The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

deb1211

aisleseats said:

on2legs said:

You know the fan base is getting old when they can't make it through the show without a bathroom break!

You greatly underestimate the amount of beer I consume. 

Hahaha. I barely drink anything so I can make it the whole show with or without evenflow or buckle up 

LaFleur

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

JimmyV

2010 TBD Flashbacks

BF25394

Lost In Ohio said:

BF25394 said:

Earthling precedent notwithstanding, it would surprise me if they released a single without announcing the album that it's from. It would be marketing malpractice. Of course, they did exactly that with "Can't Deny Me," so anything's possible.

Or maybe they'll announce the new single is from the forthcoming album, and then it will turn out that the album is titled forthcoming and "Can't Deny Me" will also be on it. That would be some retconning right there.

Ummm... As I think you said in your second paragraph, Can't Deny Me was supposed to be on something released in 2018. Obviously, that never happened.

...and honestly, it turned out ok. A 2019 tour for a new album would have had to been paused until late 2021 at the earliest.

It's good to see that my post was completely lost on you.

BF25394

LaFleur said:

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

It will never be the Leafs' year as long as Pajama Boy is on the team.

RatherStarved

LaFleur said:

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

I recall, I was there N1 and thanks to the reschedule also N2.  That was when the Raptors were a playoff team but pre-Kawhi.  There won’t be any Raptors playoffs this year.  

I am a Leafs fan and I want to believe in the team but something isn’t right with them.  It’s kind of their energy I think.  When I watch a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit or Montreal, none of which have the same high end talent as the Leafs, those teams all seem hungrier and more into the games.  And those aren’t even the best teams in the division like Boston and Florida.  I think the suffering is going to continue and that includes me.  But hey, who needs hockey when there’s a PJ spring tour.  

UseUrIllusions

RatherStarved said:

LaFleur said:

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

I recall, I was there N1 and thanks to the reschedule also N2.  That was when the Raptors were a playoff team but pre-Kawhi.  There won’t be any Raptors playoffs this year.  

I am a Leafs fan and I want to believe in the team but something isn’t right with them.  It’s kind of their energy I think.  When I watch a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit or Montreal, none of which have the same high end talent as the Leafs, those teams all seem hungrier and more into the games.  And those aren’t even the best teams in the division like Boston and Florida.  I think the suffering is going to continue and that includes me.  But hey, who needs hockey when there’s a PJ spring tour.  

With the Habs you don’t need talent, just passion that the leafs clearly lack! 😉

RatherStarved

UseUrIllusions said:

RatherStarved said:

LaFleur said:

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

I recall, I was there N1 and thanks to the reschedule also N2.  That was when the Raptors were a playoff team but pre-Kawhi.  There won’t be any Raptors playoffs this year.  

I am a Leafs fan and I want to believe in the team but something isn’t right with them.  It’s kind of their energy I think.  When I watch a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit or Montreal, none of which have the same high end talent as the Leafs, those teams all seem hungrier and more into the games.  And those aren’t even the best teams in the division like Boston and Florida.  I think the suffering is going to continue and that includes me.  But hey, who needs hockey when there’s a PJ spring tour.  

With the Habs you don’t need talent, just passion that the leafs clearly lack! 😉

Yeah passion, a similar concept as energy.  Obviously you also need talent.  Not to mention a good goalie.  

Bentleyspop

aisleseats said:

deb1211 said:

opsopcopolis said:

Zod said:

kmcmanus said:

RatherStarved said:

mpedone said:

So, the consensus is that there will be some ballpark shows, right? What are people's thoughts on the recent trend of shorter shows with a stripped-down five songs to start. Do they continue that trend, or do they try to do something bigger for those shows?

Great question.  A 30+ song set would be a great feature of a ballpark show to offset the ballparkness.  

I don’t believe the 30+ is ever coming back. It was clearly not a popular decision with the fanbase, and as soon as they play even one long one again the questions start back up. I think it’s gone for good.
if they wanted to prove me wrong though I have a Indy ticket and we’re thinking about Philly

Yah, that was always going to be the impact of going to the 3 hour+ barn burners at every show, at some point (most likely due to age) they would have to dial it back at some point.

I'm glad we got that era, I really enjoyed the shows I saw in '13, '16 and '18.   I'm a little bummed it's most likely over, but I understand not everyone in the band ages at the same pace, so they need to do to insure all 5 to 7 members can keep touring (I'd rather they play 2 to 2.5 hour shows, then no shows, it's still an amazing couple of hours).  

tbh i prefer the 2 night stands with vastly different setlists. More room for actual flexibility

Having only 1 repeat between 2 shows in Austin was fabulous 

I kept waiting for Even Flow because I really had to pee. But it never came. I ended up having to stand in line during the encore break like a rookie. 

Standing in line to buy $12-16 beer only to stand in another line to pee it out and miss multiple songs is a rookie move.

deb1211

RatherStarved said:

UseUrIllusions said:

RatherStarved said:

LaFleur said:

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

I recall, I was there N1 and thanks to the reschedule also N2.  That was when the Raptors were a playoff team but pre-Kawhi.  There won’t be any Raptors playoffs this year.  

I am a Leafs fan and I want to believe in the team but something isn’t right with them.  It’s kind of their energy I think.  When I watch a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit or Montreal, none of which have the same high end talent as the Leafs, those teams all seem hungrier and more into the games.  And those aren’t even the best teams in the division like Boston and Florida.  I think the suffering is going to continue and that includes me.  But hey, who needs hockey when there’s a PJ spring tour.  

With the Habs you don’t need talent, just passion that the leafs clearly lack! 😉

Yeah passion, a similar concept as energy.  Obviously you also need talent.  Not to mention a good goalie.  

I tried to tell u guys about Sammy

Of course we have a goalie I wouldn't mind seeing go elsewhere..u want Kuemper? Lol

aisleseats

Bentleyspop said:

aisleseats said:

deb1211 said:

opsopcopolis said:

Zod said:

kmcmanus said:

RatherStarved said:

mpedone said:

So, the consensus is that there will be some ballpark shows, right? What are people's thoughts on the recent trend of shorter shows with a stripped-down five songs to start. Do they continue that trend, or do they try to do something bigger for those shows?

Great question.  A 30+ song set would be a great feature of a ballpark show to offset the ballparkness.  

I don’t believe the 30+ is ever coming back. It was clearly not a popular decision with the fanbase, and as soon as they play even one long one again the questions start back up. I think it’s gone for good.
if they wanted to prove me wrong though I have a Indy ticket and we’re thinking about Philly

Yah, that was always going to be the impact of going to the 3 hour+ barn burners at every show, at some point (most likely due to age) they would have to dial it back at some point.

I'm glad we got that era, I really enjoyed the shows I saw in '13, '16 and '18.   I'm a little bummed it's most likely over, but I understand not everyone in the band ages at the same pace, so they need to do to insure all 5 to 7 members can keep touring (I'd rather they play 2 to 2.5 hour shows, then no shows, it's still an amazing couple of hours).  

tbh i prefer the 2 night stands with vastly different setlists. More room for actual flexibility

Having only 1 repeat between 2 shows in Austin was fabulous 

I kept waiting for Even Flow because I really had to pee. But it never came. I ended up having to stand in line during the encore break like a rookie. 

Standing in line to buy $12-16 beer only to stand in another line to pee it out and miss multiple songs is a rookie move.

Says someone who clearly was not at St Paul N1 last year. That double whammy of 7 o'clock/even flow was the perfect opportunity to do both...with plenty of time to spare to make it back for Mike's solo.  #promove

Lerxst1992

Bentleyspop said:

aisleseats said:

deb1211 said:

opsopcopolis said:

Zod said:

kmcmanus said:

RatherStarved said:

mpedone said:

So, the consensus is that there will be some ballpark shows, right? What are people's thoughts on the recent trend of shorter shows with a stripped-down five songs to start. Do they continue that trend, or do they try to do something bigger for those shows?

Great question.  A 30+ song set would be a great feature of a ballpark show to offset the ballparkness.  

I don’t believe the 30+ is ever coming back. It was clearly not a popular decision with the fanbase, and as soon as they play even one long one again the questions start back up. I think it’s gone for good.
if they wanted to prove me wrong though I have a Indy ticket and we’re thinking about Philly

Yah, that was always going to be the impact of going to the 3 hour+ barn burners at every show, at some point (most likely due to age) they would have to dial it back at some point.

I'm glad we got that era, I really enjoyed the shows I saw in '13, '16 and '18.   I'm a little bummed it's most likely over, but I understand not everyone in the band ages at the same pace, so they need to do to insure all 5 to 7 members can keep touring (I'd rather they play 2 to 2.5 hour shows, then no shows, it's still an amazing couple of hours).  

tbh i prefer the 2 night stands with vastly different setlists. More room for actual flexibility

Having only 1 repeat between 2 shows in Austin was fabulous 

I kept waiting for Even Flow because I really had to pee. But it never came. I ended up having to stand in line during the encore break like a rookie. 

Standing in line to buy $12-16 beer only to stand in another line to pee it out and miss multiple songs is a rookie move.

Isn’t that why the almighty created Stoli?

BF25394

aisleseats said:

Bentleyspop said:

aisleseats said:

deb1211 said:

opsopcopolis said:

Zod said:

kmcmanus said:

RatherStarved said:

mpedone said:

So, the consensus is that there will be some ballpark shows, right? What are people's thoughts on the recent trend of shorter shows with a stripped-down five songs to start. Do they continue that trend, or do they try to do something bigger for those shows?

Great question.  A 30+ song set would be a great feature of a ballpark show to offset the ballparkness.  

I don’t believe the 30+ is ever coming back. It was clearly not a popular decision with the fanbase, and as soon as they play even one long one again the questions start back up. I think it’s gone for good.
if they wanted to prove me wrong though I have a Indy ticket and we’re thinking about Philly

Yah, that was always going to be the impact of going to the 3 hour+ barn burners at every show, at some point (most likely due to age) they would have to dial it back at some point.

I'm glad we got that era, I really enjoyed the shows I saw in '13, '16 and '18.   I'm a little bummed it's most likely over, but I understand not everyone in the band ages at the same pace, so they need to do to insure all 5 to 7 members can keep touring (I'd rather they play 2 to 2.5 hour shows, then no shows, it's still an amazing couple of hours).  

tbh i prefer the 2 night stands with vastly different setlists. More room for actual flexibility

Having only 1 repeat between 2 shows in Austin was fabulous 

I kept waiting for Even Flow because I really had to pee. But it never came. I ended up having to stand in line during the encore break like a rookie. 

Standing in line to buy $12-16 beer only to stand in another line to pee it out and miss multiple songs is a rookie move.

Says someone who clearly was not at St Paul N1 last year. That double whammy of 7 o'clock/even flow was the perfect opportunity to do both...with plenty of time to spare to make it back for Mike's solo.  #promove

You guys are missing out by bailing on "Seven O'Clock." The way it builds to the crescendo was consistently one of the emotional highlights of the Gigaton material in the 2022 live shows. Much to be done, indeed.

Bentleyspop

Lerxst1992 said:

Bentleyspop said:

aisleseats said:

deb1211 said:

opsopcopolis said:

Zod said:

kmcmanus said:

RatherStarved said:

mpedone said:

So, the consensus is that there will be some ballpark shows, right? What are people's thoughts on the recent trend of shorter shows with a stripped-down five songs to start. Do they continue that trend, or do they try to do something bigger for those shows?

Great question.  A 30+ song set would be a great feature of a ballpark show to offset the ballparkness.  

I don’t believe the 30+ is ever coming back. It was clearly not a popular decision with the fanbase, and as soon as they play even one long one again the questions start back up. I think it’s gone for good.
if they wanted to prove me wrong though I have a Indy ticket and we’re thinking about Philly

Yah, that was always going to be the impact of going to the 3 hour+ barn burners at every show, at some point (most likely due to age) they would have to dial it back at some point.

I'm glad we got that era, I really enjoyed the shows I saw in '13, '16 and '18.   I'm a little bummed it's most likely over, but I understand not everyone in the band ages at the same pace, so they need to do to insure all 5 to 7 members can keep touring (I'd rather they play 2 to 2.5 hour shows, then no shows, it's still an amazing couple of hours).  

tbh i prefer the 2 night stands with vastly different setlists. More room for actual flexibility

Having only 1 repeat between 2 shows in Austin was fabulous 

I kept waiting for Even Flow because I really had to pee. But it never came. I ended up having to stand in line during the encore break like a rookie. 

Standing in line to buy $12-16 beer only to stand in another line to pee it out and miss multiple songs is a rookie move.

Isn’t that why the almighty created Stoli?

No
It's why she created plastic 50ml bottles

yosi

deb1211 said:

aisleseats said:

on2legs said:

You know the fan base is getting old when they can't make it through the show without a bathroom break!

You greatly underestimate the amount of beer I consume. 

Hahaha. I barely drink anything so I can make it the whole show with or without evenflow or buckle up 

That’s my move as well. And I still go, just to be extra good, after the opener 😝

steven87

BF25394 said:

aisleseats said:

Bentleyspop said:

aisleseats said:

deb1211 said:

opsopcopolis said:

Zod said:

kmcmanus said:

RatherStarved said:

mpedone said:

So, the consensus is that there will be some ballpark shows, right? What are people's thoughts on the recent trend of shorter shows with a stripped-down five songs to start. Do they continue that trend, or do they try to do something bigger for those shows?

Great question.  A 30+ song set would be a great feature of a ballpark show to offset the ballparkness.  

I don’t believe the 30+ is ever coming back. It was clearly not a popular decision with the fanbase, and as soon as they play even one long one again the questions start back up. I think it’s gone for good.
if they wanted to prove me wrong though I have a Indy ticket and we’re thinking about Philly

Yah, that was always going to be the impact of going to the 3 hour+ barn burners at every show, at some point (most likely due to age) they would have to dial it back at some point.

I'm glad we got that era, I really enjoyed the shows I saw in '13, '16 and '18.   I'm a little bummed it's most likely over, but I understand not everyone in the band ages at the same pace, so they need to do to insure all 5 to 7 members can keep touring (I'd rather they play 2 to 2.5 hour shows, then no shows, it's still an amazing couple of hours).  

tbh i prefer the 2 night stands with vastly different setlists. More room for actual flexibility

Having only 1 repeat between 2 shows in Austin was fabulous 

I kept waiting for Even Flow because I really had to pee. But it never came. I ended up having to stand in line during the encore break like a rookie. 

Standing in line to buy $12-16 beer only to stand in another line to pee it out and miss multiple songs is a rookie move.

Says someone who clearly was not at St Paul N1 last year. That double whammy of 7 o'clock/even flow was the perfect opportunity to do both...with plenty of time to spare to make it back for Mike's solo.  #promove

You guys are missing out by bailing on "Seven O'Clock." The way it builds to the crescendo was consistently one of the emotional highlights of the Gigaton material in the 2022 live shows. Much to be done, indeed.

I couldn’t agree more. Definitely one of the best live numbers off of Gigaton IMO. I thought live it was on a whole nother level in terms of the intensity and emotional weight as compared to on the record. Glad I was fortunate enough to see it a bunch of times on the Gigaton tour. I’m guessing it’ll be a rarity going forward. 

RatherStarved

steven87 said:

BF25394 said:

aisleseats said:

Bentleyspop said:

aisleseats said:

deb1211 said:

opsopcopolis said:

Zod said:

kmcmanus said:

RatherStarved said:

mpedone said:

So, the consensus is that there will be some ballpark shows, right? What are people's thoughts on the recent trend of shorter shows with a stripped-down five songs to start. Do they continue that trend, or do they try to do something bigger for those shows?

Great question.  A 30+ song set would be a great feature of a ballpark show to offset the ballparkness.  

I don’t believe the 30+ is ever coming back. It was clearly not a popular decision with the fanbase, and as soon as they play even one long one again the questions start back up. I think it’s gone for good.
if they wanted to prove me wrong though I have a Indy ticket and we’re thinking about Philly

Yah, that was always going to be the impact of going to the 3 hour+ barn burners at every show, at some point (most likely due to age) they would have to dial it back at some point.

I'm glad we got that era, I really enjoyed the shows I saw in '13, '16 and '18.   I'm a little bummed it's most likely over, but I understand not everyone in the band ages at the same pace, so they need to do to insure all 5 to 7 members can keep touring (I'd rather they play 2 to 2.5 hour shows, then no shows, it's still an amazing couple of hours).  

tbh i prefer the 2 night stands with vastly different setlists. More room for actual flexibility

Having only 1 repeat between 2 shows in Austin was fabulous 

I kept waiting for Even Flow because I really had to pee. But it never came. I ended up having to stand in line during the encore break like a rookie. 

Standing in line to buy $12-16 beer only to stand in another line to pee it out and miss multiple songs is a rookie move.

Says someone who clearly was not at St Paul N1 last year. That double whammy of 7 o'clock/even flow was the perfect opportunity to do both...with plenty of time to spare to make it back for Mike's solo.  #promove

You guys are missing out by bailing on "Seven O'Clock." The way it builds to the crescendo was consistently one of the emotional highlights of the Gigaton material in the 2022 live shows. Much to be done, indeed.

I couldn’t agree more. Definitely one of the best live numbers off of Gigaton IMO. I thought live it was on a whole nother level in terms of the intensity and emotional weight as compared to on the record. Glad I was fortunate enough to see it a bunch of times on the Gigaton tour. I’m guessing it’ll be a rarity going forward. 

One can hope! 

GhostChile

Seven o clock and Even Flow are in my top 10 songs ever, so please all of you go to the bathroom and leave me alone during those songs.

RatherStarved

deb1211 said:

RatherStarved said:

UseUrIllusions said:

RatherStarved said:

LaFleur said:

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

I recall, I was there N1 and thanks to the reschedule also N2.  That was when the Raptors were a playoff team but pre-Kawhi.  There won’t be any Raptors playoffs this year.  

I am a Leafs fan and I want to believe in the team but something isn’t right with them.  It’s kind of their energy I think.  When I watch a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit or Montreal, none of which have the same high end talent as the Leafs, those teams all seem hungrier and more into the games.  And those aren’t even the best teams in the division like Boston and Florida.  I think the suffering is going to continue and that includes me.  But hey, who needs hockey when there’s a PJ spring tour.  

With the Habs you don’t need talent, just passion that the leafs clearly lack! 😉

Yeah passion, a similar concept as energy.  Obviously you also need talent.  Not to mention a good goalie.  

I tried to tell u guys about Sammy

Of course we have a goalie I wouldn't mind seeing go elsewhere..u want Kuemper? Lol

They didn’t ask my opinion.  

deb1211

RatherStarved said:

deb1211 said:

RatherStarved said:

UseUrIllusions said:

RatherStarved said:

LaFleur said:

RatherStarved said:

SHZA said:

woolyman said:

steven87 said:

SHZA said:

deb1211 said:

Zod said:

SHZA said:

steven87 said:

I’m considering doing the Vancouver shows (assuming the dates are correct), but I’m a little concerned about a last-minute date change due to the NHL playoffs. Anyone have any thoughts/insight on this?

That's been known to happen. Playoffs usually take priority. A recent example is GnR having to move their show from the Diamondbacks stadium last fall. 

Three straight days off at a venue during the playoffs isn't unlikely because they will have away games for part of each series. But whether they'd be home or away on certain dates depends on seedlings and when each series starts which is tough to predict at this point. 

This occurred to me about the Vancouver dates too.   They must be banking on the 'nucks sucking again, but they do have a decent regular season record thus far.  How deep in the playoffs do you need to got to make it to early may?  2nd round?

Unless the shows are at the pacific coliseum, which would kind of suck.  Rogers Arena is a really good concert arena, there's a reason they replace the coliseum

Second round is about right. Nhl season ends April 18. Vancouver is best team in league right now. They would have to have a pretty good collapse to not make playoffs at this point. Kraken are fighting for a playoff spot but until yesterday had been rolling.

Last year the regular season ended on April 14. The first round started on April 17 with game 7s (if necessary) on April 30 or May 1.  1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2023-stanley-cup-playoffs-first-round-schedule-343562642. The second round then began on May 2 and 3. https://www.nhl.com/news/games-1-2-stanley-cup-playoffs-2nd-round-344050944.

If the Canucks keep rolling and win the division they'd be home if there's a game 7 in round 1 and for the first two games of round 2. Since the regular season ends on April 18 this year, adding four days to last year's playoff schedule would put a game 7 on May 4 or 5, game 1 of round 2 on May 6 or 7. So it certainly looks like a conflict is possible. 

Interesting. Appreciate the insight. I’m guessing (hoping) if a conflict were to occur, the show(s) would only be moved by a day or two. Decisions, decisions …

Very interesting... if round 1 doesn't go to a game 7, does this remove any potential conflict?  Also, based upon your work, the NHL could do a May 5 or May 7 in your scenario... which would also not conflict, although a May 5 would be torture for stage take down/setup...etc.  These are the shows I would be blessed to see... and travel to (a distance).......  hopefully they are waiting longer / taking their time to help ensure no conflict.

If there is no game 7, that would certainly reduce the chance of a conflict, assuming my guess about the playoff schedule is accurate. And most first round series don't go 7. But we might not know until a few days before when the series ends.   

Come to Toronto! Raptors aren’t a playoff team and Leafs have won one round in 20 years.  

In 2016, the 2nd night in Toronto got moved a day to accommodate a Raptors playoff game.  So plenty of precedent for a show one night, game the next, and then another show following night. 

Also - THIS is the Leafs' year   

I recall, I was there N1 and thanks to the reschedule also N2.  That was when the Raptors were a playoff team but pre-Kawhi.  There won’t be any Raptors playoffs this year.  

I am a Leafs fan and I want to believe in the team but something isn’t right with them.  It’s kind of their energy I think.  When I watch a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit or Montreal, none of which have the same high end talent as the Leafs, those teams all seem hungrier and more into the games.  And those aren’t even the best teams in the division like Boston and Florida.  I think the suffering is going to continue and that includes me.  But hey, who needs hockey when there’s a PJ spring tour.  

With the Habs you don’t need talent, just passion that the leafs clearly lack! 😉

Yeah passion, a similar concept as energy.  Obviously you also need talent.  Not to mention a good goalie.  

I tried to tell u guys about Sammy

Of course we have a goalie I wouldn't mind seeing go elsewhere..u want Kuemper? Lol

They didn’t ask my opinion.  

Maybe they should have