It sounds great. Wish PJs new or next stuff sounds a bit like this. And less ”dense”/maxed out.
Liked it a lot.
BUT ITS NOT BLACK CROWES WITHOUT GORMAN
Do tell…..who are they then? The band has moved on, why can’t you? Would it make you happier if they called themselves The Robinson Brothers featuring Sven?
Tell the captain 'This boats not safe And we're drowning.'
It sounds great. Wish PJs new or next stuff sounds a bit like this. And less ”dense”/maxed out.
Liked it a lot.
BUT ITS NOT BLACK CROWES WITHOUT GORMAN
Do tell…..who are they then? The band has moved on, why can’t you? Would it make you happier if they called themselves The Robinson Brothers featuring Sven?
I think his position is a reasonable one to take. Who's drumming now? Wikipedia says Cully Symington. That right? I'd feel good about that.
It sounds great. Wish PJs new or next stuff sounds a bit like this. And less ”dense”/maxed out.
Liked it a lot.
BUT ITS NOT BLACK CROWES WITHOUT GORMAN
Do tell…..who are they then? The band has moved on, why can’t you? Would it make you happier if they called themselves The Robinson Brothers featuring Sven?
Sure. Ask them to change it.
Thank you
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
It sounds great. Wish PJs new or next stuff sounds a bit like this. And less ”dense”/maxed out.
Liked it a lot.
BUT ITS NOT BLACK CROWES WITHOUT GORMAN
Do tell…..who are they then? The band has moved on, why can’t you? Would it make you happier if they called themselves The Robinson Brothers featuring Sven?
Sure. Ask them to change it.
Thank you
😂🤣😂
Tell the captain 'This boats not safe And we're drowning.'
Count me in the group that misses Gorman. Wish they got him and Marc Ford back. They’ve cycled through 3 sets of drummers/keyboardists/lead guitarists since 2022. It’s dumb. Yeah they sound good but it could be so much better. That’s what frustrates a lot of us.
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Count me in the group that misses Gorman. Wish they got him and Marc Ford back. They’ve cycled through 3 sets of drummers/keyboardists/lead guitarists since 2022. It’s dumb. Yeah they sound good but it could be so much better. That’s what frustrates a lot of us.
I get it. I’m personally just extremely happy they’re making, and playing music again.
Tell the captain 'This boats not safe And we're drowning.'
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It sounds great. Wish PJs new or next stuff sounds a bit like this. And less ”dense”/maxed out.
Liked it a lot.
BUT ITS NOT BLACK CROWES WITHOUT GORMAN
Do tell…..who are they then? The band has moved on, why can’t you? Would it make you happier if they called themselves The Robinson Brothers featuring Sven?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Listening on Tidal and I went to Credits > Info. There's an album review which is not terribly controversial but seems to be an interesting choice to appear in what is essentially the liner notes on a streaming service.
Count me in the group that misses Gorman. Wish they got him and Marc Ford back. They’ve cycled through 3 sets of drummers/keyboardists/lead guitarists since 2022. It’s dumb. Yeah they sound good but it could be so much better. That’s what frustrates a lot of us.
count me in, too. I loved any of their “other” guitar players….marc, luther, jackie.
it’s interesting you called them “lead guitarists”….I was never sure if that moniker should go to them or Rich. it probably doesn’t matter. what I’ve always liked is that Rich doesn’t seem to mind sharing. IMHO, Rich is a pretty badass player in his own right.
If I had known then what I know now...
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I bought the two LP soundtrack that includes the DVD disc of the documentary. Nice set!
I don’t really knew dream syndicate
what was interesting in that clip was guys from green on red and the long ryders weighed in….two (what I thought obscure) bands I listened to quite a bit
If I had known then what I know now...
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Count me in the group that misses Gorman. Wish they got him and Marc Ford back. They’ve cycled through 3 sets of drummers/keyboardists/lead guitarists since 2022. It’s dumb. Yeah they sound good but it could be so much better. That’s what frustrates a lot of us.
count me in, too. I loved any of their “other” guitar players….marc, luther, jackie.
it’s interesting you called them “lead guitarists”….I was never sure if that moniker should go to them or Rich. it probably doesn’t matter. what I’ve always liked is that Rich doesn’t seem to mind sharing. IMHO, Rich is a pretty badass player in his own right.
Rich is one of the best rhythm guitarists in the business and an incredible songwriter. Not saying he can’t solo but there’s a reason those were generally left up to Ford/Luther/et al.
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Count me in the group that misses Gorman. Wish they got him and Marc Ford back. They’ve cycled through 3 sets of drummers/keyboardists/lead guitarists since 2022. It’s dumb. Yeah they sound good but it could be so much better. That’s what frustrates a lot of us.
count me in, too. I loved any of their “other” guitar players….marc, luther, jackie.
it’s interesting you called them “lead guitarists”….I was never sure if that moniker should go to them or Rich. it probably doesn’t matter. what I’ve always liked is that Rich doesn’t seem to mind sharing. IMHO, Rich is a pretty badass player in his own right.
Rich is one of the best rhythm guitarists in the business and an incredible songwriter. Not saying he can’t solo but there’s a reason those were generally left up to Ford/Luther/et al.
I just never knew who was who.
I do know that in one of my all time favorite jams, Wiser Time, I always liked it more when Rich “got going” than whatever the other guys were playing.
If I had known then what I know now...
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I bought the two LP soundtrack that includes the DVD disc of the documentary. Nice set!
I don’t really knew dream syndicate
what was interesting in that clip was guys from green on red and the long ryders weighed in….two (what I thought obscure) bands I listened to quite a bit
If you're Green on Red and Long Ryders fan, you'll probably dig The Dream Syndicate! Also, other than the first cut that doesn't do it for me, I think this is great as well. "Danny" is Dan Stuart from Green on Red and "Dusty" is Steve Wynn from The Dream Syndicate (also feature some other guys from the "Paisley Underground" scene):
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Count me in the group that misses Gorman. Wish they got him and Marc Ford back. They’ve cycled through 3 sets of drummers/keyboardists/lead guitarists since 2022. It’s dumb. Yeah they sound good but it could be so much better. That’s what frustrates a lot of us.
count me in, too. I loved any of their “other” guitar players….marc, luther, jackie.
it’s interesting you called them “lead guitarists”….I was never sure if that moniker should go to them or Rich. it probably doesn’t matter. what I’ve always liked is that Rich doesn’t seem to mind sharing. IMHO, Rich is a pretty badass player in his own right.
Rich is one of the best rhythm guitarists in the business and an incredible songwriter. Not saying he can’t solo but there’s a reason those were generally left up to Ford/Luther/et al.
I just never knew who was who.
I do know that in one of my all time favorite jams, Wiser Time, I always liked it more when Rich “got going” than whatever the other guys were playing.
One of my favorite things about seeing the Crowes in their prime was watching Rich conduct the band through long jams with nothing more than a nod or a look. It was mind blowing to me how locked in those guys were. Unfortunately that version of the band is dead and gone. For one they’re trying to be more commercial so the jams will be minimal. Secondly they change musicians so often now there’s no way they can ever build up that musical bond. Not to mention no one they bring in now can match abilities with guys like Gorman/Ford/Harsch/etc.
Dallas, TX (November 15, 2013) Chicago 1 (August 20, 2016) Chicago 2 (August 22, 2016) Ft. Worth 1 (September 13, 2023) Ft. Worth 2 (September 15, 2023)
Chris has a recent interview on the Kyle Meredith With Podcast that's really good. I listened to it this morning.
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Count me in the group that misses Gorman. Wish they got him and Marc Ford back. They’ve cycled through 3 sets of drummers/keyboardists/lead guitarists since 2022. It’s dumb. Yeah they sound good but it could be so much better. That’s what frustrates a lot of us.
count me in, too. I loved any of their “other” guitar players….marc, luther, jackie.
it’s interesting you called them “lead guitarists”….I was never sure if that moniker should go to them or Rich. it probably doesn’t matter. what I’ve always liked is that Rich doesn’t seem to mind sharing. IMHO, Rich is a pretty badass player in his own right.
Rich is one of the best rhythm guitarists in the business and an incredible songwriter. Not saying he can’t solo but there’s a reason those were generally left up to Ford/Luther/et al.
I just never knew who was who.
I do know that in one of my all time favorite jams, Wiser Time, I always liked it more when Rich “got going” than whatever the other guys were playing.
One of my favorite things about seeing the Crowes in their prime was watching Rich conduct the band through long jams with nothing more than a nod or a look. It was mind blowing to me how locked in those guys were. Unfortunately that version of the band is dead and gone. For one they’re trying to be more commercial so the jams will be minimal. Secondly they change musicians so often now there’s no way they can ever build up that musical bond. Not to mention no one they bring in now can match abilities with guys like Gorman/Ford/Harsch/etc.
the last “real” Crowes show I saw (I also saw the Shake tour) was right before the breakup (jackie green)…they did 20 minute versions of both thorn in my pride and wiser time….I was losing my mind.
If I had known then what I know now...
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I don’t really pay attention to drummers so I guess I don’t really miss Steve Gorman. The most important thing for me - with any band - is the singer and the guitar sound. With that in mind, Chris sounds really good on the new record, and the guitars are spot on.
Also, I put it to the rest on a long drive on Tuesday night… this is a great driving album!
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Chris said on Stern that they’re putting out a Jimmy Page/Black Crowes box set next year. Super stoked about that but I still need an Amorica box set too.
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Chris said on Stern that they’re putting out a Jimmy Page/Black Crowes box set next year. Super stoked about that but I still need an Amorica box set too.
Yep. 25th Anniversary to include the BC cuts played but not on og recording...
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm really digging the new album which seems to get better and better with each listen. Bedside Manners and Bleed It Dry were the only weak links thru my first few listens. Last week while on a plane I had a chance to go full immersion via headphones and from first to last notes the whole thing rocks. It's concise and focused and left me wishing for another song or three. Chris mentioned in the Kyle Meredith interview that there isn't as much "atmospheric" music (i.e. Thorn In My Pride) as their other albums aside from SYMM. It's undoubtedly an unapologetic, straight forward rock 'n roll album, yet within it Jay Joyce does a terrific job of peppering many of the songs with nuanced psychedelic sounds layered subtly enough that the songs continue to unfold after multiple listens.
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Liked it a lot.
BUT ITS NOT BLACK CROWES WITHOUT GORMAN
Chicago 1 (August 20, 2016)
Chicago 2 (August 22, 2016)
Ft. Worth 1 (September 13, 2023)
Ft. Worth 2 (September 15, 2023)
The band has moved on, why can’t you?
Would it make you happier if they called themselves The Robinson Brothers featuring Sven?
'This boats not safe
And we're drowning.'
Thank you
'This boats not safe
And we're drowning.'
Chicago 1 (August 20, 2016)
Chicago 2 (August 22, 2016)
Ft. Worth 1 (September 13, 2023)
Ft. Worth 2 (September 15, 2023)
'This boats not safe
And we're drowning.'
PJ isnt PJ without Krusen.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
it’s interesting you called them “lead guitarists”….I was never sure if that moniker should go to them or Rich. it probably doesn’t matter. what I’ve always liked is that Rich doesn’t seem to mind sharing. IMHO, Rich is a pretty badass player in his own right.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
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EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
what was interesting in that clip was guys from green on red and the long ryders weighed in….two (what I thought obscure) bands I listened to quite a bit
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Chicago 1 (August 20, 2016)
Chicago 2 (August 22, 2016)
Ft. Worth 1 (September 13, 2023)
Ft. Worth 2 (September 15, 2023)
I do know that in one of my all time favorite jams, Wiser Time, I always liked it more when Rich “got going” than whatever the other guys were playing.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Also, other than the first cut that doesn't do it for me, I think this is great as well. "Danny" is Dan Stuart from Green on Red and "Dusty" is Steve Wynn from The Dream Syndicate (also feature some other guys from the "Paisley Underground" scene):
Chicago 1 (August 20, 2016)
Chicago 2 (August 22, 2016)
Ft. Worth 1 (September 13, 2023)
Ft. Worth 2 (September 15, 2023)
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EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Also, I put it to the rest on a long drive on Tuesday night… this is a great driving album!
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Chicago 1 (August 20, 2016)
Chicago 2 (August 22, 2016)
Ft. Worth 1 (September 13, 2023)
Ft. Worth 2 (September 15, 2023)
Yep. 25th Anniversary to include the BC cuts played but not on og recording...
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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