumaruko said:

So, ticket prices have gone down in Barcelona as well, with hardly any takers.

At this point, it's just comical that no one is buying these tickets, even at a reduced price. In 1995, PJ tried to go against Ticketmaster; 29 years later, their European-based fans are turning on them. It almost feels like that line in the Batman comic: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In a less dramatic fashion, of course.

I would have never thought PJ would suffer such a loss of popularity. It goes to show how quickly the music industry can change. Back in the 90s, their concerts were always sold out within hours. Even in the 2010's. Now, even with reduced prices, they can't seem to fill the venues. It's disappointing to see a band that once had such a loyal fan base struggling like this.

Maybe it’s a sign of the times, or perhaps many fans have simply moved on. Whatever the reason, it's clear that things are not the same anymore. I hope they can find a way to bounce back, but I fear their best days might be behind them. Especially with such a great record released, the public excitement seems to fizzle out quicker than we all thought, as well. 

I think I'm going to stop posting here altogether. I was already deterred from it in 2016, and again in 2022, but jumped the gun this year in anticipation of a fantastic European tour with a new record. It didn't turn out that way. 
This should be a more positive place, as well. My own negativity and disappointment doesn't help it. 
See you (perhaps) at a show in the future. 

Can we stop talking about pearl jam vs ticketmaster.
It was a long time a go and they lost dismally. Get ago it.

Rossdoc81

Most of the tickets for Barcelona are still over €170 .
The average salary in Spain is €29 000.
It's not hard to figure out why no one is buying tickets.

Spiritual_Chaos

marumaruko said:

So, ticket prices have gone down in Barcelona as well, with hardly any takers.

At this point, it's just comical that no one is buying these tickets, even at a reduced price. In 1995, PJ tried to go against Ticketmaster; 29 years later, their European-based fans are turning on them. It almost feels like that line in the Batman comic: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In a less dramatic fashion, of course.

I would have never thought PJ would suffer such a loss of popularity. It goes to show how quickly the music industry can change. Back in the 90s, their concerts were always sold out within hours. Even in the 2010's. Now, even with reduced prices, they can't seem to fill the venues. It's disappointing to see a band that once had such a loyal fan base struggling like this.

Maybe it’s a sign of the times, or perhaps many fans have simply moved on. Whatever the reason, it's clear that things are not the same anymore. I hope they can find a way to bounce back, but I fear their best days might be behind them. Especially with such a great record released, the public excitement seems to fizzle out quicker than we all thought, as well. 

I think I'm going to stop posting here altogether. I was already deterred from it in 2016, and again in 2022, but jumped the gun this year in anticipation of a fantastic European tour with a new record. It didn't turn out that way. 
This should be a more positive place, as well. My own negativity and disappointment doesn't help it. 
See you (perhaps) at a show in the future. 

Batman comic? Isn’t is strictly from the second Nolan-film. 

Spiritual_Chaos

seanclax said:

marumaruko said:

So, ticket prices have gone down in Barcelona as well, with hardly any takers.

At this point, it's just comical that no one is buying these tickets, even at a reduced price. In 1995, PJ tried to go against Ticketmaster; 29 years later, their European-based fans are turning on them. It almost feels like that line in the Batman comic: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In a less dramatic fashion, of course.

I would have never thought PJ would suffer such a loss of popularity. It goes to show how quickly the music industry can change. Back in the 90s, their concerts were always sold out within hours. Even in the 2010's. Now, even with reduced prices, they can't seem to fill the venues. It's disappointing to see a band that once had such a loyal fan base struggling like this.

Maybe it’s a sign of the times, or perhaps many fans have simply moved on. Whatever the reason, it's clear that things are not the same anymore. I hope they can find a way to bounce back, but I fear their best days might be behind them. Especially with such a great record released, the public excitement seems to fizzle out quicker than we all thought, as well. 

I think I'm going to stop posting here altogether. I was already deterred from it in 2016, and again in 2022, but jumped the gun this year in anticipation of a fantastic European tour with a new record. It didn't turn out that way. 
This should be a more positive place, as well. My own negativity and disappointment doesn't help it. 
See you (perhaps) at a show in the future. 

Can we stop talking about pearl jam vs ticketmaster.
It was a long time a go and they lost dismally. Get ago it.

With 170 euro ticketprices, there is no better time to talk about it

seanclax

Spiritual_Chaos said:

seanclax said:

marumaruko said:

So, ticket prices have gone down in Barcelona as well, with hardly any takers.

At this point, it's just comical that no one is buying these tickets, even at a reduced price. In 1995, PJ tried to go against Ticketmaster; 29 years later, their European-based fans are turning on them. It almost feels like that line in the Batman comic: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In a less dramatic fashion, of course.

I would have never thought PJ would suffer such a loss of popularity. It goes to show how quickly the music industry can change. Back in the 90s, their concerts were always sold out within hours. Even in the 2010's. Now, even with reduced prices, they can't seem to fill the venues. It's disappointing to see a band that once had such a loyal fan base struggling like this.

Maybe it’s a sign of the times, or perhaps many fans have simply moved on. Whatever the reason, it's clear that things are not the same anymore. I hope they can find a way to bounce back, but I fear their best days might be behind them. Especially with such a great record released, the public excitement seems to fizzle out quicker than we all thought, as well. 

I think I'm going to stop posting here altogether. I was already deterred from it in 2016, and again in 2022, but jumped the gun this year in anticipation of a fantastic European tour with a new record. It didn't turn out that way. 
This should be a more positive place, as well. My own negativity and disappointment doesn't help it. 
See you (perhaps) at a show in the future. 

Can we stop talking about pearl jam vs ticketmaster.
It was a long time a go and they lost dismally. Get ago it.

With 170 euro ticketprices, there is no better time to talk about it

Don't buy a ticket then.

Spiritual_Chaos

seanclax said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

seanclax said:

marumaruko said:

So, ticket prices have gone down in Barcelona as well, with hardly any takers.

At this point, it's just comical that no one is buying these tickets, even at a reduced price. In 1995, PJ tried to go against Ticketmaster; 29 years later, their European-based fans are turning on them. It almost feels like that line in the Batman comic: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In a less dramatic fashion, of course.

I would have never thought PJ would suffer such a loss of popularity. It goes to show how quickly the music industry can change. Back in the 90s, their concerts were always sold out within hours. Even in the 2010's. Now, even with reduced prices, they can't seem to fill the venues. It's disappointing to see a band that once had such a loyal fan base struggling like this.

Maybe it’s a sign of the times, or perhaps many fans have simply moved on. Whatever the reason, it's clear that things are not the same anymore. I hope they can find a way to bounce back, but I fear their best days might be behind them. Especially with such a great record released, the public excitement seems to fizzle out quicker than we all thought, as well. 

I think I'm going to stop posting here altogether. I was already deterred from it in 2016, and again in 2022, but jumped the gun this year in anticipation of a fantastic European tour with a new record. It didn't turn out that way. 
This should be a more positive place, as well. My own negativity and disappointment doesn't help it. 
See you (perhaps) at a show in the future. 

Can we stop talking about pearl jam vs ticketmaster.
It was a long time a go and they lost dismally. Get ago it.

With 170 euro ticketprices, there is no better time to talk about it

Don't buy a ticket then.

Don’t hassle people who choose to talk about Ticketmaster then. 

lastexitlondon

seanclax said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

seanclax said:

marumaruko said:

So, ticket prices have gone down in Barcelona as well, with hardly any takers.

At this point, it's just comical that no one is buying these tickets, even at a reduced price. In 1995, PJ tried to go against Ticketmaster; 29 years later, their European-based fans are turning on them. It almost feels like that line in the Batman comic: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In a less dramatic fashion, of course.

I would have never thought PJ would suffer such a loss of popularity. It goes to show how quickly the music industry can change. Back in the 90s, their concerts were always sold out within hours. Even in the 2010's. Now, even with reduced prices, they can't seem to fill the venues. It's disappointing to see a band that once had such a loyal fan base struggling like this.

Maybe it’s a sign of the times, or perhaps many fans have simply moved on. Whatever the reason, it's clear that things are not the same anymore. I hope they can find a way to bounce back, but I fear their best days might be behind them. Especially with such a great record released, the public excitement seems to fizzle out quicker than we all thought, as well. 

I think I'm going to stop posting here altogether. I was already deterred from it in 2016, and again in 2022, but jumped the gun this year in anticipation of a fantastic European tour with a new record. It didn't turn out that way. 
This should be a more positive place, as well. My own negativity and disappointment doesn't help it. 
See you (perhaps) at a show in the future. 

Can we stop talking about pearl jam vs ticketmaster.
It was a long time a go and they lost dismally. Get ago it.

With 170 euro ticketprices, there is no better time to talk about it

Don't buy a ticket then.

Maybe take a time out. 

seanclax

Spiritual_Chaos said:

seanclax said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

seanclax said:

marumaruko said:

So, ticket prices have gone down in Barcelona as well, with hardly any takers.

At this point, it's just comical that no one is buying these tickets, even at a reduced price. In 1995, PJ tried to go against Ticketmaster; 29 years later, their European-based fans are turning on them. It almost feels like that line in the Batman comic: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In a less dramatic fashion, of course.

I would have never thought PJ would suffer such a loss of popularity. It goes to show how quickly the music industry can change. Back in the 90s, their concerts were always sold out within hours. Even in the 2010's. Now, even with reduced prices, they can't seem to fill the venues. It's disappointing to see a band that once had such a loyal fan base struggling like this.

Maybe it’s a sign of the times, or perhaps many fans have simply moved on. Whatever the reason, it's clear that things are not the same anymore. I hope they can find a way to bounce back, but I fear their best days might be behind them. Especially with such a great record released, the public excitement seems to fizzle out quicker than we all thought, as well. 

I think I'm going to stop posting here altogether. I was already deterred from it in 2016, and again in 2022, but jumped the gun this year in anticipation of a fantastic European tour with a new record. It didn't turn out that way. 
This should be a more positive place, as well. My own negativity and disappointment doesn't help it. 
See you (perhaps) at a show in the future. 

Can we stop talking about pearl jam vs ticketmaster.
It was a long time a go and they lost dismally. Get ago it.

With 170 euro ticketprices, there is no better time to talk about it

Don't buy a ticket then.

Don’t hassle people who choose to talk about Ticketmaster then. 

Lol like I said before about you, your just here to argue.

And the guy was talking about 95 and taking TM to court which they lost. So for another 17 years ticket prices were fine. Buy now it's suddenly and issue and people bring out the court case. It means nothing 

lastexitlondon

So your opinion is valid and other people's isn't? 

seanclax

lastexitlondon said:

So your opinion is valid and other people's isn't? 

Yeah thats what I said wasn't it

D-Day

Rossdoc81 said:

Most of the tickets for Barcelona are still over €170 .
The average salary in Spain is €29 000.
It's not hard to figure out why no one is buying tickets.

Would not buy anything now. 

It’s still overprized.
Check your prefered seats and 
remember Berlin (close to showdate) and Manchester > showdate 5am:
The 160£ tickets for about 80£! 

About 80£ was the „Pearl Jam-ENTRY-Price“ and all on top
was only there to kill scalping and a moneymaker - fans paid for that.

I can’t say when the Manchester 50% drop started exactly but that‘s what I have seen with my own eyes on screen 5am - plus worse things too.

D-Day

B1 right now - the whole back of the arena is back?! Prices still on wait and see. Maybe it will happen here in Barcelona:
The Super Sale incl. Pearl Jam for TEN€

Zen23

They only took the entire back third of the venue off sale for the second evening. I wonder if that will ever come back. Or whether the back third of the venue will actually remain empty.

D-Day

As I remember the whole back was off for both dates on screen yesterday. 

Edit: Or my view was only on Saturday because I thought Monday can’t be better…;) 

Anyway B2 on Monday could offer some 1€ seats and give-away tickets.

pdalowsky

and we are still talking about ticket prices.....

surely everyone has had their say by now, is there really anything further to add?

D-Day

I think all is visible and obvious so far.
The only open point: will prices drop below „normal“ ENTRY and if so how far…

The answer should give a view 1-2 hours before doors.

Pictured: the cheapest tickets for B1 right now.
Block 213 vanished at 80€ and 214 short after.