Seems like the old saying “if you can’t beat ‘em, join’em” applies here….$$$
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Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
I got a secondary/waitlist code for Tuesday...checked about 45 minutes after it was sent to me (11:45PST) and there were only a handful of tickets left...$750 per ticket is a little rich for my blood. While I would typically light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks to skewer TM for the platinum pricing...I think that these tickets are a way to raise money for the charity...I can't get my nose too far out of joint in this instance.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
sometimes. usually if an artist announces 2 shows in the same town, it's not often there's a 3rd they gets announced. Usually when extra dates get announced its premeditated. They announce 1, it sells out the install put the 2nd on sale. Some artists do a 3rd, but it's rare. I'm guessing Taylor Swift might be one of those exceptions?
There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
I got a secondary/waitlist code for Tuesday...checked about 45 minutes after it was sent to me (11:45PST) and there were only a handful of tickets left...$750 per ticket is a little rich for my blood. While I would typically light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks to skewer TM for the platinum pricing...I think that these tickets are a way to raise money for the charity...I can't get my nose too far out of joint in this instance.
Where are the $750 tickets? For both nights?
We are tempted but guess they will sell out as we didn't win any TenClub tickets or get picked on Verified Fans.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
sometimes. usually if an artist announces 2 shows in the same town, it's not often there's a 3rd they gets announced. Usually when extra dates get announced its premeditated. They announce 1, it sells out the install put the 2nd on sale. Some artists do a 3rd, but it's rare. I'm guessing Taylor Swift might be one of those exceptions?
There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Point is there wasn't enough tickets to meet demand before the show even went on sale to the general public. Its just poor execution
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
I got a secondary/waitlist code for Tuesday...checked about 45 minutes after it was sent to me (11:45PST) and there were only a handful of tickets left...$750 per ticket is a little rich for my blood. While I would typically light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks to skewer TM for the platinum pricing...I think that these tickets are a way to raise money for the charity...I can't get my nose too far out of joint in this instance.
Where are the $750 tickets? For both nights?
We are tempted but guess they will sell out as we didn't win any TenClub tickets or get picked on Verified Fans.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
sometimes. usually if an artist announces 2 shows in the same town, it's not often there's a 3rd they gets announced. Usually when extra dates get announced its premeditated. They announce 1, it sells out the install put the 2nd on sale. Some artists do a 3rd, but it's rare. I'm guessing Taylor Swift might be one of those exceptions?
There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Point is there wasn't enough tickets to meet demand before the show even went on sale to the general public. Its just poor execution
I agree with the latter point. Not sure how it could of been executed better. A bunch of tickets reserved for the big charity donations, a bunch went to 10c, a handful on the the verified fan sales, and apparently 10% for platinum.
The only thing they could of done different is maybe mention how much percentage they reserved for the big charity donations.
I agree the major point is supply seems to be much lower than demand :(
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
sometimes. usually if an artist announces 2 shows in the same town, it's not often there's a 3rd they gets announced. Usually when extra dates get announced its premeditated. They announce 1, it sells out the install put the 2nd on sale. Some artists do a 3rd, but it's rare. I'm guessing Taylor Swift might be one of those exceptions?
There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Point is there wasn't enough tickets to meet demand before the show even went on sale to the general public. Its just poor execution
I agree with the latter point. Not sure how it could of been executed better. A bunch of tickets reserved for the big charity donations, a bunch went to 10c, a handful on the the verified fan sales, and apparently 10% for platinum.
The only thing they could of done different is maybe mention how much percentage they reserved for the big charity donations.
I agree the major point is supply seems to be much lower than demand :(
Either play a larger venue or more nights. No reason paid 10c members should get shut out on these or any EV or PJ show so they can have random VF code and platinum pricing.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
I got a secondary/waitlist code for Tuesday...checked about 45 minutes after it was sent to me (11:45PST) and there were only a handful of tickets left...$750 per ticket is a little rich for my blood. While I would typically light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks to skewer TM for the platinum pricing...I think that these tickets are a way to raise money for the charity...I can't get my nose too far out of joint in this instance.
Where are the $750 tickets? For both nights?
We are tempted but guess they will sell out as we didn't win any TenClub tickets or get picked on Verified Fans.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
sometimes. usually if an artist announces 2 shows in the same town, it's not often there's a 3rd they gets announced. Usually when extra dates get announced its premeditated. They announce 1, it sells out the install put the 2nd on sale. Some artists do a 3rd, but it's rare. I'm guessing Taylor Swift might be one of those exceptions?
There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Point is there wasn't enough tickets to meet demand before the show even went on sale to the general public. Its just poor execution
I agree with the latter point. Not sure how it could of been executed better. A bunch of tickets reserved for the big charity donations, a bunch went to 10c, a handful on the the verified fan sales, and apparently 10% for platinum.
The only thing they could of done different is maybe mention how much percentage they reserved for the big charity donations.
I agree the major point is supply seems to be much lower than demand :(
I think that, because this is essentially a charity event, that all suppositions have to be curtailed. The end result is that they are trying to make as much money for the charity as possible--that isn't done by allowing all Ten Club members access at the "standard" cost. I get it...if they did one night at Key Arena (does that even still exist?) they could have made as much or more--with a commensurate amount of headache and hassle. I just can't generate any ill will for something that is a one-off for charity...I think we're lucky to have had a shot at all-I would have loved to have witnessed the show...but understand
I am all for giving to charity but color me suspicious of Ticketmaster’s “handling fees” anytime they are associated with anything….
I’ve just seen too much accounting lately on the management of charitable events to not be jaded.
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Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
sometimes. usually if an artist announces 2 shows in the same town, it's not often there's a 3rd they gets announced. Usually when extra dates get announced its premeditated. They announce 1, it sells out the install put the 2nd on sale. Some artists do a 3rd, but it's rare. I'm guessing Taylor Swift might be one of those exceptions?
There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Point is there wasn't enough tickets to meet demand before the show even went on sale to the general public. Its just poor execution
I agree with the latter point. Not sure how it could of been executed better. A bunch of tickets reserved for the big charity donations, a bunch went to 10c, a handful on the the verified fan sales, and apparently 10% for platinum.
The only thing they could of done different is maybe mention how much percentage they reserved for the big charity donations.
I agree the major point is supply seems to be much lower than demand :(
Either play a larger venue or more nights. No reason paid 10c members should get shut out on these or any EV or PJ show so they can have random VF code and platinum pricing.
I guess. I mean people get shut out of PJ shows all the time from 10c tickets, and these aren't even PJ shows. I don't think the band or EV has on obligation to play as much as we want them too.. lol. Half the problem is they don't seem to like touring very much, so the demand often outstrips the supply.
I'll concede the 2nd point. It's possible they could of made more for charity if was a larger venue. Might of left some cash for EB on the table.
I kind of like that with the 2018 PJ Tour. It wasn't a big tour, but it was big venues. Went to Seattle and it seemed like everyone who wanted tickets got them. Playing small venues when you're more popular than that, definitely causes issues.
Pretty shitty paid 10c members get denied so they can sell $600 3rd tier platinum seats
In the alternative scenario the platinum tickets still exist but now you're fighting bots for the rest
Or they allot enough tickets to meet 10c demand before the general sale
what if that exceeded the size of the venue? I've never heard of entire concerts being fan club only. also this ones for charity, so it technically results in less $$ for the charity.
Typically if demand is that high, the artist will add additional dates.
sometimes. usually if an artist announces 2 shows in the same town, it's not often there's a 3rd they gets announced. Usually when extra dates get announced its premeditated. They announce 1, it sells out the install put the 2nd on sale. Some artists do a 3rd, but it's rare. I'm guessing Taylor Swift might be one of those exceptions?
There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Point is there wasn't enough tickets to meet demand before the show even went on sale to the general public. Its just poor execution
I agree with the latter point. Not sure how it could of been executed better. A bunch of tickets reserved for the big charity donations, a bunch went to 10c, a handful on the the verified fan sales, and apparently 10% for platinum.
The only thing they could of done different is maybe mention how much percentage they reserved for the big charity donations.
I agree the major point is supply seems to be much lower than demand :(
I get it...if they did one night at Key Arena (does that even still exist?)
They renovated it to unleash the Kraken...it's now Climate Pledge Arena.
I doubt it. With small venues, I imagine he or PJ could play 5 shows and they'd probably sell.
I am wondering when fan2fan might open. Given they aren't currently trying to sell platinum tickets would be great for fans to blow out tickets they changed their minds on (so I can scoop them up)
I doubt it. With small venues, I imagine he or PJ could play 5 shows and they'd probably sell.
I am wondering when fan2fan might open. Given they aren't currently trying to sell platinum tickets would be great for fans to blow out tickets they changed their minds on (so I can scoop them up)
It's a charity event before a concert. It's not a show to cater or meet the supply of his fan base. It's primarily to bring in $$$ for EB Research.
The problem with this statement is the same thing happens during regular Pearl Jam shows. Plenty of people were shut out of Austin yet there seems to be an endless supply of PJ Premium tickets available
It's a charity event before a concert. It's not a show to cater or meet the supply of his fan base. It's primarily to bring in $$$ for EB Research.
The problem with this statement is the same thing happens during regular Pearl Jam shows. Plenty of people were shut out of Austin yet there seems to be an endless supply of PJ Premium tickets available
You are both right. These two charity shows are bad examples of the problem, but the problem very much exists.
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There's plenty of times two shows sell out and artists don't do a 3rd. Or 1 sells out and they don't do a 2nd.
Another unlock code? hmm ...
The only thing they could of done different is maybe mention how much percentage they reserved for the big charity donations.
I agree the major point is supply seems to be much lower than demand :(
I’ve just seen too much accounting lately on the management of charitable events to not be jaded.
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London, ONT 7-16-13 - Wrigley Field 7-19-13
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Tulsa 10-8-14, Lincoln 10-9-14, St. Paul 10-19-14, Milwaukee 10-20-14
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Seattle 8-8-18; 8-10-18, Missoula 8-13-18
Earthlings 2022: Seattle 2-21-222 and 2-22-22, Los Angeles 2-25-22
EV Coeur d’Alene 7-28-23, St Paul 8-31-23 and 9-2-23, Ft Worth 9-13-23 and 9-15-23, EV Seattle 10-23-23 and 10-24-23
I'll concede the 2nd point. It's possible they could of made more for charity if was a larger venue. Might of left some cash for EB on the table.
I kind of like that with the 2018 PJ Tour. It wasn't a big tour, but it was big venues. Went to Seattle and it seemed like everyone who wanted tickets got them. Playing small venues when you're more popular than that, definitely causes issues.
I am wondering when fan2fan might open. Given they aren't currently trying to sell platinum tickets would be great for fans to blow out tickets they changed their minds on (so I can scoop them up)
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
This is correct.