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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,732
    From WaPo:

    The shooting in Allen is the third mass killing recorded in Texas so far this year. In 2022, Texas recorded six mass killings by gun — the most of any single state.

    Texas, the state where they like to do everything big.  Their motto should be, "We will not be out done!"
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,300
    I don’t care if the band decides to play these states with terrible gun laws! It’s up to individuals like us to boycott states that don’t give a crap about these massacres, that’s how I’m going to do my part 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,732
    Besides mass shootings, other forms of violence are happening in Texas.  Not that everyone is bad or evil there (of course not), but Texas is full of hatred and sickness and is one state I will never set foot in, never spend one dime in.

    Texas: police name suspect after eight killed by truck plowing into crowd

    George Alvarez accused of injuring 10 others after SUV drove into migrant crowd outside bus stop in border city of Brownsville


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/08/cow-deaths-murders-texas

    Who is behind a string of grisly cow deaths in Texas?

    Authorities are stumped after seven cows are mutilated in three counties within weeks

    Their tongues were cut off, but there was no spilled blood. No signs of struggle. No footprints or tire tracks were found. Investigators were stumped: who is going on a murderous rampage of cows in Texas, and how are there no clues surrounding their deaths?


    Texas is one state I will never set foot in.






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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    What'd I miss? 

    Lizzo dances with drag queens at Knoxville show in protest of Tennessee drag ban

    "What people are doing in Tennessee is giving hope," Lizzo said onstage.


    https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/lizzo-dances-drag-queens-knoxville-show-protest-tennessee-drag-ban/story?id=98799544 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    LOL 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,544
    edited May 2023
    I hope Eddie talks a lot about the right to choose at every single Texas show... Hey, maybe that's why they're going there, LOL.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    assuming is the dominant trait of a true fascist? news to me
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    PJ are hypocrites.  That's okay.  Most people are.  They should not have boycotted Raleigh, which was a slippery slope.  Charlotte actually did a progressive thing by passing the bathroom bill but the heavily gerrymandered state legislature wrote the bad bill in response.  Its a purple state and Raleigh is very blue.  PJ accomplished nothing towards their political objective by canceling the show, although it did hurt many fans and businesses (many of which support progressive values).   It was a mistake even if PJ nor some of their die hard fans that excuse PJ no matter what will never admit.   It would be a bigger mistake if they chose to boycott many other places.   2 wrongs don't make a right.  Even after the Raleigh show, PJ has played everywhere from Tennessee, Lousianna, South America, Italy, etc.   They are hypocrites, yes.   There are worse things in the world.  I only wish they would have played Raleigh again since then.  Raleigh deserves a rocking make-up show.   
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    edited May 2023
    So after they convert your kids, they can molest them and then give them last rites. All in school. How about keeping your religion away from my kid? Or providing mental health counseling? 

    Texas legislature passes bill allowing chaplains in public schools

    The Texas legislature has passed a bill that would allow schools to employ chaplains in addition to school counselors, with Republicans overriding objections by Democrats to send the legislation to the governor’s desk.

    The bill would permit school districts to hire chaplains who, unlike school counselors, are not required to be certified by the State Board for Educator Certification. A version of the bill already sailed through the state Senate last month, and the Texas House passed an amended version on Tuesday evening in a vote that appeared to fall largely along party lines, with 89 voting in favor and 58 opposed.

    Conservative groups such as Texas Values Action have voiced support for the bill, and the National School Chaplain Association, an arm of the Christian group Mission Generation, testified in support during committee meetings last month.

    Rocky Malloy, head of the NSCA, argued during his testimony that the bill would increase school safety and not infringe on the religious beliefs of students, saying, “Chaplains operate within an individual’s belief and convictions — they are not working to convert people to religion.”

    But Malloy’s organization has suggested otherwise in the past, and critics of the bill argue it could lead to proselytization and erode the separation of church and state.

    “I worry that this bill will lead to Christian nationalists infiltrating our public schools and indoctrinating our students,” Democratic Rep. James Talarico, a Presbyterian seminarian, told Religion News Service in a phone interview from the state House floor on Tuesday.

    Texas Senate Democrats made similar arguments during debate over the bill last month, and multiple Democratic House members made efforts to amend it — with mixed results. Talarico sought to bar chaplains from proselytizing and require parental consent before meeting with students, and Rep. Toni Rose sought to limit the bill to schools in counties with populations of less than 150,000. Separately, Rep. Gene Wu attempted to bar the use of public funds and require schools to provide a religious leader of a different faith for students who request them.

    All of those efforts failed, although lawmakers did amend the bill to prohibit registered sex offenders from serving as chaplains, to institute background checks, and to require those serving in the role to be endorsed by an organization recognized by the U.S. Defense Department, the Federal Bureau of Prisons or the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.

    Imelda Mejia, a spokesperson for Texas Freedom Network, which has been critical of the bill, expressed concern about the influence of the NSCA. The website for the group’s parent organization, Mission Generation, recently began redirecting to the NSCA’s website, but archived versions from last year listed a desire to “influence those in education until the saving grace of Jesus becomes well-known, and students develop a personal relationship with Him.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/05/11/texas-legislature-chaplains-public-schools/

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,732

    Some mug shot.  What is he doing, looking to God for redemption?  Sheesh.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
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    Based on replies to the first tweet I saw about that, I am doubtful any group of 12 people will vote to convict him.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I mean, come on.  THIS was 3 days ago.

    Greg Abbott Replaces Texas Attorney General Without Comment On Ken Paxton

    Paxton was suspended when the state House voted to impeach him this weekend.


    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ken-paxton-greg-abbott_n_64762009e4b045ce24852028

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    ikiT said:
    I mean, come on.  THIS was 3 days ago.

    Greg Abbott Replaces Texas Attorney General Without Comment On Ken Paxton

    Paxton was suspended when the state House voted to impeach him this weekend.


    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ken-paxton-greg-abbott_n_64762009e4b045ce24852028
    Pretty fascist, eh?
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    The same Kenny Paxton who more than likely "PRE" - found Trizzy 2 million votes in Harris County?  As COVID raged?

    Come on fellas, give me a break.

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    Texas AG Says Trump Would've 'Lost' State If It Hadn't Blocked Mail-in Ballots Applications Being Sent Out

    BY JASON LEMON ON 6/5/21 AT 3:59 PM EDT

    "If we'd lost Harris County—Trump won by 620,000 votes in Texas. Harris County mail-in ballots that they wanted to send out were 2.5 million, those were all illegal and we were able to stop every one of them," Paxton told former Trump adviser Steve Bannon during the latter's War Room podcast...
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    This guy?  (and his wife...who as a Texas State senator, will sit on the jury for the impeachment).
    The same guy who was WAY too involved in LOSING all those court cases after the 2020 election? 

    Plot twist, he's not getting impeached for that.
    ADULTERY is one of the charges.


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    FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,187
    Thank you, PJ! I hope everyone who traveled enjoyed their experience here.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    FiveBelow said:
    Thank you, PJ! I hope everyone who traveled enjoyed their experience here.
    Both Austin shows were fantastic. Austin is a really great city, too, though I don’t understand how people deal with the heat (and we just missed the truly nasty heat).
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    FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,187
    OnWis97 said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Thank you, PJ! I hope everyone who traveled enjoyed their experience here.
    Both Austin shows were fantastic. Austin is a really great city, too, though I don’t understand how people deal with the heat (and we just missed the truly nasty heat).
    These shows happening in the weeks prior would have been brutal. Glad the weather cooperated.
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