Please Let Us Bundle a Poster & Shirt with 10C Tickets

Get_Right

OceansJenny said:

We don’t need more people signing up for 10c and lowering our odds for tickets so they can also get merch to flip. 

Excellent point.

apirk72

The thing is nothing the band could do would make a difference because they fans are the flippers.  Everyone who buys multiples are the problem or things they don’t even want are the problem.  You move everything inside and it will be a complete mess because there won’t be enough room for the massive lines and a lot of people will miss part of the show because they are standing in line.

Get_Right

BSully said:

I think changing it up too much is too much to ask, just put all the merch inside for ticket holders only, then the next day open a merch tent for non-ticket holders to buy whatever is left.

Problem solved???

Maybe good for the fans, but the band would lose a ton of money.

AS9006

Correct my memory, but i recall at a pj show in the past thinking msg where they gave us wrist bands before the show and we picked up our poster after the show upon showing out wristband. How about this idea, one 10c tix gives u the option to pre order  tshirt, poster, pin, sticker etc. At some point in the night you show up to scan your wristband to pick up your items.  Helps pj know exactly how many items to print. Yes they still need items for walk up sales but they take care of the 10c fans.

It seems we are full of good ideas on this board..

demetrios

Kevinman said:

They’ve done it before(poster), and it was great.  If it’s(presale) for Fan Club only, I don’t think they lose any business as far as merch goes.  If anything they might have a better idea of how many posters to print.  I think last time they did it I had to commit to purchase blind, before seeing poster, and it was still worth it.  No poster to carry through the show.
Shirt/poster/ticket bundle would be awesome.

+1

tdawe

Tim Simmons said:

Chrrie said:

Dave Matthews Band sends an email the day of to everyone in the fan club who has tickets for that show to buy a poster, event shirt, or poster + shirt bundle that will be shipped a week later. They still have early outdoor merch and it’s still packed with people who want more than what’s offered online. It’s a great model, and one I wish PJ would consider. 

DMB literally built one of the largest concert merch companies in the world (Musictoday) they have the infrastructure to do that. PJ has a warehouse with a handful of employees. People get pissed when it takes a couple of weeks to get records shipped. The amount of conniption fits that would happen to send out posters/tees and stickers for a 20 date tour would be staggering. 

the current system may not be working for fans and that sucks, but it works for the 10c and the band and it doesn't seem to be harming demand for anything PJ.

Yeah, in my imaginary version of this plan, people would have to be okay with waiting a while - until well after the tour is over - to get their stufff. They’d still do the regular merch tables at all the shows, then fulfill the club orders from the excess + new runs to cover the difference. 

RK50065

jefft said:

demetrios said:

The problem TSURT had was short staff. Nobody wants to work these days. I do hope 10club management can fix that for next tour. Offer up show poster / shirt / sticker / button combos for those who have tickets to the show. 

They should fire tsurt.  Hire someone else who puts out quality stuff.

this is certainly a take. fire the guy who puts out stuff people wait 6 hours in line to buy and most things sell out?!

mpedone

demetrios said:

The problem TSURT had was short staff. Nobody wants to work these days. I do hope 10club management can fix that for next tour. Offer up show poster / shirt / sticker / button combos for those who have tickets to the show. 

Had I not gotten sick after Toronto, I was going to volunteer to help out in Nashville and St Louis. I figured I'd just be standing in line anyway, if I could help get people through quicker, why not? And, my partner would be in line to buy our poster and sticker. Sadly, I didn't get the chance.

CROJAM95

Get_Right said:

OceansJenny said:

We don’t need more people signing up for 10c and lowering our odds for tickets so they can also get merch to flip. 

Excellent point.

you really think merch will get people to sign up & not sign up just to get tix?

I think this is a reach, if you want tix....you sign up, despite merch...cmon now

drakeheuer14

RK50065 said:

jefft said:

demetrios said:

The problem TSURT had was short staff. Nobody wants to work these days. I do hope 10club management can fix that for next tour. Offer up show poster / shirt / sticker / button combos for those who have tickets to the show. 

They should fire tsurt.  Hire someone else who puts out quality stuff.

this is certainly a take. fire the guy who puts out stuff people wait 6 hours in line to buy and most things sell out?!

A lot of people want him out for varying reasons. 

Zod

They did allow to buy prebuy posters online for the 2009 tour (I bought one from the Calgary show).  It was great.  I didn't have to go to a Merch booth, or try to carry the thing around for a whole show.  I really liked it.

I read though, that it was a lot of work for the 10c to mail out that many posters, and that's why they stopped.   I get the feeling that in this case because ten club is kind of a mom and pop homegrown operation, they may not have the capacity to do such a thing.

I had moderate luck with indoor merch booths in oakland this year.  I got a poster and tour T on night 1, and a poster on night 2 without waiting in lines.   The only thing I missed out on was the show specific shirt.  I could of had night 1 but didn't think I would wear it, liked the night 2 one but they were sold out.

I think indoor merch booths take less time.  If you show up for doors, or shortly therafter, but before the masses show up, it's probably a lot less time than waiting at the outdoor booths.

Short version:  Yes, it would be amazing if they did this.  I don't think they will because it's a giant wad of logistical work and the 10c operation isn't that big.

False_Belief

On board with this.   Add a small premium to make up for any loss of incidental sales if you need to.  I’d pay an extra $20 or whatever if it guaranteed me a show poster and/or a shirt.   

Get_Right

CROJAM95 said:

Get_Right said:

OceansJenny said:

We don’t need more people signing up for 10c and lowering our odds for tickets so they can also get merch to flip. 

Excellent point.

you really think merch will get people to sign up & not sign up just to get tix?

I think this is a reach, if you want tix....you sign up, despite merch...cmon now

The comment mentioned both tix and merch. Flippers gonna flip.

myoung321

 Get_Right said:

The current model works for them.  Fixed amount of inventory probably makes it easier to manage and sell with less financial risk. With pre-orders the business model changes from sales to order fulfillment. 

unless it's a cancelled show, then we can do bundles.. 

Get_Right

myoung321 said:

 Get_Right said:

The current model works for them.  Fixed amount of inventory probably makes it easier to manage and sell with less financial risk. With pre-orders the business model changes from sales to order fulfillment. 

unless it's a canceled show, then we can do bundles.. 

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.   

myoung321

Get_Right said:

myoung321 said:

 Get_Right said:

The current model works for them.  Fixed amount of inventory probably makes it easier to manage and sell with less financial risk. With pre-orders the business model changes from sales to order fulfillment. 

unless it's a canceled show, then we can do bundles.. 

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.   

You either care that your fans are waiting in ridiculous lines, or you don't... 

Get_Right

myoung321 said:

Get_Right said:

myoung321 said:

 Get_Right said:

The current model works for them.  Fixed amount of inventory probably makes it easier to manage and sell with less financial risk. With pre-orders the business model changes from sales to order fulfillment. 

unless it's a canceled show, then we can do bundles.. 

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.   

You either care that your fans are waiting in ridiculous lines, or you don't... 

My guess is that they do not mind moving huge amounts of inventory before the doors even open. It has been going on for some time.  But who really knows? Information is not something this band is accustomed to sharing.

CROJAM95

Get_Right said:

CROJAM95 said:

Get_Right said:

OceansJenny said:

We don’t need more people signing up for 10c and lowering our odds for tickets so they can also get merch to flip. 

Excellent point.

you really think merch will get people to sign up & not sign up just to get tix?

I think this is a reach, if you want tix....you sign up, despite merch...cmon now

The comment mentioned both tix and merch. Flippers gonna flip.

There is still incentive, for $20/yr it’s a no brainer to have a 10c account regardless of bundling & THAT making it harder to get tix… I don’t SEE the   Numbers climbing cause of that 

Tim Simmons

The only reasonable solution is to make a bit more merch and have a second location at shows to shorten lines.

apirk72

Get_Right said:

myoung321 said:

Get_Right said:

myoung321 said:

 Get_Right said:

The current model works for them.  Fixed amount of inventory probably makes it easier to manage and sell with less financial risk. With pre-orders the business model changes from sales to order fulfillment. 

unless it's a canceled show, then we can do bundles.. 

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.   

You either care that your fans are waiting in ridiculous lines, or you don't... 

My guess is that they do not mind moving huge amounts of inventory before the doors even open. It has been going on for some time.  But who really knows? Information is not something this band is accustomed to sharing.

Why would they need to share that information?

I know it is easy to blame the band but lets be honest the biggest problem is the fans.  il people stop using Pearl Jam merch as some kind of currency the lines and sellouts aren't going to end.   You want merch lines etc to be more fan friendly?  Buy just one of the things you want, don't buy stuff to flip/trade, dont bring other people with you just to buy more stuff to flip/trade.