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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
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  • Kat said:
    I can only hope this is as promising as it sounds.

    Scientists discover receptor that blocks COVID-19 infection
    by University of Sydney
    2.9.23

    https://phys.org/news/2023-02-scientists-receptor-blocks-covid-infection.html



    This is absolutely  amazing  and for fibrosis seems a game changer.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,308
    edited February 2023
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
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  • 23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    My niece had what we believe to be covid the end of December 2019.  Husband got it beginning of feb 2020 and I started on 2-12-20.  At that time we just kept saying wtf is this?  Couldn’t taste or smell, had the covid cough, all the symptoms.  It wasn’t till March that our pc said it was covid.  
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,059
    Kat said:
    I can only hope this is as promising as it sounds.

    Scientists discover receptor that blocks COVID-19 infection
    by University of Sydney
    2.9.23

    https://phys.org/news/2023-02-scientists-receptor-blocks-covid-infection.html


    Fingers crossed.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,308
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..

    no, I am fairly certain. but open to new information. as the science changes, undrstanding changes.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,308
    interesting info here. just in a 2 week time frame. jan 20 of 2020 to feb 4 of 2020....

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    If my memory is holding up, China gave Covid’s genetic code out to pharmaceuticals in January so they could make the vaccine. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    If my memory is holding up, China gave Covid’s genetic code out to pharmaceuticals in January so they could make the vaccine. 
    And it didn't even work.. not even on something no worse than a cold. 
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  • This thread has become like the Brandon Crime Family hearings.
    Lol 
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    Ok..early December, first cases..
    late February, they call it pandemic..not earlier, right??
    late January, Davos..he prepare us for the pandemic..
    something is wrong..
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    Meanwhile, mr Βurla continues to have a temper..

    https://rumble.com/v2946cy-136243762.html


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  • 23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    Ok..early December, first cases..
    late February, they call it pandemic..not earlier, right??
    late January, Davos..he prepare us for the pandemic..
    something is wrong..
    Who are “they?” The ones who “called” it a “pandemic?”

    Answer us that, Batman, and “maybe”
    we’ll take you seriously. Maybe.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    edited February 2023
    Joker..maybe if you are not ironic or sarcastic i will answer you..
    maybe..
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,596
    edited February 2023
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    Ok..early December, first cases..
    late February, they call it pandemic..not earlier, right??
    late January, Davos..he prepare us for the pandemic..
    something is wrong..
    Halifax is right… articulate your point if you want to be taken seriously. So far all you’ve brought to the table is vague and baseless suggestions and conspiracies. I can’t think of anything you’ve said that had substance behind it. 
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    Ok..early December, first cases..
    late February, they call it pandemic..not earlier, right??
    late January, Davos..he prepare us for the pandemic..
    something is wrong..
    Halifax is right… articulate your point if you want to be taken seriously. So far all you’ve brought to the table is vague and baseless suggestions and conspiracies. I can’t think of anything you’ve said that had substance behind it. 
    I don't mind, i don't care, take what you want..
    when you learn to discuss, come back for explenations with your friend..
    enough..
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    Ok..early December, first cases..
    late February, they call it pandemic..not earlier, right??
    late January, Davos..he prepare us for the pandemic..
    something is wrong..
    Halifax is right… articulate your point if you want to be taken seriously. So far all you’ve brought to the table is vague and baseless suggestions and conspiracies. I can’t think of anything you’ve said that had substance behind it. 
    I don't mind, i don't care, take what you want..
    when you learn to discuss, come back for explenations with your friend..
    enough..
    So no details then?  Just vague accusations that don’t withstand one level of critical thinking..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    I have taste enough critical thinking here..don't know how much i can stand..
    enough..
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,308
    so just when after davos did he make that statement to folks in his company?

    again, I think very easy to make an educated guess it would rise to pandemic. first known cases reported in Dec out of Wuhan thanks to that Dr who sounded the alarm before dying himself.Unknown then how many cases in China and still unknown today.  Disease then pops up at various places across the planet in mis January, doubling in case count quickly.  Data sets show this in that wiki article I posted before. Which you chose to ingnore.

    wealth of worldwide info about covid here. no parsing of data. no spin. no agenda. just hard numbers....

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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    mickeyrat said:
    so just when after davos did he make that statement to folks in his company?

    again, I think very easy to make an educated guess it would rise to pandemic. first known cases reported in Dec out of Wuhan thanks to that Dr who sounded the alarm before dying himself.Unknown then how many cases in China and still unknown today.  Disease then pops up at various places across the planet in mis January, doubling in case count quickly.  Data sets show this in that wiki article I posted before. Which you chose to ingnore.

    wealth of worldwide info about covid here. no parsing of data. no spin. no agenda. just hard numbers....

    From your link..
    • On January 31, the first 2 novel coronavirus cases in the UK, [18] the first 2 cases in Russia, [20] and the first case in Sweden and in Spain were reported. Canada reported its 4th case.

    • December ???
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    23scidoo said:
    I have taste enough critical thinking here..don't know how much i can stand..
    enough..
    When critical thinking frustrates you, rather than vindicates you, you’ve chosen the wrong side. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,308
    edited February 2023
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    so just when after davos did he make that statement to folks in his company?

    again, I think very easy to make an educated guess it would rise to pandemic. first known cases reported in Dec out of Wuhan thanks to that Dr who sounded the alarm before dying himself.Unknown then how many cases in China and still unknown today.  Disease then pops up at various places across the planet in mis January, doubling in case count quickly.  Data sets show this in that wiki article I posted before. Which you chose to ingnore.

    wealth of worldwide info about covid here. no parsing of data. no spin. no agenda. just hard numbers....

    From your link..
    • On January 31, the first 2 novel coronavirus cases in the UK, [18] the first 2 cases in Russia, [20] and the first case in Sweden and in Spain were reported. Canada reported its 4th case.

    • December ???
    from March 13 2020 article......

    First Covid-19 case happened in November, China government records show - report

    This article is more than 2 years old

    Earliest case detected on 17 November, weeks before authorities acknowledged new virus, says Chinese media

    A medical worker disinfects a ward in Wuhan union hospital China Cases emerged in November Chinese government data reportedly sugests
    A medical worker disinfects a ward in Wuhan union hospital, China. Cases emerged in November, Chinese government data reportedly sugests. Photograph: Li Ke/EPA
    Helen Davidson in Hong Kong
    Fri 13 Mar 2020 02.39 EDTLast modified on Wed 1 Jul 2020 13.15 EDT



    The first case of someone suffering from Covid-19 can be traced back to 17 November, according to media reports on unpublished Chinese government data.

    The report, in the South China Morning Post, said Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus.

    The Chinese government was widely criticised over attempts to cover up the outbreak in the early weeks, including crackdowns on doctors who tried to warn colleagues about a new Sars-like virus which was emerging in the city of Wuhan in Hubei province.

    The data obtained by the Post, which the Guardian has not been able to verify, said a 55-year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to contract Covid-19. For about one month after that date there were one to five new cases reported each day, the report said, and by 20 December there were 60 confirmed cases.

    "The virus, which is now a pandemic, has infected at least 128,343 people across the world and killed 4,702. Of those who have contracted the virus since it began, 68,324 people have recovered.

    Almost 81,000 of the cases occurred in China, mostly in the province of Hubei."


    So from the earliest reporting of cases around the world in mid Jan to March 13 an estimated 47,000 cases outside of China in 2 months.


    from Miriam Webster Dictionary....


    pandemic

    1 of 2

    adjective

    pan·​dem·​ic pan-ˈde-mik 
    1
    : occurring over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affecting a significant proportion of the population pandemic malaria
    The 1918 flu was pandemic and claimed millions of lives.
    2
    : characterized by very widespread growth or extent : epidemic entry 1 sense 3 a problem of pandemic proportions

    pandemic

    2 of 2

    noun

    plural pandemics
    1
    : an outbreak of a disease that occurs over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affects a significant proportion of the population : a pandemic outbreak of a disease a global pandemic
    Influenza pandemics seem to strike every few decades and to kill by the million—at least 1m in 1968; perhaps 100m in the "Spanish" flu of 1918-19.—
    The Economist
    2
    : an outbreak or product of sudden rapid spread, growth, or development : epidemic entry 2 sense 2 We have been talking about the pandemic of racism for centuries.—
    Roger Griffith Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller warns a pandemic of fear could tip the economy into an undeserved depression.—Stephanie Landsman






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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,322
    mickeyrat said:
    so just when after davos did he make that statement to folks in his company?

    again, I think very easy to make an educated guess it would rise to pandemic. first known cases reported in Dec out of Wuhan thanks to that Dr who sounded the alarm before dying himself.Unknown then how many cases in China and still unknown today.  Disease then pops up at various places across the planet in mis January, doubling in case count quickly.  Data sets show this in that wiki article I posted before. Which you chose to ingnore.

    wealth of worldwide info about covid here. no parsing of data. no spin. no agenda. just hard numbers....

    Αnd the pandemic was declared on March 11..couple of months after the prediction..

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,308
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    so just when after davos did he make that statement to folks in his company?

    again, I think very easy to make an educated guess it would rise to pandemic. first known cases reported in Dec out of Wuhan thanks to that Dr who sounded the alarm before dying himself.Unknown then how many cases in China and still unknown today.  Disease then pops up at various places across the planet in mis January, doubling in case count quickly.  Data sets show this in that wiki article I posted before. Which you chose to ingnore.

    wealth of worldwide info about covid here. no parsing of data. no spin. no agenda. just hard numbers....

    Αnd the pandemic was declared on March 11..couple of months after the prediction..


    again, in 2022 a statement was made at Davos referencing Davos 2020. This statement did not make a declarative staement of when after Davos 2020 he told his colleagues to scale up to 1 billion doses. Only that after Davos 2020 he said this.

    So what date was that statement made to his colleagues? On his return from the conference, which you seem to infer. Or in Feb or in March or in April. Just exactly when did he tell his colleagues that?
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    Joker..maybe if you are not ironic or sarcastic i will answer you..
    maybe..
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    23scidoo said:
    Joker..maybe if you are not ironic or sarcastic i will answer you..
    maybe..
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,308
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    so just when after davos did he make that statement to folks in his company?

    again, I think very easy to make an educated guess it would rise to pandemic. first known cases reported in Dec out of Wuhan thanks to that Dr who sounded the alarm before dying himself.Unknown then how many cases in China and still unknown today.  Disease then pops up at various places across the planet in mis January, doubling in case count quickly.  Data sets show this in that wiki article I posted before. Which you chose to ingnore.

    wealth of worldwide info about covid here. no parsing of data. no spin. no agenda. just hard numbers....

    Αnd the pandemic was declared on March 11..couple of months after the prediction..


    again, in 2022 a statement was made at Davos referencing Davos 2020. This statement did not make a declarative staement of when after Davos 2020 he told his colleagues to scale up to 1 billion doses. Only that after Davos 2020 he said this.

    So what date was that statement made to his colleagues? On his return from the conference, which you seem to infer. Or in Feb or in March or in April. Just exactly when did he tell his colleagues that?

    and it was the official declaration of pandemic in march, that doesnt mean it started at that date and hour. it was already in progress.....
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