The 2023 Tour Speculation Thread - Potential Dates/Cities, Logistics/Data & Wishlists **UPDATED**

PJNB

josevolution said:

PJNB said:

droptheleash9 said:

At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!

We should probably get the 2023 tour out of the way first before we start worrying about 2024 shouldn’t we?

The make believe in fairytale land of 23 🤣🤣🤣 please thank the lord I’ve stopped waiting on these guys years ago! My summer plans are set and it doesn’t include waiting on these old timers to want to play live music for their fan base 

Mine are too! September is wide open for me though. 

Kevinman

Just heard 2 fall shows at United Center…..from credible source.

logan5ive

Kevinman said:

Just heard 2 fall shows at United Center…..from credible source.

In September?

camhendy

Kevinman said:

Just heard 2 fall shows at United Center…..from credible source.

Amazing! There is officially a ton of smoke around this. Probably 5 different people have heard this from a number of sources. 

Kevinman

Source was in Cubs box office….no specific dates.

Doug87

Kevinman said:

Just heard 2 fall shows at United Center…..from credible source.

Here’s hoping!

JeBurkhardt

Kevinman said:

Just heard 2 fall shows at United Center…..from credible source.

Cool, hopefully we can get some more info to break loose. 

motleygunner

Kevinman said:

Just heard 2 fall shows at United Center…..from credible source.

So if I am understanding you correctly, they are definitely coming to Arizona this year. Awesome!

Kevinman

September 5th and either 6th or 7th?  Unnamed source.

Doug87

Kevinman said:

September 5th and either 6th or 7th?  Unnamed source.

Well that would line up awfully damn well with Noblesville for the 10th.

baldog27

September 5,6 & 7 is Still Summer.  Credible Calendar

PJNB

baldog27 said:

September 5,6 & 7 is Still Summer.  Credible Calendar

setlist41

Maybe Alpine Valley over labor day weekend a couple days before....hmmm

setlist41

Kevinman said:

Just heard 2 fall shows at United Center…..from credible source.

Hey man! Thanks for sharing this awesome news!

trees

Ok this could mean a Detroit, Indianapolis, Columbus Ohio. Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, hopefully thanks for the update 

JimmyV

What was the most likely list of never-announced 2020 leg 2 cities? I would start with those when hypothesizing. 

demetrios

Kevinman said:

September 5th and either 6th or 7th?  Unnamed source.

Excellent!

BLACK35

baldog27 said:

September 5,6 & 7 is Still Summer.  Credible Calendar

Oohhhh, if it's September 5th...I would have a birthday show 😁 Here is hoping, never been to Chicago 

BLACK35

BLACK35 said:

baldog27 said:

September 5,6 & 7 is Still Summer.  Credible Calendar

Oohhhh, if it's September 5th...I would have a birthday show 😁 Here is hoping, never been to Chicago 

And I'm turning the big 50...yikes!

Fastrichie

My wife told me 2 weeks ago she heard Pearl Jam in Chicago in September. I didn’t really believe her! How could she know before me!!! Maybe she was right hopefully!! 

Doug87

Fastrichie said:

My wife told me 2 weeks ago she heard Pearl Jam in Chicago in September. I didn’t really believe her! Maybe she was right hopefully!! 

There’s been talk about Northerly and the United Center for a little bit now.

Today was 1st day I saw specific dates for Chicago mentioned.

JojoRice

My 40th birthday is September 3. Fingers crossed for a birthday show!

camhendy

So if it maps something like Minneapolis --> Chicago --> Noblesville from the beginning of Sept to Sept 10 where do we think it could go from there? It seems like Mansfield is in play so you would think they go east. Detroit/Ohio/Pitt/Baltimore/Philly/NY/Hartford/Boston. It's taking shape a little which is exciting 

Foriginal Sin

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

RatherStarved

camhendy said:

So if it maps something like Minneapolis --> Chicago --> Noblesville from the beginning of Sept to Sept 10 where do we think it could go from there? It seems like Mansfield is in play so you would think they go east. Detroit/Ohio/Pitt/Baltimore/Philly/NY/Hartford/Boston. It's taking shape a little which is exciting 

I don’t exactly know how it makes sense if they are going west to east but I expect a Vegas show based on the dice post a few weeks ago.  

Go Animal

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

Played there last year. Maybe in 2024?

Foriginal Sin

Go Animal said:

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

Played there last year. Maybe in 2024?

By that rational they wouldn’t be heading anywhere near California 

Go Animal

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

Played there last year. Maybe in 2024?

By that rational they wouldn’t be heading anywhere near California 

I figure as much (with the exception of Ohana).

Go Animal

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

If they're trolling us, I'm gonna feel a little attacked😅

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