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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,114
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s my production. Within the next 4 weeks they announce a new candidate with Kamala still VP.
    They’ll spend the next couple weeks deciding who it is and convincing Biden to drop out on his own and make it his decision. 
    You can't announce a new candidate.  Biden would have to drop out and then the delegates decide at the convention. 
    Yes, but it won’t be a surprise if that happens. If Biden drops out, it’ll happen before the convention. And im sure whoever the nominee will be will get leaked and endorsed ahead of time. They’re going to want as much campaign time as possible. It may not be official until the convention, but it wouldn’t be a surprise.
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    pjhawks said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s my production. Within the next 4 weeks they announce a new candidate with Kamala still VP.
    They’ll spend the next couple weeks deciding who it is and convincing Biden to drop out on his own and make it his decision. 
    The Dems fucked this up royally and may have destroyed the country in the process. No way Biden should have been more than a 1 term President. That should have been the stance since 2020 election.  Now they either stay with a guy who has no chance of lasting 4 more years or replacing him 4 months before the general election. What a disaster. 

    And who is the choice? Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg (my choice), Whitmer?   I also saw some mentions that their is a gray area in having a Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidate from the same state so if they choose Newsom they may have to replace Harris as well.  
    I could have sworn Biden said several times he was only running for one term back in 2020 to get rid of Trump. But I can’t find any video or articles of him saying that. So maybe I just assumed he wouldn’t be running again.
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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,585
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    Tonight's Debate

    Winner= Both ?(Depends on which side you prefer ?)

    Losers=American citizens?(Man, I HOPE not)
    I was wrong, were ALL losers.

    Biden is lost and Trump is a POS.

    In a lot of ways I don't even want to Vote this year. (But, I probably will)

    What a disaster and an embarasment last night's Debate was.

    How many people live in the Country? ONLY over 300 MIL and this is the best we can come up with?
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,127
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    cutz said:
    cutz said:
    Tonight's Debate

    Winner= Both ?(Depends on which side you prefer ?)

    Losers=American citizens?(Man, I HOPE not)
    I was wrong, were ALL losers.

    Biden is lost and Trump is a POS.

    In a lot of ways I don't even want to Vote this year. (But, I probably will)

    What a disaster and an embarasment last night's Debate was.

    How many people live in the Country? ONLY over 300 MIL and this is the best we can come up with?

    Yep, we've lost our way hugely.
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    lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 361
    Anyone wanna throw some real skin in the game and state they will leave the USA if Donald wins the election in November?  I’d imagine it’s Gotta be real tough having Orange man bad syndrome after last night.  I have heard Venezuela loves Americans….This place is about to get real interesting in coming months.  

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,127
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    Anyone wanna throw some real skin in the game and state they will leave the USA if Donald wins the election in November?  I’d imagine it’s Gotta be real tough having Orange man bad syndrome after last night.  I have heard Venezuela loves Americans….This place is about to get real interesting in coming months.  


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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,111
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    Anyone wanna throw some real skin in the game and state they will leave the USA if Donald wins the election in November?  I’d imagine it’s Gotta be real tough having Orange man bad syndrome after last night.  I have heard Venezuela loves Americans….This place is about to get real interesting in coming months.  

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,051
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    Anyone wanna throw some real skin in the game and state they will leave the USA if Donald wins the election in November?  I’d imagine it’s Gotta be real tough having Orange man bad syndrome after last night.  I have heard Venezuela loves Americans….This place is about to get real interesting in coming months.  

    UGH

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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,565
    mace1229 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s my production. Within the next 4 weeks they announce a new candidate with Kamala still VP.
    They’ll spend the next couple weeks deciding who it is and convincing Biden to drop out on his own and make it his decision. 
    The Dems fucked this up royally and may have destroyed the country in the process. No way Biden should have been more than a 1 term President. That should have been the stance since 2020 election.  Now they either stay with a guy who has no chance of lasting 4 more years or replacing him 4 months before the general election. What a disaster. 

    And who is the choice? Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg (my choice), Whitmer?   I also saw some mentions that their is a gray area in having a Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidate from the same state so if they choose Newsom they may have to replace Harris as well.  
    I could have sworn Biden said several times he was only running for one term back in 2020 to get rid of Trump. But I can’t find any video or articles of him saying that. So maybe I just assumed he wouldn’t be running again.
    Not explicitly but it was stuff like this. He had to ameliorate concerns about his age.....5 years ago.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/14/joe-biden-and-the-history-of-the-one-term-pledge-gimmick/
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,527
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    Anyone wanna throw some real skin in the game and state they will leave the USA if Donald wins the election in November?  I’d imagine it’s Gotta be real tough having Orange man bad syndrome after last night.  I have heard Venezuela loves Americans….This place is about to get real interesting in coming months.  

    How about if Biden wins will you be on the plane to Russia with dirt bag kid rock? 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,896
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Here’s my production. Within the next 4 weeks they announce a new candidate with Kamala still VP.
    They’ll spend the next couple weeks deciding who it is and convincing Biden to drop out on his own and make it his decision. 
    You can't announce a new candidate.  Biden would have to drop out and then the delegates decide at the convention. 
    Yes, but it won’t be a surprise if that happens. If Biden drops out, it’ll happen before the convention. And im sure whoever the nominee will be will get leaked and endorsed ahead of time. They’re going to want as much campaign time as possible. It may not be official until the convention, but it wouldn’t be a surprise.
    It would happen before the convention, I agree.  But it's not like the DNC can decide who the candidate is before teh convention.  You have to have the delegates and super delegates vote, and there are literally 4k delegates that will vote.  Now super delegates could come out and state their preference, but it's still a floor vote.  

    The way I would like to see this play out is Biden drop in the next two weeks, assuming polling shows the country has lost confidence in his ability.  Then you will have a handful of candidates throw their names in.  Let CNN and MSNBC do a few debates.  We'll see the polling but then it comes down to the floor vote.  There would like have to be several votes.  

    I hope it goes down like this, not just as a Democrat, but for the historical value of the race.  We ahve had primaries for a century, so a clean floor vote with no pledged delegates hasn't happened since early 20th century.  I think it would be great to watch! 
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    COUNT VOTES

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    mickeyrat said:

    Exactly. This highlights the media bias and fervor with how they report all these things “spell trouble for the democrats” while republican negatives are framed up as how they’re still able to maintain their appeal with voters. Trump’s in obvious mental decline, different type than Biden’s, made even worse because Trump’s starting point was at the same intellect as a 12 year old. 
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    east_ia_pj_faneast_ia_pj_fan Posts: 141
    Trump could've attacked Biden more during the debate but would've looked like a "bully".  I'm not sure if Trump needs to even agree to debate Biden again if Trump is up in the polls for the next debate.  I'd expect Trump's lead to only increase from here.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,127
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    Biden is not going to drop out of the race, so we can let that one rest.  And Trump has already proven himself to be a bully, as well as a host of other despicable things.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,022
    Trump could've attacked Biden more during the debate but would've looked like a "bully".  I'm not sure if Trump needs to even agree to debate Biden again if Trump is up in the polls for the next debate.  I'd expect Trump's lead to only increase from here.
    Trump will debate again if asked to. He has literally no resistance for a challenge, and because he's a narcissist, he will have seen himself as the winner of the debate (and all debates).
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,585
    benjs said:
    Trump could've attacked Biden more during the debate but would've looked like a "bully".  I'm not sure if Trump needs to even agree to debate Biden again if Trump is up in the polls for the next debate.  I'd expect Trump's lead to only increase from here.
    Trump will debate again if asked to. He has literally no resistance for a challenge, and because he's a narcissist, he will have seen himself as the winner of the debate (and all debates).

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    Donald Trump’s alleged ‘sexual proclivities’ graphically detailed in new Epstein documents

    The new papers contain ‘incendiary claims’ about the former president

    Mike Bedigan
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    Monday 08 January 2024 20:22 GMT
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    Graphic details about Donald Trump’s alleged “sexual proclivities” have emerged in the latest round of court documents containing details of late paedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s associates.

    The new documents contain “incendiary claims” about the former president, including accusations that he had sexual relations with “many girls”, made by one of Epstein’s alleged victims, Sarah Ransome.

    Mr Trump’s name has appeared a handful of times previously in the documents and, while not accusing him of wrongdoing, appears to illustrate the good relationship he had with the disgraced financier.

    In the newly unsealed documents, Ms Ransome testified that her unnamed friend “was one of the many girls that had sexual relations with Donald Trump” – including at Epstein’s New York townhouse.

    “She confided in me about her casual ‘friendship’ with Donald. Mr Trump definitely seemed to have a thing for her and she told me how he kept going on about how he liked her ‘pert nipples’,” she testified.

    She then described in graphic detail how Mr Trump allegedly caused pain to the victim’s nipples – and claimed she saw the resulting injury firsthand.

    “I also know she had sexual relations with Trump at Jeffery’s NY mansion on regular occasions as I once met Jen for coffee, just before she was going to meet Trump and Epstein together at his mansion,” she said.

    Other mention of Mr Trump in the documents so far has not accused him of any illegality but claims he and Epstein were on good terms
    Other mention of Mr Trump in the documents so far has not accused him of any illegality, but claims he and Epstein were on good terms (Getty Images)

    Monday’s unsealed extracts were included in a letter sent by attorneys representing Alan Dershowitz, seeking to undermine Ms Ransome’s credibility. Ms Ransome said that she had seen sex-tapes involving prominent figures including Prince Andrew and UK billionaire Richard Branson.

    Mr Trump was not alleged to have been involved in the sex tapes.

    In a New Yorker article released in 2019, Ms Ransome said that “she had invented the tapes to draw attention to Epstein’s behavior, and to make him believe that she had ‘evidence that would come out if he harmed me’”.

    She did not appear to address the validity of other claims from the emails in her comment to the outlet.

    Steven Cheung, spokesperson for Mr Trump, told The Independent: “These baseless accusations have been fully retracted because they are simply false and have no merit.”

    Other mention of Mr Trump in the documents so far has not accused him of any illegality, but claims he and Epstein were on good terms.

    In part of testimony from another victim Johanna Sjoberg, it was claimed Epstein once “called up” the former president and visited one of his casinos after his private plane was diverted to Atlantic City in New Jersey.

    Ms Sjoberg said that while travelling on the plane with the disgraced financier the pilots had said that they were unable to land in New York as planned.

    NBC coverage from 1992 shows Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein discussing women at Mar-a-Lago party

    “Jeffrey said, ‘Great, we’ll call up Trump and we’ll go to -- I don’t recall the name of the casino, but -- we’ll go to the casino’,” the testimony read. Elsewhere, Ms Sjoberg was asked if she ever gave Mr Trump a massage, to which she replied “no”.

    Several more mentions of Mr Trump were made in the documents released last Friday, when Mr Alessi testified he had driven Maxwell to the former president’s Mar-A-Lago home.

    Mr Alessi also said that Mr Trump would sometimes come round for dinner at Epstein’s home but ate with Mr Alessi in the kitchen. Mr Trump did not get massages at the Palm Beach house because he had “his own spa”, Mr Alessi said.

    A spokesperson for Mr Branson’s Virgin Group said: “We categorically reject all allegations made by Sarah Ransome. In 2016, Ms Ransome retracted her claims and then in 2019 after settling her claims with Epstein and Maxwell, she also admitted to The New Yorker that the “tapes” had been “invented”. The allegations are baseless and unfounded.

    “The actions of Jeffrey Epstein were abhorrent and we support the right to justice for the many victims impacted by his abuse.”

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    Project 2025's plans for the Intelligence Community (IC), in one sentence:

    Finally, future IC leadership must address the widely promoted “woke” culture that has spread throughout the federal government with identity politics and “social justice” advocacy replacing such traditional American values as patriotism, colorblindness, and even workplace competence.


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    Project 2025 is Obama FEMA Camps for liberals
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    pjl44 said:
    Project 2025 is Obama FEMA Camps for liberals

    what?
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    pjl44 said:
    Project 2025 is Obama FEMA Camps for liberals
    Guess you’re not familiar with 900+ pages of Heritage Foundation plans for your future? Nor can you produce one Obama administration document that lists, names, speaks to or mentions FEMA Camps. But keep living with your blinders on. Same-same, we get it.
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    @The Juggler can we please have the title changed as his felonies will clearly be voided by Trump v US.
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    @The Juggler can we please have the title changed as his felonies will clearly be voided by Trump v US.
    You think that falsifying business records for payments of hush money made before you were president is an official act of the president?
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    pjl44 said:
    Project 2025 is Obama FEMA Camps for liberals
    Guess you’re not familiar with 900+ pages of Heritage Foundation plans for your future? Nor can you produce one Obama administration document that lists, names, speaks to or mentions FEMA Camps. But keep living with your blinders on. Same-same, we get it.
    The president of the Heritage Foundation said on the imprisoned Steve Bannon's podcast the other day that "we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be."

    That's what you're voting for if you vote for Trump: a possibly bloody second American Revolution.
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    '06 NYC 05.05, Camden 05.27, Camden 05.28, DC 05.30, E. Rutherford 06.03
    '08 Camden 06.19, Camden 06.20, DC 06.22, NYC 06.24, NYC 06.25
    '09 Philly 10.27, Philly 10.28, Philly 10.30, Philly 10.31
    '10 Hartford 05.15, Newark 05.18, NYC 05.20, NYC 05.21
    '12 Philly 09.02
    '13 Philly 10.21, Philly 10.22
    '16 Philly 04.28, Philly 04.29
    '18 Boston 09.02
    '21 Asbury Park 09.18
    '22 Camden 09.14

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