The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

kmcmanus

Remember that Long Way and The Haves were released as standalone singles before Earthling was announced. Album presales didn’t go up until Brother the Cloud. So a single could absolutely come ahead of the announcement.

Lost In Ohio

kmcmanus said:

Remember that Long Way and The Haves were released as standalone singles before Earthling was announced. Album presales didn’t go up until Brother the Cloud. So a single could absolutely come ahead of the announcement.

Wouldn't they want a single out for radio that'll soon forget new PJ exists because they're playing early 90s PJ and modern, heavy stuff more closer to metal?

And "yes" to all the stuff about NHL and NBA playoffs.

BF25394

Earthling precedent notwithstanding, it would surprise me if they released a single without announcing the album that it's from. It would be marketing malpractice. Of course, they did exactly that with "Can't Deny Me," so anything's possible.

Or maybe they'll announce the new single is from the forthcoming album, and then it will turn out that the album is titled forthcoming and "Can't Deny Me" will also be on it. That would be some retconning right there.

Mattay

When this thread reaches page 200, do we get a prize?

BF25394

Mattay said:

When this thread reaches page 200, do we get a prize?

Tell them what they've won:

A BRAND NEW PEARL JAM SINGLE!!!

SHZA

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

Zod

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

raindog80

February 13th Video Theory. 

deb1211

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

MM70435

SHZA said:

BF25394 said:

iwasatpj20 said:

The Bulls never won anything without Krause, before and after him.  Rebuilding since 1998

I'm not here to cast aspersions on Jerry Krause, who deserves his share of credit for the success that occurred on his watch, but this statement is also true if you substitute "Jordan" for "Krause."

Or Pippen. Or Phil.

But Jordan was going to win championships no matter who was running the team. (Though maybe not 6 straight in the years he played). It's far less certain Krause would have won any without MJ 

The Bulls did not win 6 straight in the years Jordan played.  He was on the floor when Orlando beat them in 6 games in 95.  People sometimes think that does not count because he was rusty due to the layoff.  He was still good enough to score 55 against the Knicks at MSG that same year.  That 95 Bulls team that lost with Jordan on the floor was a little soft down low.  That team was post Horace Grant and pre Dennis Rodman.  They had no answer for Shaq without either one of those guys.  Grant was actually on the Orlando team that beat the Bulls with Jordan on the floor.

darwinstheory

Well things sure got interesting yesterday. Like a whole new level of excitement for the dates.

SHZA

MM70435 said:

SHZA said:

BF25394 said:

iwasatpj20 said:

The Bulls never won anything without Krause, before and after him.  Rebuilding since 1998

I'm not here to cast aspersions on Jerry Krause, who deserves his share of credit for the success that occurred on his watch, but this statement is also true if you substitute "Jordan" for "Krause."

Or Pippen. Or Phil.

But Jordan was going to win championships no matter who was running the team. (Though maybe not 6 straight in the years he played). It's far less certain Krause would have won any without MJ 

The Bulls did not win 6 straight in the years Jordan played.  He was on the floor when Orlando beat them in 6 games in 95.  People sometimes think that does not count because he was rusty due to the layoff.  He was still good enough to score 55 against the Knicks at MSG that same year.  That 95 Bulls team that lost with Jordan on the floor was a little soft down low.  That team was post Horace Grant and pre Dennis Rodman.  They had no answer for Shaq without either one of those guys.  Grant was actually on the Orlando team that beat the Bulls with Jordan on the floor.

I know, but that wasn't really the point. Anyway, I wouldn't say that year doesn't count but I don't think you can say the layoff wasn't a factor. Despite the double nickel at MSG, Jordan's scoring and FG percentage were significantly below his typical career numbers. But even with the rust, the Bulls went 13-4 with Jordan back in the lineup after going 34-31 without him. So if he plays the whole year, they would have been higher than 5th in the east, which changes the complexion of the playoffs. With home court and MJ hitting on all cylinders maybe they beat Orlando even without Rodman. Who knows . . .  

SHZA

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible (though not inevitable). 

steven87

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

just_one

Page 200!!!

whats the prize? 

woolyman

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

RatherStarved

just_one said:

Page 200!!!

whats the prize? 

Page 201 

steven87

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

I’m also planning on traveling a long distance to see these shows (from NJ), so it wouldn’t be ideal if there was a last minute conflict and I had to change the dates of my trip. Based on the above though, I don’t think round 1 not going to a game 7 would remove any potential conflict because presumably all of the round 2 matchups will begin on or around the same date, regardless of when each 1st round matchup finishes up (e.g., some matchups may finish up in 4-5 games, while others proceed to 6-7 games). I’m sure the band/promoter must be aware of this possibility though, so let’s see what happens when the dates come out. 

SHZA

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

RatherStarved

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.