Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

cincybearcat

Forgive me but hard to keep up. Has anyone received Indy lawn yet? 

MK88178

Waiting on indy lawn seats to drop

Jason7192

Pearl34Jam said:

setlist41 said:

Anyone here with Indy being your 1st and 2nd choice and nothing yet?

Selected all Indy options and nothing

Same here. It was my only show selection & I chose all 3 seating options. Still holding out for lawn seats at this point I guess.

jcub

dlesko619 said:

setlist41 said:

Anyone here with Indy being your 1st and 2nd choice and nothing yet?

My wife and I only put in for Indy and nothing yet 

Same here.  Only put in for the Indy show and nothing so far

Sarava

machinehum said:

Sarava said:

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

Drawing each section of each show by priority makes most sense, especially with the announcements coming in waves.
1st St Paul GA, then Chicago GA, St Paul Res, Chicago Res, etc.

Consider these two people's preference sets in order:

Person A: Austin, St. Paul, Noblesville

Person B: Chicago, Austin, St. Paul, Noblesville. 

If Chicago has high demand and Person B does not get it, and Austin, St. Paul, and Noblesville all have enough seats for pretty much everyone in priority 1 and not much else, it's entirely likely that Person A gets all three of their picks, while Person B gets zero because they put Chicago first, maybe because they live in Chicago and would prefer not to travel if possible. Who knows. Personally, I find that an extraordinarily unfair system. I'm not saying a system with some other outcome is necessarily better, but I'm saying this "obvious" "only reasonable" system is not at all that. 

I mean, it's fair ...that's how its worked since I've been in these lottery's since 2013 and we all know it. We know the rules and know whether we want choose to take the risks with more popular shows or not.

Respectfully, the people that hang out on this forum are a minuscule subset of the Ten Club, and what people here think they “know” 1) may not be accurate 2) certainly isn’t known by the very large majority of 10C members not on this forum. 

Not sure how to answer that. If someone cares enough to learn the system, they will. Or they won't.

pjfan2340

setlist41 said:

Anyone here with Indy being your 1st and 2nd choice and nothing yet?

23 year veteran of the ten club and shut out. Had Indy as #1 followed by the Chicago shows.

machinehum

 

tim131

Just got the email for Austin Night 1, my second choice. Got worst seats in the house (Row P 217) but I'm just happy to get in the building. Have a feeling these Austin shows are hot tickets.

JW657002

Tix for Austin #1. First priority. Section 210. At least we are there!

amethgr8

JB23237 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

machinehum said:

Again: nobody here knows how the process is actually happening. Some people have a very strong opinion on how it "should" be happening, and to that, I'll just paste this again: 

For the people who think the "only reasonable" way to do it is to pull from priority 1 for a city, then if there's any left, pull from priority 2, etc. Consider these two people's preference sets in order:

Person A: Austin, St. Paul, Noblesville

Person B: Chicago, Austin, St. Paul, Noblesville. 

If Chicago has high demand and Person B does not get it, and Austin, St. Paul, and Noblesville all have enough seats for pretty much everyone in priority 1 and not much else, it's entirely likely that Person A gets all three of their picks, while Person B gets zero because they put Chicago first, maybe because they live in Chicago and would prefer not to travel if possible. Who knows. Personally, I find that an extraordinarily unfair system. I'm not saying a system with some other outcome is necessarily better, but I'm saying this "obvious" "only reasonable" system is not at all that. 

Person a: CHI 1 and CHI 2
Person b: CHI 2 and CHI 1

B got both and A has neither. Does that make sense to you?

I've seen this with 4 of my friends. It's bonkers

they never pulled A's name from the two pools.

tdamyen2

Sorry, been away from the threads and can’t keep up with the posts. Did side/rear drop for Chicago yet? 

lahren

Wtf!!!

JRDAY89

JRDAY89 said:

1st - Fort Worth 2 - Won GA
2nd - Fort Worth 1 - Won Sec 109 Row 19
3rd - Austin 1 - ?
4th - Austin 2 - Won Sec 207 Row A

519XXX

Update. Austin night 1 email came at 6:39 pm CDT

1st - Fort Worth 2 - Won GA
2nd - Fort Worth 1 - Won Sec 109 Row 19
3rd - Austin 1 - Won Sec 217 Row L
4th - Austin 2 - Won Sec 207 Row A

519XXX

MK88178

setlist41 said:

Anyone here with Indy being your 1st and 2nd choice and nothing yet?

I'm in that boat.  Selected everything.  Come on lawn!!

spankyMP

Austin 1 came in at 7pm est

Jbabbington

Anyone still waiting on Chicago N1 as their #1?

gjackx

Salt_life23 said:

Pearl Jam Tour = Increase of screen time by 200%

Way higher than that!

dlesko619

pjfan2340 said:

setlist41 said:

Anyone here with Indy being your 1st and 2nd choice and nothing yet?

23 year veteran of the ten club and shut out. Had Indy as #1 followed by the Chicago shows.

Do you think it's 100% done? No chance now?

Sarava

tdamyen2 said:

Sorry, been away from the threads and can’t keep up with the posts. Did side/rear drop for Chicago yet? 

It doesnt appear so.

StephanieL19

Ok! Austin N1 just came in at 5:04pm. This was my 2nd choice.

I got tickets for all that I selected, but only GA in FT. WORTH.

Both Austin shows are crapy, up in the 200s.

So now the question is, what is the play for verified fan sale?! Do I try and get good seats for N1 in FT. Worth since  we have GA for N2 Fort Worth. And then just do both FT Worth shows??

Hmmmm

Or do I try an upgrade my Austin shows. Not sure how to do that, but I've heard people say, just get in the building and then try to upgrade.

Or do I go for verified fan in Austin and and see what happens.

Hmmmmm

Decisions.....

Kevinman

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

machinehum said:

Kevinman said:

mace1229 said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed  any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone. 

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise. 

No.  First priority are drawn first.  If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries.  A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win. 

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets. 

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number. 

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important. 

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose. 

Everyone after priority 2 loses 



This is not hard. 

With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.

But that is exactly how it was originally explained. First show drawing- All priority 1 gets in the lotto before priority 2, and so on.
If there are more tickets than those with priority 1, then all who picked priority 1 should have tickets.
The 8 other shows have no impact on the show being drawn, the lottery doesn’t need to reflect 9 events with subsets.

This

Source for where it was explained that way, other than a post by a random on this forum or reddit? 

Source that says it’s not this way?

lolwut? Y'all are making the assertion, not me. I'm not interested in trying to prove a negative. 

It seems like you are

It seems more like I’m pushing back on people making unfounded assertions that they’re using to justify screaming that the fix is in over a ticket lottery. 

Ok, all I’m saying is I agree with their theory on how the lottery works, the same as it did in the past.

whoyouare72

BloodMeridian80 said:

machinehum said:

Again: nobody here knows how the process is actually happening. Some people have a very strong opinion on how it "should" be happening, and to that, I'll just paste this again: 

For the people who think the "only reasonable" way to do it is to pull from priority 1 for a city, then if there's any left, pull from priority 2, etc. Consider these two people's preference sets in order:

Person A: Austin, St. Paul, Noblesville

Person B: Chicago, Austin, St. Paul, Noblesville. 

If Chicago has high demand and Person B does not get it, and Austin, St. Paul, and Noblesville all have enough seats for pretty much everyone in priority 1 and not much else, it's entirely likely that Person A gets all three of their picks, while Person B gets zero because they put Chicago first, maybe because they live in Chicago and would prefer not to travel if possible. Who knows. Personally, I find that an extraordinarily unfair system. I'm not saying a system with some other outcome is necessarily better, but I'm saying this "obvious" "only reasonable" system is not at all that. 

Person a: CHI 1 and CHI 2
Person b: CHI 2 and CHI 1

B got both and A has neither. Does that make sense to you?

Yes, person B won the lottery and person A did not. Proves that priorities only matter after being selected as a winner in the lottery.

Hurls15

Frustrating to see the number of Chicago tickets on StubHub. Even a few GAs.  Also lots of 300s.  I don't think I have seen any 300 level seats awarded in the lottery. 

solace

Go Animal said:

What shows do you want?

I only put in for St. Paul, was at least hoping to get one via 10c.

Also annoyed that seemingly by not chosing GA/Res and Res options I probably screwed myself, wish that was made more clear in their initial email/on the website rather than just a post on the forum. 

Eddieredder

machinehum said:

jimjam1982 said:

cblock4life said:

Kevinman said:

MYM said:

so if someone gets Austin Night 1 and it was their fourth choice.... and it was my second choice, it stands to reason that i should be getting tickets, right?

Logically yes…..actually…..no idea.

If your name doesn’t get randomly pulled then it doesn’t matter what priority you listed or your seniority.  Your name never getting pulled means no tickets. 

Once again. This is fake news. Priority gets first consideration. It's on the FAQ. 

NO IT ISN'T. I quoted the FAQ last time you said this! Again: "To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority." 

"While still considering show priority" is not REMOTELY similar to "Priority gets first consideration." Not remotely!

Have to agree here. This is why people with lower priority are getting picked. 

MK88178

Jbabbington said:

Anyone still waiting on Chicago N1 as their #1?

My buddy is.

JB23237

Maybe they cancelled the chicago drop because of tickets showing up on stubhub

mccartyk25

setlist41 said:

Anyone here with Indy being your 1st and 2nd choice and nothing yet?

Yes

Sarava

Here's another question - did anyone select side/back for Chicago, and get GA or Reserved already? That's my new theory, that they dumped all of us that picked side/rear (in our minds as a backup) in to those seats. We'll see soon I guess 

solace

ssommers21 said

honestly........ you are batting 85% putting in for 7 shows getting 6.   I'd much rather see someone go 2 of 2.  absolutely crazy

I hear ya. 😔