European Tour Sales = Desaster

D-Day

Imagine there is no announcement - would you show up at the venue ?

Greyhound06

Sure. 

D-Day

When should they made the next announcement and why? 

pjl44

There will probably be an announcement but the default is "the show is on" unless/until you hear otherwise 

just_one

They will only make an announcement if its the cancellation,  they wont make the announcement if the show goes on

D-Day

Let‘s Hope.
this topic is for the ticket Sales Strategy. But Connected to the Stage. So it ends with a Double-Minus: no solution how the TM Berlin Page Looks at the end. Or a Double-Plus: the First Solution ever how the Sales Strategy Looks at the end on Screen.
Manchester: missed by me. London: stopped because of…

GW2553

They have to open up the merch tent, then they make the announcement

on2legs

pjl44 said:

There will probably be an announcement but the default is "the show is on" unless/until you hear otherwise 

just_one said:

They will only make an announcement if its the cancellation,  they wont make the announcement if the show goes on

Agreed… my comment about an announcement was only that it might help ticket sales.  

yorkshirestone

Berlin x2 cancelled (insta) 

marumaruko

And this time they won't even sell any merchandise. They are gonna lose a shit ton of money with all of that. Doesn't matter next to how much every traveling fan loses but still. Must be significant. 

axeljohan

First, they alienate their casual European fan with their pricing policy.
now, the cancellations at the 2nd Euro tour in a row doesn’t help them with the hardcore-traveling fan.

Yep, disaster sounds about right. Wonder how they will do future Euro tours.

Spiritual_Chaos

axeljohan said:

First, they alienate their casual European fan with their pricing policy.
now, the cancellations at the 2nd Euro tour in a row doesn’t help them with the hardcore-traveling fan.

3rd Euro tour

axeljohan

Okay, London 18.

seanclax

Spiritual_Chaos said:

axeljohan said:

First, they alienate their casual European fan with their pricing policy.
now, the cancellations at the 2nd Euro tour in a row doesn’t help them with the hardcore-traveling fan.

3rd Euro tour

2018 doesn't really count. Any band can lose on show. And they definitely made it up at the end of the tour.
And I say that as someone who got close to the venue before they cancelled 

Spiritual_Chaos

seanclax said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

axeljohan said:

First, they alienate their casual European fan with their pricing policy.
now, the cancellations at the 2nd Euro tour in a row doesn’t help them with the hardcore-traveling fan.

3rd Euro tour

2018 doesn't really count. Any band can lose on show. And they definitely made it up at the end of the tour.
And I say that as someone who got close to the venue before they cancelled 

Lol. Ofc it counts. Just like any band can lose a show, any band can lose two shows or three.

And a lot of people travelling weren’t helped by that extra date just like they wouldn’t be if they tagged on Berlin at the end of this tour. Not that they adding that has anything to do with what is being discussed. 

vedpunk

I feel so bad for both the fans and the band.  Dark Matter is such a f’kn great album and isn’t getting the proper live treatment and exposure that it deserves.  

marumaruko

vedpunk said:

I feel so bad for both the fans and the band.  Dark Matter is such a f’kn great album and isn’t getting the proper live treatment and exposure that it deserves.  

Well, that album might be dead in Europe. Sold only 65000 more copies than Gigaton which was released during Covid. Live shows not happening will not boost the record either. At least the streaming numbers kept increasing until July. But with shows not happening, I'm curious what the effects will be here. 

Joostone

Ok, for the third tour in a row (2018/2022 and now 2024) the band (Ed) was forced to cancel shows. Combine that with their high current ticket prices and yes, the band is losing former strong markets for them. Europe is still their biggest market after the US. And they really should go above and beyond to fix that. Obviously Ed should be once more inspired by Springsteen and Daltrey. Call them and ask how they managed at 60. Daltrey is only drinking tea and is really really taking care of his voice (not allowing smoking in his audience for example). Yeah, Eddie should really quit smoking first... It's obvious that he needs to change his routine by now.

They should come back rather sooner than later. Like Springsteen who already planned the cancelled shows for 2025. PJ should do the same next year. But no more outdoor shows in the summer. They should do a indoor arena tour in september (like 2006). Make it at least 20 shows in most EU countries for reasonable prices. They really should fix these markets if they want to do this untill they are 70.

lastexitlondon

Just one point indoor shows spread illnesses much better

marumaruko

Great points overall. While it hurts, but throwing tambourines into the crowd is enough close interaction at this point. Don't need to touch us sweaty, snotty people in the front row. Less chances to become ill.