The 30+ song set lists done for good?

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Last night looked like another fantastic set. The band sounded awesome. We may not be getting 30 songs a night right now but they are playing their asses off and mixing each night up nicely. Lets see what Phoenix brings!
  • UKBgirl
    UKBgirl UK Posts: 99
    cutz said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I love a slow first encore. Bring out the stools let’s gooooo with some All or None.
    Agreed. People keep saying 5 or so covers a show have been cut, which while true, it’s also the first encore that’s been cut. I am a bigger fan of the slower and more mellow tunes, so I hope they find their way into the set list somehow.
    I think Comes Then Goes would be perfect to open encore 1.
    I think so too.  

    But, will Comes Then Goes be played at all?
    A big IF, but possibly Fresno or Sacramento would be the only ones I can see it coming out for as a tribute - I'd be shocked if there wasn't a 5 yr anniversary tribute to CC at at least one of them.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,559
    Damn folks complaining about only 23-25 set lists? I bet there’s folks from Raleigh and Baltimore that would take 23 song set list on a Saturday night with no problem! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,998
    JimmyV said:
    Don't know about for good or forever but apparently for now. If something has to go I'm glad it was the covers. 

    RIP the Evening with Pearl Jam era, 2013-2018
    Happy to have caught 14 shows during this run (not counting festivals or hall of fame) 
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Damn folks complaining about only 23-25 set lists? I bet there’s folks from Raleigh and Baltimore that would take 23 song set list on a Saturday night with no problem! 
    Last night sounds like it was awesome, too. 
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,559
    JimmyV said:
    Damn folks complaining about only 23-25 set lists? I bet there’s folks from Raleigh and Baltimore that would take 23 song set list on a Saturday night with no problem! 
    Last night sounds like it was awesome, too. 
    Yep from the reviews it sounds like it was a great show for the attending crowd! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    JimmyV said:
    2013 was among the best years in this band's history. 
    Yes it was
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,559
    It’s weird but 10 years ago I’d be totally bumming if I couldn’t score tickets to one of their shows! Even looking at set list these days I don’t feel like that anymore..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • merlin401
    merlin401 Posts: 230
    Maybe the longer sets will be saved for special occasions?  The band is getting older so cutting back was inevitable.  I’ll admit I would have been bummed out attending the early shows expecting two encores as standard but once you know the new normal than it is what it is.  Like I said,  maybe special shows go a bit longer or have a single 2nd encore song if they are feeling the energy.  I just hope what we expected as a default still exists as a treat 
    Jones Beach II (2000), Holmdel (2003), Camden I, East Rutherford II, Gorge I, Gorge II (2006), MSG I, Boston II (2008), Spectrum II, Spectrum III, Spectrum IV (2009), MSG I, MSG II (2010), Prague (2012), Philly I (2013), Philly I, Philly II, Fenway I (2016), Fenway I (2018), MSG (2022), MSG I, Fenway 1 (2024)
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    merlin401 said:
    Maybe the longer sets will be saved for special occasions?  The band is getting older so cutting back was inevitable.  I’ll admit I would have been bummed out attending the early shows expecting two encores as standard but once you know the new normal than it is what it is.  Like I said,  maybe special shows go a bit longer or have a single 2nd encore song if they are feeling the energy.  I just hope what we expected as a default still exists as a treat 
    Definitely.  There will still be special nights where 35 songs come out.

    I think there is going to be a shift towards the arena tours having shorter, more well known setlists going forward.  They will target local crowds during these arena tours.  Even this weekend, there was a noticeable change in crowd excitement when they played songs such as Even Flow, Alive, Daughter, etc.   They are quickly approaching "legacy" band status (I don't mean this in a bad way one bit).  I cant tell you how many friends/colleagues of mine have mentioned to me in the last couple of years "I really gotta see Pearl Jam and cross them off of the list, let me know when you go again"
     
    Destinations, ballparks, etc will still be candidates for the 35+ song nights, and these will be the shows you'll want to target for travel if you want to hear the rarities.  
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • YoullseeDragons
    YoullseeDragons Posts: 2,144
    Ed could also still be recovering from COVID physically. People I have spoken with folks that feel very tired several months after recovery. Pacing himself through the tour to get back into shape. 
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    My favorite PJ show ever out of all the ones I’ve been to was actually a “greatest hits” set.  

    Why?  
    Because it was probably the most on fire I’ve ever seen the band perform and the crowd was incredible.  It didn’t reach 3 hours.  Nobody in the building seemed to care that the Christmas single from 14 years ago wasn’t performed.   They were just locked in and everyone could tell.  








  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    My favorite PJ show ever out of all the ones I’ve been to was actually a “greatest hits” set.  

    Why?  
    Because it was probably the most on fire I’ve ever seen the band perform and the crowd was incredible.  It didn’t reach 3 hours.  Nobody in the building seemed to care that the Christmas single from 14 years ago wasn’t performed.   They were just locked in and everyone could tell.  








    Just curious about what show you are referring to.
  • merlin401
    merlin401 Posts: 230
    edited May 2022
    rummy said:
    My favorite PJ show ever out of all the ones I’ve been to was actually a “greatest hits” set.  

    Why?  
    Because it was probably the most on fire I’ve ever seen the band perform and the crowd was incredible.  It didn’t reach 3 hours.  Nobody in the building seemed to care that the Christmas single from 14 years ago wasn’t performed.   They were just locked in and everyone could tell.  








    Just curious about what show you are referring to.
    Not this poster but I know what he is feeling.  

    I’ve been to a lot of epic shows (closing down the spectrum 3 and 4, msg 2010, the Philly “ten show”, gorge in 2006, etc but the concert I literally had the most pure fun was Camden 2006.  It was just a pure rocking show, my area of the lawn was insane, I lost my voice which never happens (and I lost it before the first encore).  It was just insane.  Not to say I liked that show more than some of the “classics” but it was uniquely awesome in its own way.  

    Set:
    wasted reprise -> life’s wasted
    WWS
    DTE
    animal
    severed hand
    corduroy
    marker in the sand 
    GTF
    unenployable
    lukin
    not for you 
    daughter
    i am mine
    jeremy 
    present tense 
    why go
    porch
    ———————
    better man
    come back
    Small town
    last kiss 
    alive
    ———————
    SoLaT
    blood
    even flow
    comatose
    leash
    RitFW
    YL


    (The energy in that second encore was off the charts)
    Jones Beach II (2000), Holmdel (2003), Camden I, East Rutherford II, Gorge I, Gorge II (2006), MSG I, Boston II (2008), Spectrum II, Spectrum III, Spectrum IV (2009), MSG I, MSG II (2010), Prague (2012), Philly I (2013), Philly I, Philly II, Fenway I (2016), Fenway I (2018), MSG (2022), MSG I, Fenway 1 (2024)
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    edited May 2022
    Ed could also still be recovering from COVID physically. People I have spoken with folks that feel very tired several months after recovery. Pacing himself through the tour to get back into shape. 
    I'll come out and say it... Smoking for thirty years, getting covid, pushing sixty and Ed using his voice extensively doesn't sound like a recipe for thirty or more songs a night. :-/

    Hopefully I am wrong and am so appreciative for what the band has given to us and continues to give to us.
    Post edited by evenflow82 on
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    rummy said:
    My favorite PJ show ever out of all the ones I’ve been to was actually a “greatest hits” set.  

    Why?  
    Because it was probably the most on fire I’ve ever seen the band perform and the crowd was incredible.  It didn’t reach 3 hours.  Nobody in the building seemed to care that the Christmas single from 14 years ago wasn’t performed.   They were just locked in and everyone could tell.  








    Just curious about what show you are referring to.
    Spectrum 2003. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    Changing up the setlist is more important to me than number of songs with respect to seeing multiple shows a year.  So if it is the same 25 of 30 songs each night being played, I'll see a couple shows.  But if it the same 10 of 23 that are played each night then I'll see more.  
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Changing up the setlist is more important to me than number of songs with respect to seeing multiple shows a year.  So if it is the same 25 of 30 songs each night being played, I'll see a couple shows.  But if it the same 10 of 23 that are played each night then I'll see more.  
    That’s what it really comes down to for me as well and so far I am very impressed with the mixing up of sets. 
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    edited May 2022
    rummy said:
    My favorite PJ show ever out of all the ones I’ve been to was actually a “greatest hits” set.  

    Why?  
    Because it was probably the most on fire I’ve ever seen the band perform and the crowd was incredible.  It didn’t reach 3 hours.  Nobody in the building seemed to care that the Christmas single from 14 years ago wasn’t performed.   They were just locked in and everyone could tell.  








    Just curious about what show you are referring to.
    Spectrum 2003. 
    agree. will probably always be the loudest, most energized building I have ever been in.  place was on fire.  the closing of the spectrum is a close 2nd, but the first spectrum '03 was in a world of its own. 
    Post edited by rustneversleeps on
  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    I would say due to age,yes. The 30 plus songs are a thing of the past. It was fun while it lasted though.