The 30+ song set lists done for good?

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Jeremys Spoken
Jeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
edited May 2022 in The Porch
Judging by the last two concerts….it seems so sadly…
2008 - MSG 6/24-6/25
2010 - Newark 5/18 MSG 5/21
2011 - PJ20 9/3-9/4
2012 - MIA Festival 9/2
2013 - Wrigley Field 7/19 Brooklyn 10/18-10/19 Philly 10/22
2015 - Colbert show - 9/23 Global Citizens Festival 9/26
2016 - Philly 4/28-4/29 MSG 5/1-5/2



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  • adamg5
    adamg5 Posts: 803
    I didn’t even notice 23 songs, nor cared in SD.  They kicked ass.
  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    Just got back from LA, honestly I didn't know the set was a few songs shorter than past tours until seeing it via text list.  It still feels like the "full experience", for lack of a better term
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    Basically they took out the 5 cover songs and I’m good with that.  If I want to hear RITFW then I will go see Neil Young. 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • JABK
    JABK Finland Posts: 358
    D-Rod said:
    Basically they took out the 5 cover songs and I’m good with that.  If I want to hear RITFW then I will go see Neil Young. 
    I was just about to point this out...now they have more than enough great own songs.
  • iamloco724
    iamloco724 Brooklyn NY Posts: 1,441
    Even though I enjoy the covers I'm perfectly fine with that aspect, I just wish they'd add 5 originals in its place 
  • Robbert
    Robbert Rotterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 1,047
    Bring back the covers!!
  • fl247556
    fl247556 Posts: 327
    Yes jump to 25 songs minimum please 
    freddie vedder
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited May 2022
    Edit: I am probably coming off as complaining here and that is not my intention. Just want to discuss that this is a pretty big change from the last decade of this is the path they are taking. 
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  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    Yeah, I convinced multiple friends from other band communities to finally travel to see PJ this year after listening to me brag about their 30+ song sets for years. Now I look like an ass.  :D
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Don't know about for good or forever but apparently for now. If something has to go I'm glad it was the covers. 

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    aisleseats said:
    Yeah, I convinced multiple friends from other band communities to finally travel to see PJ this year after listening to me brag about their 30+ song sets for years. Now I look like an ass.  :D
    Lots of changes this year. Platinum tickets as well. Used to be able to say all tickets were face. There is a huge shift with this band whether people want to admit it or not. 

    This might be premature but it does sadden me if we no longer get the marathon shows anymore. I have been to a handful of shows that were 35 plus songs. This is a huge change from that and well worth a discussion on. 
  • mrmcqueen
    mrmcqueen Canada Posts: 23
    I noticed the same thing in San Diego, and then quickly checked the LA1 setlist to see if SD was an anomaly, while EV warmed up his voice for the long-awaited tour (despite just coming off a few solo shows); sadly, it wasn't. The Stones are 20 years older, and can get 17 hits out each night, which is interesting. If you go back to 2012, the Isle of Wight setlist was just 24 songs, for example, but the shows went to 30 songs in Berlin that summer (great shows, btw!) -- pre Lightning Bolt release.  That said, Isle of Wright was a festival, so a shorter list was to be expected.  Having played 306 different covers over the years, it seems crazy to think that they'd all be cut just because someone in the band doesn't want to play as long each night; it was an ominous sign when the start time suddenly moved back 25 minutes to 8:50pm. While blamed on traffic, 8:50 happened to also be the start time again in LA. The show length isn't likely a function of COVID protocols, as they're staying clear of fans at the rail, understandably. It can't be that we all were spoiled for far too long, can it? 

    2006: Toronto #1; 2009: Toronto; 2011: Toronto #1; 2012: Berlin x2; 2013: London,Pittsburgh, Buffalo, LA #2, Oakland, Vancouver; 2014: Milan, St.Louis, Detroit, Moline; 2015: Santiago,Buenos Aires, Porto Alegre, São Paulo, Mexico City; 2016: Miami, Raleigh, Columbia, Toronto x2, Fenway x2; 2018: Prague, Krakow, Barcelona, Chicago #1, Boston #2; 2022: San Diego, Oakland x2, Fresno, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Berlin, Zurich, Copenhagen, Amsterdam I, Amsterdam II, Quebec City, Hamilton, Toronto, New York City

  • 3days
    3days Posts: 1,200
    I honestly don't mind the shorter sets... After seeing some great Pearl Jam shows in 2016 (Lexington and Wrigley 2), I thought the shows were less tight in 2018 (Seattle and Wrigley). Not bad shows, just not as good as 2 years prior.

    Why? Age? Maybe, but I doubt it... I think sometimes the band has stretched itself too far: long sets, entertaining song requests, having special guests on stage, incorporating local geography into lyrics, etc. None of that is bad, and I respect them as artists, and performers, and decision makers. I just wonder if sometimes the extracurricular stuff and the elongated sets detract from the actual music.

  • BudT
    BudT Saratoga Springs, N.Y. Posts: 60
    Having an opener again will change things. 
    But the first two shows are generally not marathons. I think we aren't used to an Album tour anymore. The sets grow as they go. Shows have been few and far between for me lately(I've seen almost 50)  ----I haven't seen them in an arena in almost 10 years. Now they are back indoors where they play the best gigs and you'll see the sets grow up to 28/29 as the tour moves along. I think.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    BudT said:
    Having an opener again will change things. 
    But the first two shows are generally not marathons. I think we aren't used to an Album tour anymore. The sets grow as they go. Shows have been few and far between for me lately(I've seen almost 50)  ----I haven't seen them in an arena in almost 10 years. Now they are back indoors where they play the best gigs and you'll see the sets grow up to 28/29 as the tour moves along. I think.
    This is what I am hoping for.   But their tours are so damn short that there isn’t much time to ramp up.

    I had a feeling those beach shows were going to be indicative of this year’s tour and so I didn’t make a huge effort to make a bunch of shows work.  Figured I would wait and see. 
  • EW76468
    EW76468 Posts: 9
    The band hasn’t toured in 4 years and are only two sets into this tour. I think it is too early to make any generalizations about the tour or the band. So, relax. 

    If it is the end of marathon shows, then so be it. Things change, people change, we all get older. After all we’ve been through it’s just nice to have a PJ show to go to. If you don’t like it no one is forcing you to attend.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    EW76468 said:
    The band hasn’t toured in 4 years and are only two sets into this tour. I think it is too early to make any generalizations about the tour or the band. So, relax. 

    If it is the end of marathon shows, then so be it. Things change, people change, we all get older. After all we’ve been through it’s just nice to have a PJ show to go to. If you don’t like it no one is forcing you to attend.
    So don’t discuss it? This is a drastic change from how they have been playing. People are going to talk about how they feel about it. It’s ok not to be super pumped about 22 songs a night. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    The band came on stage 1hr and 20 minutes after Josh was done playing. What a wait that must be in the pit. They are not cutting much on the first two sets. They can play longer the opening band has nothing to do with this decision imo. 

    I do like that Ed comes out for a solo song each night so far. With Pearl Jam almost coming out 2hrs after that though it is a huge wait for people to hear one song so I am not sure it will do what I think they are intending it to do and get peoples butts in their seats for Josh. 
  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    I was concerned once it was no longer an evening with Pearl Jam. Had a feeling that with an opener it was possible that we would see shorter setlist, and so far that's been the case. I can see them adding a few songs as the tour moves forward but maybe not 30. 
    NYPJ
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    PJNB said:
    The band came on stage 1hr and 20 minutes after Josh was done playing. What a wait that must be in the pit. They are not cutting much on the first two sets. They can play longer the opening band has nothing to do with this decision imo. 

    I do like that Ed comes out for a solo song each night so far. With Pearl Jam almost coming out 2hrs after that though it is a huge wait for people to hear one song so I am not sure it will do what I think they are intending it to do and get peoples butts in their seats for Josh. 
    You don’t even make any sense. Where do you get 1 hour and 20 minute wait between josh and the band coming on stage?  People on this board complaining about only getting 2 hour sets and shorter shows is odd to me. One person on here said they were selling their tickets to Atleast 2 of their shows cause SD set list was only 24 songs. They bought tix for 5 shows but are scaling down, ooooh the horror. 

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