Please Let Us Bundle a Poster & Shirt with 10C Tickets

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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,891
    edited September 2022
    The only reasonable solution is to make a bit more merch and have a second location at shows to shorten lines.


    That & have more staff working / dealing / handling Pearl Jam merch at the venue. 
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,559
    If they’re short staffed, hire ten clubbers to do the work, get paid, grab a shirt and poster as well for your time and be done by show time. 
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  • Chrrie said:
    Dave Matthews Band sends an email the day of to everyone in the fan club who has tickets for that show to buy a poster, event shirt, or poster + shirt bundle that will be shipped a week later. They still have early outdoor merch and it’s still packed with people who want more than what’s offered online. It’s a great model, and one I wish PJ would consider. 
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  • Get_Right
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    apirk72 said:
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    myoung321 said:
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     Get_Right said:
    The current model works for them.  Fixed amount of inventory probably makes it easier to manage and sell with less financial risk. With pre-orders the business model changes from sales to order fulfillment. 
    unless it's a canceled show, then we can do bundles..  :s

    When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.  =) 
    You either care that your fans are waiting in ridiculous lines, or you don't... 

    My guess is that they do not mind moving huge amounts of inventory before the doors even open. It has been going on for some time.  But who really knows? Information is not something this band is accustomed to sharing.

    Why would they need to share that information?

    I know it is easy to blame the band but lets be honest the biggest problem is the fans.  il people stop using Pearl Jam merch as some kind of currency the lines and sellouts aren't going to end.   You want merch lines etc to be more fan friendly?  Buy just one of the things you want, don't buy stuff to flip/trade, dont bring other people with you just to buy more stuff to flip/trade.

    Not saying they need to, just saying transparency is not their hallmark. Yes the flippers are part of the problem, but there are also large numbers of legit fans that wait in these lines. I personally gave up on merch around 2008 and just recently liquidated my poster collection. 
  • apirk72
    apirk72 Posts: 506
    I think 96% of the people waiting in line are fans, the problem is the fans are also the flippers/people buying whatever they can to trade.  This is what is causing merch to sell out and lines being a mile long.  Pearl Jam is going to spend more money to sell the same amount of stuff, if people want to see things approve the fans are going to have to change how they view merch.  
  • Easier fix would be to limit the show/city specific stuff like posters, t-shirts, etc to 1 per person instead of 2.
    Potentially doubles the number of people who have opportunity to buy at show.
    Cuts down on the flippers' profit margins.  Way less motivating for flipper to wait in line multiple hours for early merch line if they're only going to net say ~$200 than ~$400 they would've gotten with double merch quantity purchase/eBay sale.
    Keeps secondary market prices down since better able to meet upfront demand of concert goers looking for merch for their show(s).
    Band/vendors still make their money.
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  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,410
    Please god keep tickets and merch separate.

    Flippers will put in for every show knowing they can sell the merch for a profit, even if they don’t even sell the tickets for profit. Fuck, FANS will put in for every show and flip the merch for profit. I can already see the bundle deals - “1 MSG ticket + show specific merch **RARE**”. No. Keep tickets with tickets and merch it’s own thing. Actually getting to go to the show is more important than securing merch.
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    kosteva2 said:
    Easier fix would be to limit the show/city specific stuff like posters, t-shirts, etc to 1 per person instead of 2.
    Potentially doubles the number of people who have opportunity to buy at show.
    Cuts down on the flippers' profit margins.  Way less motivating for flipper to wait in line multiple hours for early merch line if they're only going to net say ~$200 than ~$400 they would've gotten with double merch quantity purchase/eBay sale.
    Keeps secondary market prices down since better able to meet upfront demand of concert goers looking for merch for their show(s).
    Band/vendors still make their money.
    This would double the number of people at the front of the line as flippers bring a buddy to buy a second poster and buy them a beer for their trouble.

    People buying 2 posters instead of 1 is not leading to a massive amount of flippers. It's when the vendors allow people to buy 10 of an item.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,891
    If they’re short staffed, hire ten clubbers to do the work, get paid, grab a shirt and poster as well for your time and be done by show time. 

    I would totally volunteer for free if they asked for help. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,133
    Wrong. 10 club and Pearl Jam would be “losers” as well. The people lining up to buy posters are also buying thousands of dollars of secondary merchandise. I get it, it sucks but the lines are wonderful from a business stand point. The desired merch sells out and all kinds of other stuff is sold as well. Things are not gonna change. It’s a cash cow and the herd is literally lining up for it.

    Are you sure? There must be thousands of fans like me who take one look at the lines and say no freaking way. I’d never ever consider spending hours of time standing for merch, but I’d happily buy shirts and posters with the tickets.
  • There are so many common sense solutions to this poster/t shirt/sticker problem. #1 pre order it with your 10c tix and pick it up the day of the show at merch tent at your leisure.
    #2 pre order and mail out afterwards (yes very labor intensive, but charge a PREMIUM to reward the mom and pop warehouse workers to send the stuff out after the concert. #3 stop allowing people to buy 2 of everything at the show. It baffles me when i saw every single person buy 2 posters at the merch tent.
  • Although waiting 5 hrs in st.louis wasn't the greatest experience in the world, conversations with people in line definitely made it go by quicker. Something to be said for that. It's also nice the band posts show specific items of Twitter prior, I'd hate to show up way early and get stuck with a poster that's not my taste. That being said the fan base isn't getting any younger, ask my back or prostate 6-8 years - I may have a totally different opinion. 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,891

  • Posters should be sold as a presale option. They would know how many to produce. Production doesn't take very long. Then throw another hundred or so on the ten club site. 


  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    edited September 2022
    I wonder how prices would change if the employee count was doubled in order to lessen the wait by approximately half?

    The easy answer would be "double prices" but something tells me that's wrong.
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  • MG79478
    MG79478 Posts: 1,727
    smile6680 said:
    Posters should be sold as a presale option. They would know how many to produce. Production doesn't take very long. Then throw another hundred or so on the ten club site. 


    My thought exactly.  There is no need to bundle with anything else.
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    smile6680 said:
    Posters should be sold as a presale option. They would know how many to produce. Production doesn't take very long. Then throw another hundred or so on the ten club site. 


    Honestly, what would be the band's incentive to do this? Placating a portion of the Ten Club? Does that seem like something the business side of the band cares about?

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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963
    The Merch staff should throw some tip cups on the counter. If they started filling up they might actually start to move.
  • Maybe they should do the opposite of a BOGO deal.. kick up the price to dissuade people buying multiples. Buy one poster at $45 or 2 for $75 each  =)  
    I'm half-kidding

    I think the poster/ticket presale for 10C members is a solid idea. For a band that wants to keep tickets in the hands of fans and eliminate scalpers (for the most part); you'd think they would want to do the same for their merch. If they are even aware this frustration exists, that is. 
    I can't imagine they are getting a cut of any sales on Ebay, but who knows.