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How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.0
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The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
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I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.0 -
It's just a reality that it's extremely difficult to take someone's homeland. History has shown that time and again. It's even worse when you have no base of support in that land, and Russia's influence in the far east with teh separatists has been extinguished.static111 said:
Why would you cite US backed factions that lost? That doesn't inspire confidence for our picks.mrussel1 said:
Russia could simply stop the offensive now and withdraw. But Ukraine will not and should (nor should we agree to) promise to never join NATO. That is a total infringement on another country's sovereignty. I also do not think, for one moment, that the reason Putin invaded Ukraine was about NATO. It was about expanding the Russian Federation's territory and sphere of influence.myoung321 said:
Exactly....Yes both sides will give in any peace talks... First Ukraine will never get Crimea or the Eastern provinces back. Hell their government has been at war with the eastern provinces since 2014.. Those areas really haven't been part of Ukraine since the overthrow (Coup) of the government. Russia will give in the peace talks by stopping aggressive maneuvers further into Ukraine and will probably pull back to an agreed line.mrussel1 said:
Peace talks are great. Most think Ukraine is resigned to losing Crimea and far eastern oblasts that they lost in 2014. But that wasn't enough for Putin. War are you suggesting each side should give?myoung321 said:
I'd preferred we send people for peace talks... more weapons is only helping the weapons manufacturers, but not helping end the war... People need to come to terms, Ukraine cannot win this war...but we will flood them with weapons as long as they're useful for making money for the defense industry. When they aren't useful any longer we will turn our backs and walk away....PJ_Soul said:Poland is sending the Ukraine some fighter jets. It's about time somebody did! I hope more countries follow their lead.
I know I will get hate for that, but the truth is the truth.. The sooner peace talks begin the better for everyone involved..
Ukraine will also have to not become part of NATO... if none of this can be agreed upon then over time Russia will take all of Ukraine and the only thing we can do is start WW3 to stop them. i'm guessing most clear thinking people would not want that... so Ukraine would be sacrificed.
IMHO this peace would probably have already been agreed upon without the meddling and weapons from us..
If you think Russia will eventually win, I would point you to Vietnam, Afghanistan circa 1980 and Afghanistan circa 2005 as evidence why that is not a foregone conclusion.0 -
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I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.well to be fair, that was a previous disastrous 8 yr admin......and he/she should be angry for being lied to about wmd's..... havecwe found them yet?
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mrussel1 said:
I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
Bush was Iraq, initially. And was necessary following 9/11. Looking back, that was a terrible mistake imo and my heart hurts for all the families of the fallen.... However from 2008-2016, the administration did zero to get out. PLease answer the question, Did Trump enter ANY NEW wars during his term? yes or no. Its a simple question.
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Well, using your math logic, did POOTWH end any wars during his term? Yes or no?KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
Bush was Iraq, initially. And was necessary following 9/11. Looking back, that was a terrible mistake imo and my heart hurts for all the families of the fallen.... However from 2008-2016, the administration did zero to get out. PLease answer the question, Did Trump enter ANY NEW wars during his term? yes or no. It’s a simple question.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, using your math logic, did POOTWH end any wars during his term? Yes or no?KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
Bush was Iraq, initially. And was necessary following 9/11. Looking back, that was a terrible mistake imo and my heart hurts for all the families of the fallen.... However from 2008-2016, the administration did zero to get out. PLease answer the question, Did Trump enter ANY NEW wars during his term? yes or no. It’s a simple question.
sure he did. cut a deal, the best deal ever, with the Taliban. Got nothing in return.
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No, they were totally legit. I saw a guy trying to squeeze out the eyes of a cop. Are you saying that if I have footage of you committing a crime, and you counter with footage of you not committing a crime at other times, that negates the criminal footage? Because that's all Tucker did. Should I believe Tucker or my lying eyes? You chose Tucker.KP_McMinn said:
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I asked you first, please answer and then i will answer you...also, i am sorry, i am a dumb republican, can you pretty please spell out what POOTWH and POSPOTUS means?
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This tracks.KP_McMinn said:I asked you first, please answer and then i will answer you...also, i am sorry, i am a dumb republican, can you pretty please spell out what POOTWH and POSPOTUS means?0 -
No, Trump didn't. Did Biden enter any wars? Checking US military casualty count in Ukraine.. oh it's zero. Did any other president preside over the start of a pandemic while praising Xi? Which is worse, the Afghan and Iraq war (started under Bush), or the pandemic? That seems like an easy answer. Was Trump speaking for you when he wrote this tweet?KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
Bush was Iraq, initially. And was necessary following 9/11. Looking back, that was a terrible mistake imo and my heart hurts for all the families of the fallen.... However from 2008-2016, the administration did zero to get out. PLease answer the question, Did Trump enter ANY NEW wars during his term? yes or no. Its a simple question.
"China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American people, I want to thank President Xi!"
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mrussel1 said:
No, Trump didn't. Did Biden enter any wars? Checking US military casualty count in Ukraine.. oh it's zero. Did any other president preside over the start of a pandemic while praising Xi? Which is worse, the Afghan and Iraq war (started under Bush), or the pandemic? That seems like an easy answer. Was Trump speaking for you when he wrote this tweet?KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
Bush was Iraq, initially. And was necessary following 9/11. Looking back, that was a terrible mistake imo and my heart hurts for all the families of the fallen.... However from 2008-2016, the administration did zero to get out. PLease answer the question, Did Trump enter ANY NEW wars during his term? yes or no. Its a simple question.
"China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American people, I want to thank President Xi!"Merkin Baller said:
This tracks.KP_McMinn said:I asked you first, please answer and then i will answer you...also, i am sorry, i am a dumb republican, can you pretty please spell out what POOTWH and POSPOTUS means?
thanks guy....
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Did you thank Xi for his management of the virus. Don't fret, Trump thanked him for you.KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
No, Trump didn't. Did Biden enter any wars? Checking US military casualty count in Ukraine.. oh it's zero. Did any other president preside over the start of a pandemic while praising Xi? Which is worse, the Afghan and Iraq war (started under Bush), or the pandemic? That seems like an easy answer. Was Trump speaking for you when he wrote this tweet?KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
Bush was Iraq, initially. And was necessary following 9/11. Looking back, that was a terrible mistake imo and my heart hurts for all the families of the fallen.... However from 2008-2016, the administration did zero to get out. PLease answer the question, Did Trump enter ANY NEW wars during his term? yes or no. Its a simple question.
"China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American people, I want to thank President Xi!"Merkin Baller said:
This tracks.KP_McMinn said:I asked you first, please answer and then i will answer you...also, i am sorry, i am a dumb republican, can you pretty please spell out what POOTWH and POSPOTUS means?
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De nada.KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
No, Trump didn't. Did Biden enter any wars? Checking US military casualty count in Ukraine.. oh it's zero. Did any other president preside over the start of a pandemic while praising Xi? Which is worse, the Afghan and Iraq war (started under Bush), or the pandemic? That seems like an easy answer. Was Trump speaking for you when he wrote this tweet?KP_McMinn said:mrussel1 said:
I think you need to go back to Bush, buddy.KP_McMinn said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The truth about what? The number of US combat deaths in Afghanistan that occurred during POOTWH’s four year term? You know, the only POSPOTUS to not have a war?KP_McMinn said:How do you piss off a Conservative? Lie to them.How do you piss off a Liberal? Tell them the truth.
pretty sure those troops were already on the ground from the previous 8 year disastrous administration, no? Did Trump enter any NEW wars while in office? I'll wait.
Bush was Iraq, initially. And was necessary following 9/11. Looking back, that was a terrible mistake imo and my heart hurts for all the families of the fallen.... However from 2008-2016, the administration did zero to get out. PLease answer the question, Did Trump enter ANY NEW wars during his term? yes or no. Its a simple question.
"China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American people, I want to thank President Xi!"Merkin Baller said:
This tracks.KP_McMinn said:I asked you first, please answer and then i will answer you...also, i am sorry, i am a dumb republican, can you pretty please spell out what POOTWH and POSPOTUS means?
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Sorry, you'll have to scroll back through the thread or the closed thread. I've defined it. Second one should be obvious. Google is your friend.KP_McMinn said:I asked you first, please answer and then i will answer you...also, i am sorry, i am a dumb republican, can you pretty please spell out what POOTWH and POSPOTUS means?
Why do you hate "Murica?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, you'll have to scroll back through the thread or the closed thread. I've defined it. Second one should be obvious. Google is your friend.KP_McMinn said:I asked you first, please answer and then i will answer you...also, i am sorry, i am a dumb republican, can you pretty please spell out what POOTWH and POSPOTUS means?
Why do you hate "Murica?i actually did try to google those acronyms, unfortunately google doesn't speak stupid. I think i figured out the second one, piece of $hit pres of united states? very clever dude.Why do you think I hate, "Murica"? The only thing i hate about America is that this administration has decided to put its people LAST.What i really hate (strong word) is talking with people who have 0 interest in hearing an opinion that differs from theirs, and who still have TDS.0
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