Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread
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kmcmanus said:mpedone said:bbiggs said:People act like this is cracking the Enigma code. Any one of a couple very simple and reasonable fixes to the system would help improve it.
1. Allow show prioritization again - the easiest and least impactful to PJ's bottom line.
2. Allow GA only selection again - the least likely (see PJ bottom line).
For those that think this process is good, knowing that some 10C members go 10/10 and others go 0/10:
A. They probably won a whole bunch of shows and/or GA selections.
B. They are blindly devoted to anything 10C or PJ.
C. They are lying to themselves.
Yes I know how lotteries work and yes I've successfully taken college level probability and statistics courses. The fact is that the system is majorly flawed and can be vastly improved by one simple fix (see #1 above).
I'm not sure anyone thinks this version of the lottery is "good", just some rubbing up against the idea that it was rigged, or somehow designed to screw them over.0 -
Come on Philly, either night!0
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given2fly23 said:How are people finding out about credit card problems? My friend still hasn't heard on either Wrigley show and I'm worried it's a CC issue.0
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EBowie said:I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered. That was cool. Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter. What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?
Pearl Jam might just believe in the radical notion that someone who wasn't born when you joined the Ten Club should also have the opportunity to watch a show from in front of the stage.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
NewfieintheUSA said:Come on Philly, either night!I found my place......and it's alright0
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Johnny Abruzzo said:know1 said:SHZA said:NewfieintheUSA said:know1 said:NewfieintheUSA said:PJ and Dylan are my muse said:I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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Kevinman said:BloodMeridian80 said:bbiggs said:People act like this is cracking the Enigma code. Any one of a couple very simple and reasonable fixes to the system would help improve it.
1. Allow show prioritization again - the easiest and least impactful to PJ's bottom line.
2. Allow GA only selection again - the least likely (see PJ bottom line).
For those that think this process is good, knowing that some 10C members go 10/10 and others go 0/10:
A. They probably won a whole bunch of shows and/or GA selections.
B. They are blindly devoted to anything 10C or PJ.
C. They are lying to themselves.
Yes I know how lotteries work and yes I've successfully taken college level probability and statistics courses. The fact is that the system is majorly flawed and can be vastly improved by one simple fix (see #1 above).
Still, I'm curious to see where my seats will end up on a 26 year old fan club membership. If I'm in one of the sections closer to the stage, it's not so bad. If I'm on the floor behind the pit, then I'll upgrade to almost anything elsePost edited by Zod on0 -
markin ball said:Got GA/Pit standing for Fenway. I see on the seat map there are sections labeled turf pit and and then turf a7, turf b2, etc. So do I got "turf pit" or is that yet to be determined? Thanks for any help!After looking at that seating map and you have GA/PIT tickets you will be in the Turf Pit. The ones labeled as Turf A7 and so on are reserved seats.0
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MD190661 said:PJammin' said:SHZA said:washed in black said:NewfieintheUSA said:washed in black said:Johnny Abruzzo said:PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
That's how we won Baltimore, a show we really wanted.I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.0 -
Been reading the comments of this thread and I've come to a conclusion. And this is coming from a long time member and someone who lost out on shows in my hometown this go around. I really hope some prominent 10c organizers or even some band members read some of the comments on this thread. Not to come together and find a solution on how to impossibly make everyone happy about this ticket lottery. Nooo, but to realize they are missing the mark on a future merch idea............. you win some, you lose some people. Some of you are acting like entitled whiny little babies. Get over it already0
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washed in black said:mpedone said:jimjam1982 said:GA/P1 - feels like its own GA only option. The GA pit is a different color.
P1 is the blue
P2 was the orange
It wasn't particularly clear but I feel like the P stands for price. Since seated/GA are the same price they get tagged with the P1
Except that the option said "GA or P1 Reserved - Standing or Seating", so it wasn't just price.
I speculated earlier that there were no doubt people who did not choose all three options and that this would result in better chances of those people being shut out, and this thread is proving that assertion right. People may have had different reasons for not checking all three boxes. Some preferred getting no ticket to getting a ticket in P2. Some did not read the instructions. Some did not understand the instructions. Some did not believe the instructions. Whatever the reason, the result is that some people who would have gotten tickets if they had selected all three options ended up not getting tickets.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
I think the purpose of the P1 only option is for people that can't or don't want to stand in GA. The GA Pit or P1 Seating is for people that would love GA but will take P1 as a consolation prize.
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BF25394 said:EBowie said:I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered. That was cool. Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter. What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?
Pearl Jam might just believe in the radical notion that someone who wasn't born when you joined the Ten Club should also have the opportunity to watch a show from in front of the stage.
Want guaranteed good seats with your low number - ask PJ to eliminate GA and go back to all reserved. I don't think most people want that.
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bbiggs said:People act like this is cracking the Enigma code. Any one of a couple very simple and reasonable fixes to the system would help improve it.
1. Allow show prioritization again - the easiest and least impactful to PJ's bottom line.
2. Allow GA only selection again - the least likely (see PJ bottom line).
For those that think this process is good, knowing that some 10C members go 10/10 and others go 0/10:
A. They probably won a whole bunch of shows and/or GA selections.
B. They are blindly devoted to anything 10C or PJ.
C. They are lying to themselves.
Yes I know how lotteries work and yes I've successfully taken college level probability and statistics courses. The fact is that the system is majorly flawed and can be vastly improved by one simple fix (see #1 above).I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
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Kevinman said:BloodMeridian80 said:bbiggs said:People act like this is cracking the Enigma code. Any one of a couple very simple and reasonable fixes to the system would help improve it.
1. Allow show prioritization again - the easiest and least impactful to PJ's bottom line.
2. Allow GA only selection again - the least likely (see PJ bottom line).
For those that think this process is good, knowing that some 10C members go 10/10 and others go 0/10:
A. They probably won a whole bunch of shows and/or GA selections.
B. They are blindly devoted to anything 10C or PJ.
C. They are lying to themselves.
Yes I know how lotteries work and yes I've successfully taken college level probability and statistics courses. The fact is that the system is majorly flawed and can be vastly improved by one simple fix (see #1 above).I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
washed in black said:BF25394 said:EBowie said:I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered. That was cool. Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter. What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?
Pearl Jam might just believe in the radical notion that someone who wasn't born when you joined the Ten Club should also have the opportunity to watch a show from in front of the stage.
Want guaranteed good seats with your low number - ask PJ to eliminate GA and go back to all reserved. I don't think most people want that.
I will bet you dollars to donuts that there are fewer Ten Club members in 2024 than there were in the decade of the 2000s.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
I’m not an expert on this and maybe it’s a horrible analogy, but this is the way I look it. if I spend $2 a week for 30 years on a Powerball ticket, I don’t expect to have better odds than the person playing for the first time. We both have a chance to win the jackpot, in this case GA or a smaller prize like P1 or P2. In this case if you win a smaller prize, the person playing longer actually wins a bigger smaller prize which is better seats.
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B4idiejets said:Been reading the comments of this thread and I've come to a conclusion. And this is coming from a long time member and someone who lost out on shows in my hometown this go around. I really hope some prominent 10c organizers or even some band members read some of the comments on this thread. Not to come together and find a solution on how to impossibly make everyone happy about this ticket lottery. Nooo, but to realize they are missing the mark on a future merch idea............. you win some, you lose some people. Some of you are acting like entitled whiny little babies. Get over it alreadyI died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.0
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know1 said:EBowie said:I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered. That was cool. Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter. What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?
Seniority has never determined if you got tickets. It's always only been about seat assignment, it amazes me that there are folks (not you, others) who have been members since the 90s and think seniority was a factor in obtaining tickets. You got your tickets at one point by mailing in index cards, then an order form, then the old F5 days, and now lottery entries.
Do people think they opened up the mail in the 90's looked at who the index card was from and said, "too new a member, throw it in the trash"? Do they think during the F5 days that 10club magically enabled the internet connection of the folks with 5-digit numbers and blocked those with high numbers? Seniority has always only been about seat assignment. Those who think it helped them score tickets are wrong. I have a 5-digit number, I've been through every iteration of 10C presale, not once has seniority helped me or anyone obtain tix. In the old days, 10club was just able to get enough tickets to fill all the orders when membership was smaller and TM/Live Nation hadn't implemented the 10% rule for fan clubs (or PJ negotiated around it). Now the membership numbers are too high to fulfill everyone (coupled with shorter tours of course to exacerbate the situation).Post edited by Poncier onThis weekend we rock Portland0
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